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Detaching with...well, with fear
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I am grateful for the other posts on detachment. At a meeting last night someone pointed out that I was not detaching in love. I left home and my AH about 2 months ago. He just got out of Rehab yesterday after about 20days. He seems committed and I am proud of his progress. But I am coming to realize over and o...
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This might be crazy but I believe
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Hi All It's been such a busy week. Absolutely crazy at work but I got the job done and feel good about it. I'm thinking next week will just the same so I will be up to the challenge. Haven't had much time to think about my son and how he might be doing but a little while ago I started thinking about him. Is he...
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Cathyinaz
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Update many little things
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STBAX is out of the psych ward and I am concerned at this point. There are a lot of little things that have come into play, what my part is and isn't .. well I'm not creating a crisis however I'm not being passive either. The charges are there and he's going to have to deal with them. I have given all inform...
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Pushka
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getting rid of anger
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I'm just new on here today, and have a lot to say.... SORRY everybody, I haven't had anybody to talk to, and also reading a lot of your posts, a few thoughts have been sparked. One thing I really need to do, is stop being mad and bitter. I have gotten to the place that I will seldom even look at my AH, I talk as l...
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why the big change!!!!!
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ok i am very confused again ,last week the police were at my house because of the screaming my ah sober did.lost his temper thank god i was not here i was at a meeting when the police called me. . this current week a big change for me. good and wondering whats behind the good. past 2 days my husband has been q...
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Ms co-dependent
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When will I feel ok in my own skin again?
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Why does my rational brain get jumbled up my boyfriend's irrational ranting? Why do I get sucked in by his lies? When will I stop 2nd guessing myself when he tries to manipulate me? I guess after years of this kind of emotional abuse I cannot trust my own judgment. When I do not engage with him about hi...
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sad_dog_mommy
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New here Lost and Confused.
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I don't feel like a normal person anymore. I am consumed with monitoring my AH and I can't stop. I want him to leave but the thought of him leaving causes me panic attacks. We have been together 15 years. At times he has been violent, verbally abusive and he has had times of sobriety and than the lyi...
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Angry
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My son offered to help my mom with jobs around the house. He'd been clean about a week. After helping her he forgot to put the ladder back in the garage. I had moved the ladder and out of site out of mind. My mom offered to pay him. He said he didn't want money, he just wanted to help her. Later when she realized...
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Anxiety about my son
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My son has stayed sober and is attending AA meetings as far as I know. I spoke with him today and he's really depressed as he hasn't been able to find a job and he's broke. I have been helping him with his rent and food. I know he doesn't really want to take my money but under the circumstances he needs the hel...
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Don't Should on me - continued
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What a great post...(thanks BreakingFree), and thought I would continue on with the discussion on a new thread.... When I first joined Al-Anon, I was quite full of myself.... Yes, I was desperate, due to the situation in my home, but I also was arrogant enough to believe that I knew what others needed t...
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canadianguy
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Detaching with vengeance? Oops.
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I thought my "detachment" was working pretty well for a while there while AB was reacting to it and trying to get my attention. And then, he managed to push my buttons, I got angry and upset and suddenly- he's a calm and happy AB, aloof and rude and quite smug, accusing me of things like "h...
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Melly1248
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Lost all hope
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If it were not for hp, our creator, and my son I would not be here. I really put myself out there, gave my all. Learned to believe in someone, trust, depend. He was great, still is. Never, ever thought this would happen, neither did he. He has to raise his grandkids. Parents are not coming back. Plus his own...
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Debilyn
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struggling but there is hope
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I can actually see the other side w/o projecting too much. I am not making a lot of sense sometimes but I do know where I am coming from. I actually have a little serenity. I only hope that I can continue to go to meetings & find that there but also find some on my own. My mom is not getting better fast enoug...
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Hoot Nanny
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The Long Arm of the Law Got Him Under Control for Now
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Just wanted to give a quick update of things since the AH went to court for his reckless driving charge. His last hospital stay for detox was in early June and although he had kept up with his AA meetings and therapy/outpatient group meetings he was starting to slip again although he was not too out of con...
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wornoutmrsfixit
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Am I manipulating?
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Or wait, was I manipulating? I'm not sure now. As I've said many times blah blah blah.. I am pretty new to this all. (the support detach part, not the AH) So I''m sorta trying to figure out how this all works. When my AH is drinking, I am very cool, aloof to him but not rude. I just pull away from any attention...
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hisimage
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Paula? Breathing Underwater?
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I bought the book Breathing Under water for my Kindle. I am almost finished with it But one part surprised me....sort of disappointed me. I'd love your take on it since you did an online course on it. In the chapter on step 11- "no wonder we largely descended into mere civil religion and cultural Ca...
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afglin
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Don't should on me!
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Advice giving can be so hurtful when you think you know the answers for someone else's life and problems. We all come to al-anon in some sort of disarray, because our lives have become unmanageable. I came in on my knees, such a hot mess that I was miserable and did not know which way was up. I was sick and n...
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Breakingfree
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Looking for some ESH regarding my AH's friend in recovery
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My AH's former "partner in crime" for the last 18 months has been in recovery for a grand total of about 4 weeks. He has reached out to me a few times in recent days to (a) express compassion for me and my situation and regret for his past actions, and (b) ask for my "permission" to ha...
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stephaniej
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My wedding and my mother - al-anon style
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I'm getting married in March. We're doing it in Disney World. Mom hates to travel. She originally said she was okay with going anywhere we wanted; it's our family and choice. Last night, it changed - she didn't think she could come because of complications with her job and am I suuuure about Disney worl...
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AWomanCalledQuest
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To the Mothers
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And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said, Speak to us of Children. And he said: Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your l...
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Bettina
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Detaching with control vs. detaching with love
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It has come to my attention that I may be detaching with control rather than detaching with love. I feel like this is the best I can do for now. And I am trying to be kind and forgive myself for that. It is very hard to feel love when there are so many negative experiences and resentments in my mind. When I try...
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gingerfizz
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reclaiming my brain
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So, for the last few days I have not had the chatter in my head that says stuff like OMG where is she, who is she with, is she lying, is she drinking, is she gambling, is she by any chance telling the truth????? It is from all the help I'm getting from you guys, from my sponsor, from my F2F, from my reading, etc...
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Lyne
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My AH is getting out of rehab today...
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My AH is getting out of Rehab today after about 20 days. He has participated wholeheartedly in groups, has participated in the outside AA meetings, and found a sponsor, he told me today that he is going to try to put as many obstacles between him and alcohol as he can. I moved out about 2 months ago...so he...
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sadsusie
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How far before bottom ..
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Don't know and if he hasn't hit yet .. I don't know that he will or how much further it will be. At this point he's been involuntarily admitted to the psych ward and I was informed this by the cities finest confirmed by the hospital. This was all a God thing in terms of information .. I mean I'm in shock stil...
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Pushka
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SCRIPTS?
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I've recently had computer problems and I am about to have an IRC do-over... how do I get the Al-anon scripts again?
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Desirae
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Feeling Stuck
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I found out my husband was an alcoholic while I was pregnant and now we have an 8 month old son. My husband put himself through detox and has gone back and forth from sobriety to drinking since then. In March he put himself in the hospital and his liver isn't doing too well. Since his last breakdown he has ag...
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lvcluny
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Lucky number 19...
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August 20th!! Okay I know about it and don't remember it like she does until I get to the breakfast table and see the card and package. Then I have to go into self acceptance of the man who doesn't have as close a connection with his "female side" as maybe it's thought that I should. What th...
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Jerry F
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Let's Celebrate Our Growth and Victories
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I had a phone conversation last night with my AH, who is working 900 miles away. I made some very brief, neutral, non-inflammatory statements that related back to a horrible, awful fight we had on the phone the night before. I was very proud of myself for the way I stated my boundaries (I do not always a...
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stephaniej
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a better understanding
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For starters I would like to say that I have been in alanon for 5 months not 2. I have been going to three meetings a week and the rest of my week is on here. I love getting on here and reading posts and finding new websites on alanon. I have done a lot of reading on this. I am praying more and talking to the lord mo...
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Tiff5484
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Sneaky catharsis?
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Well, as I've shared, I've been keeping pretty cool, calm and collected for a while now. Detatched and even at times amused by my AB's relentless logic-twisting, blame and sometimes out and out harassment. I posted the other day about something ridiculous he had said- and in one of the replies Betti...
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Melly1248
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I dont want to go home.
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I have sort of been a lurker on this message board. I have attended 4 Al-Anon meetings; read the pamphlets, bought 'courage to change' and I have started journaling again but I am too new to this way of thinking to be strong enough to deal with this on my own. I am too ashamed to tell my friends and family...
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sad_dog_mommy
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Talking to the opposite sex
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Hi Everyone,My name is slogan_jim and I am a grateful member of al-anon.I have an issue that I feel may be rooted in my fathers alcoholism. Growing up in an alcoholic home I was very ashamed. I was very embarrassed by my family, my upbringing and my father. This affected many areas of my social life inclu...
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slogan_jim
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Article I read (link)
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http://www.happinessinthisworld.com/2009/05/10/your-neighbor-is-an-alcoholic/#.UhV08ZLVCO8
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slogan_jim
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long timer here
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I went back and looked at all my old "start topics" yesterday. Most depressing to say the least... well at first it was. Then I realized. As i remember my emotional state behind my every post. from being a "first timer" to the middle to now. I realize that I am better, Though my AH b...
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sweeetr
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Alanon CEO coming down under...
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I am getting more confidence- legs, but not wings, in Alanon. Working out what we can talk about, and what we should not. This came from my family, of course. And in Alanon I am slowly learning a new healthy set of boundaries, with a whole bunch of other learners. Rick B. the CEO of Alanon Inc. is coming...
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DavidG
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Missing AH
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So, I finally got up the courage to stand up to my AH and ask him to leave; he wouldn't and I had to go to court to have him vacate the property legally. It was the hardest thing I've ever done. I'll never forget the look on his face. I know I had to do it for me, my kids and my AH. I did try to detach first (we'v...
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LeeMarie
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talking on the phone w/ MOM
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The latest is that I have been talking on the phone w/ my mom while she is in the hospital. It is very difficult as I knew it would be. I have an interesting instinct when it comes to her. I know that waiting awhile last Monday was the best good idea I had. I needed to re-group & take care of me today. My days...
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Hoot Nanny
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Future MIL is an addict
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Hi, I've been with my boyfriend for 4 years and have been talking a lot about marriage recently. Although I am very excited about our future together, I'm very concerned about his mother, her addictions, and her affect on our relationship. She drank throughout my boyfriend's first 20 years of life...
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brendastarr
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Joy
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I am inexplicably feeling complete and utter joy and gratitude today, and expectations of good things to come in my life. Appreciating the sunshine, my job, my dogs, my life, my career. It is an amazing gift from Al-Anon. Yes, I am still with my dry AH. He is seeing the change in me. HE is coming to ME...
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gingerfizz
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post convention
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Hi All, I shared on top table at the shared meeting at the weekend with my partner present. I am normally quite confident when I share in Al anon but I think because he was there it was different. I shared how alcoholism had impoacted my life and got emotional at one point. then went on to how al anon is he...
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Tracy
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Acceptance is the answer to all my problems
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I had a good chat with a member here on the board. What I came to realize is that even though I've been reading and now posting here for a while - I've never introduced myself. So Hi - I'm Natasha - I'm an alcoholic, adult child of an alcoholic, alanoner, and CODA 12 step worker. But here I will try to be ju...
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Tasha
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UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
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I thought about it and I am sure I love my children unconditionally. Although I find it hard to love anyone else unconditionally....even my family sometimes... I am not sure if there is a universal understanding of this type of love.....what do you think. "Unconditional" sounds pretty s...
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oldergal
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Talk to myself?
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John
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Counting down days till school starts...this momma needs some relaxation
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Am I the only one who is looking forward to their kids going back to school? I have been trying to work my program this summer but it has been SO hard to gain peace with having 2 boys at home all the time. One of my sons is special needs and demands attention all the time and I constantly have to keep an eye on hi...
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daisy31
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Boy meets Boy...
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Aloha Family...just got in from business part of which was (secretly) nurturing the child still within. There's not much child there because of the program and so I used a proxy and didn't tell him. There was this little guy in my garden this morning by himself, nice and quiet and still being a par...
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Jerry F
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boy meets girl...
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Boy meets girl on AA campus is a analogy in the AA Big Book, which points out that rarely does early recovery love relationships work out... here is why, I call it my version of Step 13. Boy; "She looked at me from across the hallway before the meetings started, I think she wants my body!" Friend; "have you...
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John
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Need to practice awareness right now.
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Hi Everyone,My name is slogan_jim and I am a grateful member of al-anon.I am in a point in my life where I need to practice much awareness of my thoughts and behaviours, because I feel that both are related.Since my fathers second dui, I have been carrying around a lot of anger, resentment and bitteness...
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slogan_jim
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This is just in fun, if i offend anyone I am truly sorry
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...... I tend to have to laugh at my life at times ..almost thinking I am my HP's comedy show, or sitcom having said that first, I heard a song called "I dont like 1/2 the folks I love" when I heard that song...the lyrics are so true in my life ..I wrote a few just becasue i connect with them and want...
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sweeetr
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myself ..slipping
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I feel it in my soul... I do good (real good) with me .. then lately ??? I feel the old "junk" about why?? and trying to understand why his choices are what they are .. I know his choices are his.. I know to worry about my own business... I KNOW all this .. I try not to think our family is second t...
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sweeetr
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where do I begin? need some support.
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I hope this makes sense. I am dealing w/ a lot of anxiety & confusion right now. I have been to see my mom. I saw her on Sat. She seems better but is still way out there. I am very nervous about her condition. I have to keep living one day at a time today. I want to project on to the future as I am nervous again a...
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Hoot Nanny
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Looking for Support
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I am planning on leaving my ABF and moving far away by the end of the year. Right now we are living in Mexico but because I have to move back to the US and become financially independent I have to save up some money. I've tried to break up with him twice before and somehow I just get sucked in. I'm tired of de...
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Jenn86
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Trying to force solutions...
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Hello dear MIP brothers and sisters...it's been so long since I've had a chance to visit or write. I've missed you. XAH and I have not had any communication since the beginning of July, when we were working out some of the details of the divorce decree. I am relieved that the only thing left is to take the q...
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blondie99
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the princess who kissed the frog and became a frog herself....
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the fear that things will never change. even though I'm aware of many of my mistakes and faults, and even though I've worked through the steps again and again, and even though I have had good days full of hope lately, I'm back at point 0, and sometimes deeper. I feel exhausted again, trying to keep mysel...
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tortuga
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dunno if this will help you all, but it is helping me
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one topic my AA partner and I discussed is BALANCE...... today I wrote down...a "typical" day for me and lately, writing down how long I am taking to do such and such I then made a list, negotiable , of course if something special arises, but a basic list of *reasonable* time I need to spend on...
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neshema2
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Mini Vacation
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Hi All I'm back to work and I DON"T want to be here. After 5 days off and I want to retire...hehe I wish! I cleaned my house, did some yard work, started to put up my new lighting outside, went gambling, had my toes and nails done, went shopping and was lazy. Was able to spend some quality time with...
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Cathyinaz
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Trying to hang in there after breaking up
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I have not been on here in awhile. I posted last that I had broken up with my boyfriend a month ago, and only saw him 2x for aa meetings to accompany him. Two weeks ago he got black out drunk at a girl's apartment we have had major trust issues with in the past, and he actually scared her in his blackout and then...
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I feel like a fraud
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I'd like to know what you ladies & gents think about my being here, and my situation. I feel like a fraud (again, like I did 15 years ago with my first try at Al-Anon). I absolutely love this board. It has been a life- and sanity-saver for me. I learned codependent behavior from my Mother in my childhoo...
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ClearTheFog
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Light at the end of the tunnel
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Hey everyone, I mentioned the other day that my dad got his second dui and I was in a place of fear and loneliness. I saw my dad today and he was in a good place. So was I. He seems to be taking responsibility for his actions. He apologized to me and my sister and re-iterated he is going to sell his car and start t...
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slogan_jim
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Breathing Under Water
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I am finishing an online course titled "Breathing Under Water: Spirituality and the Twelve Steps" and wanted to share this quote: "With these twelve important breathing lessons, you now know for yourself that you can breathe, and even under water. Because the breath of God( or yo...
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PP
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AA destroyed our family
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I read with interest the account of "James" family being destroyed through AA's infliction into his wife's life. I have had the exact experience. I am happy beyond description that my wife quit drinking. She certainly would have met with a disastrous ending However, she has become a com...
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Jack3126
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