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hopefloats72 · hopefloats72

Hello all I am a newbie looking for some advice and support. My MIL is a full blown alcoholic. We found out last summer and my FIL confirmed our suspicions. She has to drink to stay level, drinks 24/7, gets up in the night for a drink. She switched to Vodka 5 years ago from her usual drink of rye. Finding out s...

Lyne · Lyne

Hi everyone. I went to an addiction counselor with my A yesterday, and between two talks with my son during the week, and what I shared with the counselor, I SAW how broken my marriage is. And I do have to look at myself, and ask the question, why have I stayed with a person who has hurt me so much? And the a...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

Today my AH was extremely mad at my newest boundaries: You have three choices: 1. Rehab 2. Do what YOU want, but you have to live someplace else 3. Do what YOU want and kid and I will move out at the end of the month. I can't live this way any longer. So I am trying to move towards what is best for ME and my kid. Eve...

hotrod · hotrod

The C2C reading for today 8-12 speaks about the 3rd Step turning our will and life over to the care of HP. The reading suggests that this is thei type of surrender that we need in order to accept the fact that we are not all powerful and in control The quote is from Plato:"Time will change an even revers...

Flyfree · Flyfree

Hi I am struggling today with respect. How am I supposed to show respect to my AH? He does nothing for our relationship except create drama and drain us financially. How do I show myself more respect??? Why is this life placed before me to handle??? I know my HP has to be at work and more will be revealed lat...

Mattie · Mattie

I got this from the Facebook page of Harriet Lerner, who writes about relationships, and I thought it summed up what I've experienced in Al-Anon: "SETTING BOUNDARIES takes so much courage, whether it's with a partner, parent or close friend. Why is it so scary? As we become clearer about what is accep...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

So lately I have been examining myself. What did I bring to my marriage, to my adult life, to motherhood. I guess an inventory. Not all inclusive, but I had been thinking about what quality about me makes it almost impossible to deal with my AH? The need to be "right." So, through this program I have learn...

likemyheart · likemyheart

Daughter called me, car was smoking, mine, she pulled over, turned it off, called me - in the throes of a nasty cough/cold I got up and going to pick her up and see what needed to be done to save my car (ha ha ha). Needless to say grubby dressed mom to the rescue? Part way there phone rings, answer it cause its h...

MizzB · MizzB

One thing I have found useful for many years - even before ABF was in my life - is music. I'm not a fan of meditation and mindfulness - I've never really found I can empty my head enough to make it a peaceful time. So I use music instead. I am currently putting together a list of songs that help. I can put them on...

Iamhere · Iamhere

Good morning MIP family - TGIF (Thank Goodness It's Friday)! Today's reading in Courage to Change discusses the importance of meetings and leaning into the Al-Anon program -- especially when we don't want to. It talks about how we all face challenges and when we hit that point where we want to hide u...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

So now that I have accepted the realities of living with an alcoholic, really accepted my situation, the last month or so has been livable. What I want? Definitely not. But I successfully use my slogans, attend my meetings, and use the "right" tools when dealing with my AH. I even weathered the storm t...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

My AH went to his immediate boss on Tuesday and told him about his drinking problem and asked for help. His boss had him driven home by a co-worker and told him he would check in on him (phone) the next day. The next day they let him go. i was pretty sure there is some law about that and alcoholism being a 'dise...

SerenityRUS · SerenityRUS

Well, I have been really stressed out over the whole getting the girl into a covered psychiatrist on her insurance plan and HP stepped in. I had a big fight with the insurance company today .. I have no issues with being conflict habituated when things are outside of my control .. absolutely none at all...

MizzB · MizzB

Since my boy dog died, I've been trying to get the girl into routines for when I go out as she's never been alone before. She and boy dog came as a pair and now she wants me to be round all the time which I can't be when work starts in September. Anyway, the signal I"m going out is that she gets cheese. She loves c...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

So today I get a text at work from AH: "Not going to go to mom's bday thing. I told my boss about my drinking problem... I'll explain what's going to happen when I get home." WTH? So this is the man for the 8 months that I have known about his alcoholism who won't seek help, won't take advantage of his work's su...

Skorpi · Skorpi

Good morning, MIP! Today's reading in Courage to Change is about being who we are. The author describes a feeling of not ever being able to be themself around other people, for fear that others would reject them. The author talks about realizing at an AlAnon meeting that they were not alone in this fea...

Taraxacum1 · Taraxacum1

I'm struggling with my responses to AH when he wants me to pity him or take his side in a situation I often disagree with his assessment of what other people should do or say and feel he is lacking in maturity and empathy when he feels someone is wrong. He comes to me with a story about a person who he feels i...

Iamhere · Iamhere

Today's reading shares about how each of us lives with this disease a bit differently. Meeting discussions regarding housekeeping habits showed how the disease presents and we react. Some members kept a tidy home which gave the illusion of control. Others had clothes, paper, books and more clu...

SerenityRUS · SerenityRUS

A really great girlfriend of mine is in SF, CA .. that's my home city or one of them .. lol .. it's where I was born so I spent a lot of time in Northern CA. It brought about a funny/odd memory I hadn't thought about in years. When I was kid I remember running into my Dad at the airport in SF .. he was catching ano...

Mattie · Mattie

Actually I think it's denial. This is on the part of my A. You may remember that he had a big drinking-related health crisis recently. He wasn't speaking to me, but from what I heard, he only barely pulled through. A month in the hospital, and now he is in a wheelchair. He says he is involved with AA, b...

NatalieP · NatalieP

I just have a question about attending my first meeting. My father has offered to go with me to the meeting tomorrow night. Is that ok? He technically is a "friend" of an alcoholic even if he's actually going more for my support than for my AH. But he does care for my AH a great deal and he offered, I didn...

MizzB · MizzB

Hi, I'm new here but I have been to a couple of al-anon meetings. I just find it hard to get to them at the moment. I'm tired of the alcoholic in my life. When he's sober he says all the right things but then he drinks. He has the memory of a goldfish when he's drunk so I remove myself from arguments and convers...

bzz123 · bzz123

Hello, I am new to this, having gone to two meetings and three 1x1 therapy appointments. I am ready for a change, ready to break the cycle, etc. I know you're not supposed to give me advice, but I am interested in hearing your experiences. My person is still actively drinking and absolutely on the verg...

NatalieP · NatalieP

I am having a very hard time with Step One. While I'm trying to accept that I have no control over alcoholism or its symptoms and that I need to allow the alcoholic to deal with the consequences of his choices, I feel so many consequences effect only me. How do I still take the snide comments and insinuatio...

yanksfan51 · yanksfan51

Good morning Everyone- Today's reading illuminates a problem that many of us affected by alcoholism have: speaking openly and directly (especially about our feelings). The writer describes a camping trip his/her father offered, and then cancellled. The adult child was completely disappoin...

SerenityRUS · SerenityRUS

At least I got a a little more information and some sticker shock as well as my girl got some valuable information. In the form of learning curve .. this is all good. So the GP explained a great deal that the dumb neurologist did not .. ugh. We are not closer to a diagnosis however we at least got her anoth...

tiredtonite · tiredtonite

Please join us! The Alanon meeting has just started in the chatroom. Our topics this morning are "Family Disease that effects everyone" and Open Alanon topic.

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

I posted on another thread re: my AH. My AH's nephew texted me today and told me that AH wants to wait a few days. He then asked me if AH was stalling. LOL! I told him, more than likely. I told him that AH is thinking clearer now, and thinks he can manage this with minimal fuss. My nephew then told me that all th...

atheos · atheos

Tomorrow I will spend about $200 for a used elliptical machine on Craigslist. I can already hear my dad going off about this. "What does she need an elliptical machine for? She's broke! And she just bought an iPhone! And a mattress, and then a topper for the d*mn mattress! Don't DO stupid things like thi...

Isthisreallife · Isthisreallife

I can't do it anymore. I'm fed up. We've been married 7 years and he's been a major alcoholic for 5 years. I am basically a single mother because he's a drunken mess whenever he's home. He's been violent to me while drinking at least 3 times this year. He would never do such a thing sober but he hasn't had a so...

LexieA · LexieA

My attitude stinks! I try to find joy in my life but it seems like anxiety gets the best of me and I feel anger and sad. I didn't want this life so now I have to have a program so I don't go nuts living with an alcoholic. How do you continually turned your life to happy all by yourself?

Junenine · Junenine

i decided i couldn't hold on to my relationship any longer. we had 3 rough years. i was enabling and his disease escalated. i kicked him out. i was (am) heartbroken and traumatized. he went to rehab and then residential program, away for over two months. treatment at the place sucks. we have stayed in t...

Buckeye Girl · Buckeye Girl

First off I want to say I've been an Alanon member for about 3 years. I'm staying at my single adult daughter's condo to take care of her pets because she has entered a 30 day rehab program for the 4th time. Since I live about 1500 miles away, i flew in here about 10 days ago. I helped her get into a treatment fa...

Jean4444 · Jean4444

I was just reading some CAL (al-anon Conference Approved Literature) this after noon and read about something I had not read about before. The 4 M's. They are Managing, Manipulating, Martyrdom and Mothering. From what I read, these four characteristics can go either way for us al-anoners. I though...

Lyne · Lyne

Maintenance Steps: The author talks about Steps 10, 11, & 12, being referred to as "maintenance steps." However, the author prefered to think of them as "growth steps." He/she shared about retiring and having more time for "stinking thinking," but decided to turn this around and use the tim...

Aline · Aline

Hi all. I was at my meeting today, but didn't share about my last big enabling thing, just didn't feel up to it, because honestly I'm ashamed about this almost more than about anything else at the moment. I have reduced enabling my ex-abf drastically during the last year or so, but I still spend quite a lo...

hotrod · hotrod

The ODAT reading for today, August 6 speaks about staying in the moment and appreciating treasures that can be found in the moment and the day. It suggests that if we are intent on building our lives iin a positive fashion we need to focus on living just for the day,and in the moment.IN this manner w...

Sorcha · Sorcha

Hi everyone, so the on/off non live-in alcoholic partner of 4 years has been drinking constantly for 6-8 weeks now. It has been mostly off between us for the last few months, he he's been trying to talk to me but really I just felt like I'd had it, just couldn't cope with it anymore. Then we had a talk a coupl...

MissM · MissM

Today's C2C reading is about resentments, and the way that we tend to keep them burning by re-living and "reahearsing" them to make sure that we still feel justified in the way that we have assigned blame to others and pity to ourselves. It's very liberating to realise that we actually don't have to do t...

a4l · a4l

I can not believe how amazingly well this programme works when we let it. This morning I did something I didn't want to do, was anxious about doing but was able to do by concentrating on principles over personalities. My immediate foo system is immensely alcoholically complicated and every variati...

Jerry F · Jerry F

My eldest son is in relapse and almost every aspect of his life is cracked and falling apart with the latest aspect being his children and his children-in-law. They are drinking and are polishing the alcoholic personalities and might be focusing some animosity our way. We spoke to and passed some...

mamalioness · mamalioness

I see my post on Mattie's boundary post ( A great one, Mattie, thank you) I think I should start a new topic on this one its weird...In my old sick days, I had friends up the ying yang and some were actually GOOD....here??? I get into recovery and it seems my circle has shrunk...like I am in exile or somet...

southernmissgirl9 · southernmissgirl9

Hi, I'm new here. I need some immediate help so unfortunately I have not read all the rules and regulations and FAQs so please forgive me if this topic has already been mentioned. I will try to make this as short as possible but there are details I need to make sure I hit. First off, my husband is a drug a...

bud · bud

Hi MIP Family, I never could have guessed how much last night's meeting would change my life- and started to release me from my suffering. From my last post, I entered the room still shaking from the downward spiral of events (from previous post). I saw familiar faces and some new ones - this group is a g...

_bunny_ · _bunny_

Today I told my AH that the boys and I are not coming home this weekend. I could use some time to myself, to catch up on some cleaning and errands and also self care kind of stuff, yoga, reading etc....I continue to live an hour away from our home during the work week and go home on the weekends. The move and ne...

SerenityRUS · SerenityRUS

I am looking outside the box at this point and I am ok with where I am at .. my daughter goes for her appointment and I have 100 other stresses happening all of which I create for myself .. LOL .. somehow it will all workout .. it's all I have at the moment. This week has been stressful however been incredibly...

Iamhere · Iamhere

Today's reading discusses how the program helps us accept who we are as well as accepting who others are. We are reminded that the tools of our program help us recognize that we have value - simply because we breathe the breath of humanity. As we use the program tools, work with a sponsor and recover, w...

tiredtonite · tiredtonite

Topics are "Enabling, how am I contributing?" and Open Topic (Alanon) Courage is our chairperson this morning.

sunmustshine · sunmustshine

On vacation. AH was doing great staying sober then began to slip. Realized he had a sunburn last night and flew off the handle claiming I didn't put sunblock on him properly when asked because I'm so lazy. So gross. The kicker is I have the same sunburn on my back. Guess who put my sunblock on? Ha! Of course...

a4l · a4l

So I abandoned FB five or six years ago, because I didn't like it. Recently, for the sake of my family project, I had to get back on. It made me a bit anxious but there were also long-term friends I cut off in the process whom it was good to contact again. True friends, you know who they are with time, that's fo...

Teddy · Teddy

My A Husband and I have been separated for 16 months - he lives in an apt building we own. He has been mia since last Wednesday. Holder up in his apt now for days drinking alone. This happens every few months. I am wirried bevause he is not gking to wotk. We have 3 children. what am I to do? In the pas...

Lyne · Lyne

I accept, detach, don't try to control, etc., and I cannot get used to my A's continued lying. She expects me to instantaneously believe her, after 20+ years of lying. Last night and this morning she is angry, has a very loud volume, and I am trying to stay calm. She is unable to put herself in my shoes....

Iamhere · Iamhere

Today's reading is about denial and learning how to face the reality of the past without placing blame or wallowing in self-pity but instead to learn from it. Today's reminder --- There is much to learn from the past, but I cannot allow past hurts to smolder and destroy today. Instead, I can ask my Hi...

Mercywilkins · Mercywilkins

Hello Im New here! My husband just got back from rehab he was there for two months He has been back for two weeks now and I am wondering what is happening with our marriage. For three years he was not available to us for two months he was gone he is back and only into himself we live apart we have two grown chil...

WestMan · WestMan

A couple weeks ago my AW had me look at a new red/purple mark that had appeared on her breast. It's an odd pattern and just a bit bigger than a quarter. Obviously not normal and I urged her to make an appointment with the physician. I'm not too worried yet. She does have an immune disease which results in all...

Blue61 · Blue61

I am new here. My AB has been sober for 6 weeks now and before he was sober he would be so attentive loving and would want to hang out all the time. Now he doesn't call me, text or come over ( we are neighbors) I feel like he can only love me when he has been drinking. I really am upset by his behaviour towards me as...

bud · bud

Hi my Alanon Family, It's been a while between my posts. I've been struggling because my relationship has been declining. I knew for a while my needs were not getting met and when I approached my bf, I realized he had put up walls and was not emotonally available. I couldn't pull the trigger on the relati...

Skorpi · Skorpi

Good morning MIP! Today's reading in Courage to Change is about the Second Tradition (For our group purpose there is but one authority - a loving God as he may express himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants - they do not govern). The author reflects on their desire to con...

girlinthisworld · girlinthisworld

I'm 19 years old, and my mum has been drinking since I was about 10/11, and it's gradually worsened over the years. She's not a physically abusive drunk but instead is emotionally abusive, saying horrible things to me and my dad, and really anyone who's in the room and may have challenged her about her d...

Jerry F · Jerry F

Glad I had a program to take with me and use cause other wise I would still be in tantrums. Was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people who had no power to do anything except to point in other directions at other people in office. I have to go knock on the doors of others, some of whom I ha...

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	alcoholic MIL (Preview) Hello all I am a newbie looking for some advice and support. My MIL is a full blown alcoholic. We found out last summer and my FIL confirmed our suspicions. She has to drink to stay level, drinks 24/7, gets up in the night for a drink. She switched to Vodka 5 years ago from her usual drink of rye. Finding out s...	hopefloats72	2	477	Aug 13, 2017 by hotrod
	Feeling sad today (Preview) Hi everyone. I went to an addiction counselor with my A yesterday, and between two talks with my son during the week, and what I shared with the counselor, I SAW how broken my marriage is. And I do have to look at myself, and ask the question, why have I stayed with a person who has hurt me so much? And the a...	Lyne	12	3381	Aug 13, 2017 by bud
	Needing a hug, I guess (Preview) Today my AH was extremely mad at my newest boundaries: You have three choices: 1. Rehab 2. Do what YOU want, but you have to live someplace else 3. Do what YOU want and kid and I will move out at the end of the month. I can't live this way any longer. So I am trying to move towards what is best for ME and my kid. Eve...	PosiesandPuppies	21	713	Aug 13, 2017 by T Sears
	C2C 8-12 (Preview) The C2C reading for today 8-12 speaks about the 3rd Step turning our will and life over to the care of HP. The reading suggests that this is thei type of surrender that we need in order to accept the fact that we are not all powerful and in control The quote is from Plato:"Time will change an even revers...	hotrod	2	484	Aug 12, 2017 by Iamhere
	Respect (Preview) Hi I am struggling today with respect. How am I supposed to show respect to my AH? He does nothing for our relationship except create drama and drain us financially. How do I show myself more respect??? Why is this life placed before me to handle??? I know my HP has to be at work and more will be revealed lat...	Flyfree	12	796	Aug 12, 2017 by milkwood
	Boundaries (Preview) I got this from the Facebook page of Harriet Lerner, who writes about relationships, and I thought it summed up what I've experienced in Al-Anon: "SETTING BOUNDARIES takes so much courage, whether it's with a partner, parent or close friend. Why is it so scary? As we become clearer about what is accep...	Mattie	22	2546	Aug 12, 2017 by mamalioness
	Self-Examination (Preview) So lately I have been examining myself. What did I bring to my marriage, to my adult life, to motherhood. I guess an inventory. Not all inclusive, but I had been thinking about what quality about me makes it almost impossible to deal with my AH? The need to be "right." So, through this program I have learn...	PosiesandPuppies	13	692	Aug 11, 2017 by mamalioness
	Example: Accepting the things I cannot change..... (Preview) Daughter called me, car was smoking, mine, she pulled over, turned it off, called me - in the throes of a nasty cough/cold I got up and going to pick her up and see what needed to be done to save my car (ha ha ha). Needless to say grubby dressed mom to the rescue? Part way there phone rings, answer it cause its h...	likemyheart	7	692	Aug 11, 2017 by a4l
	Soundtrack to my sanity (Preview) One thing I have found useful for many years - even before ABF was in my life - is music. I'm not a fan of meditation and mindfulness - I've never really found I can empty my head enough to make it a peaceful time. So I use music instead. I am currently putting together a list of songs that help. I can put them on...	MizzB	7	580	Aug 11, 2017 by a4l
	Courage to Change (C2C) 8/11/17 (Preview) Good morning MIP family - TGIF (Thank Goodness It's Friday)! Today's reading in Courage to Change discusses the importance of meetings and leaning into the Al-Anon program -- especially when we don't want to. It talks about how we all face challenges and when we hit that point where we want to hide u...	Iamhere	2	477	Aug 11, 2017 by Iamhere
	Dealing with a new wrinkle... (Preview) So now that I have accepted the realities of living with an alcoholic, really accepted my situation, the last month or so has been livable. What I want? Definitely not. But I successfully use my slogans, attend my meetings, and use the "right" tools when dealing with my AH. I even weathered the storm t...	PosiesandPuppies	12	767	Aug 11, 2017 by MizzB
	PNP Update (Preview) My AH went to his immediate boss on Tuesday and told him about his drinking problem and asked for help. His boss had him driven home by a co-worker and told him he would check in on him (phone) the next day. The next day they let him go. i was pretty sure there is some law about that and alcoholism being a 'dise...	PosiesandPuppies	15	733	Aug 11, 2017 by MizzB
	Good News .. (Preview) Well, I have been really stressed out over the whole getting the girl into a covered psychiatrist on her insurance plan and HP stepped in. I had a big fight with the insurance company today .. I have no issues with being conflict habituated when things are outside of my control .. absolutely none at all...	SerenityRUS	7	553	Aug 10, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	A little light relief (Preview) Since my boy dog died, I've been trying to get the girl into routines for when I go out as she's never been alone before. She and boy dog came as a pair and now she wants me to be round all the time which I can't be when work starts in September. Anyway, the signal I"m going out is that she gets cheese. She loves c...	MizzB	4	530	Aug 10, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	Wow, did he actually hit his "rock bottom?" (Preview) So today I get a text at work from AH: "Not going to go to mom's bday thing. I told my boss about my drinking problem... I'll explain what's going to happen when I get home." WTH? So this is the man for the 8 months that I have known about his alcoholism who won't seek help, won't take advantage of his work's su...	PosiesandPuppies	30	1337	Aug 10, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	C2C August 9 (Preview) Good morning, MIP! Today's reading in Courage to Change is about being who we are. The author describes a feeling of not ever being able to be themself around other people, for fear that others would reject them. The author talks about realizing at an AlAnon meeting that they were not alone in this fea...	Skorpi	7	504	Aug 10, 2017 by tiredtonite
	AH seeking collusion, what can I do better? (Preview) I'm struggling with my responses to AH when he wants me to pity him or take his side in a situation I often disagree with his assessment of what other people should do or say and feel he is lacking in maturity and empathy when he feels someone is wrong. He comes to me with a story about a person who he feels i...	Taraxacum1	6	573	Aug 10, 2017 by Neroli
	Courage to Change (C2C) 8/10/17 (Preview) Today's reading shares about how each of us lives with this disease a bit differently. Meeting discussions regarding housekeeping habits showed how the disease presents and we react. Some members kept a tidy home which gave the illusion of control. Others had clothes, paper, books and more clu...	Iamhere	4	496	Aug 10, 2017 by MizzB
	Putting the "fun" in Dysfunction .. (Preview) A really great girlfriend of mine is in SF, CA .. that's my home city or one of them .. lol .. it's where I was born so I spent a lot of time in Northern CA. It brought about a funny/odd memory I hadn't thought about in years. When I was kid I remember running into my Dad at the airport in SF .. he was catching ano...	SerenityRUS	4	937	Aug 10, 2017 by Jerry F
	Outrageous optimism - or is it denial? (Preview) Actually I think it's denial. This is on the part of my A. You may remember that he had a big drinking-related health crisis recently. He wasn't speaking to me, but from what I heard, he only barely pulled through. A month in the hospital, and now he is in a wheelchair. He says he is involved with AA, b...	Mattie	5	792	Aug 10, 2017 by Bo
	Quick Question about Meetings (Preview) I just have a question about attending my first meeting. My father has offered to go with me to the meeting tomorrow night. Is that ok? He technically is a "friend" of an alcoholic even if he's actually going more for my support than for my AH. But he does care for my AH a great deal and he offered, I didn...	NatalieP	3	472	Aug 9, 2017 by Junenine
	Someone's listening (Preview) Hi, I'm new here but I have been to a couple of al-anon meetings. I just find it hard to get to them at the moment. I'm tired of the alcoholic in my life. When he's sober he says all the right things but then he drinks. He has the memory of a goldfish when he's drunk so I remove myself from arguments and convers...	MizzB	10	560	Aug 9, 2017 by MizzB
	question about enabling - want your experiences (Preview) Hello, I am new to this, having gone to two meetings and three 1x1 therapy appointments. I am ready for a change, ready to break the cycle, etc. I know you're not supposed to give me advice, but I am interested in hearing your experiences. My person is still actively drinking and absolutely on the verg...	bzz123	12	1023	Aug 9, 2017 by MizzB
	Stuck on understanding Step One (Preview) I am having a very hard time with Step One. While I'm trying to accept that I have no control over alcoholism or its symptoms and that I need to allow the alcoholic to deal with the consequences of his choices, I feel so many consequences effect only me. How do I still take the snide comments and insinuatio...	NatalieP	23	883	Aug 9, 2017 by El
	Hope for Today Aug 8 (Preview) Good morning Everyone- Today's reading illuminates a problem that many of us affected by alcoholism have: speaking openly and directly (especially about our feelings). The writer describes a camping trip his/her father offered, and then cancellled. The adult child was completely disappoin...	yanksfan51	4	487	Aug 9, 2017 by bud
	More will be revealed .. (Preview) At least I got a a little more information and some sticker shock as well as my girl got some valuable information. In the form of learning curve .. this is all good. So the GP explained a great deal that the dumb neurologist did not .. ugh. We are not closer to a diagnosis however we at least got her anoth...	SerenityRUS	7	539	Aug 9, 2017 by bud
	Wednesday Morning MIP Alanon Meeting (Preview) Please join us! The Alanon meeting has just started in the chatroom. Our topics this morning are "Family Disease that effects everyone" and Open Alanon topic.	tiredtonite	1	431	Aug 8, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	Weird feeling (Preview) I posted on another thread re: my AH. My AH's nephew texted me today and told me that AH wants to wait a few days. He then asked me if AH was stalling. LOL! I told him, more than likely. I told him that AH is thinking clearer now, and thinks he can manage this with minimal fuss. My nephew then told me that all th...	PosiesandPuppies	13	767	Aug 8, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	Internalized negative voices (Preview) Tomorrow I will spend about $200 for a used elliptical machine on Craigslist. I can already hear my dad going off about this. "What does she need an elliptical machine for? She's broke! And she just bought an iPhone! And a mattress, and then a topper for the d*mn mattress! Don't DO stupid things like thi...	atheos	10	588	Aug 8, 2017 by SerenityRUS
	I'm done. I'm gone... but (Preview) I can't do it anymore. I'm fed up. We've been married 7 years and he's been a major alcoholic for 5 years. I am basically a single mother because he's a drunken mess whenever he's home. He's been violent to me while drinking at least 3 times this year. He would never do such a thing sober but he hasn't had a so...	Isthisreallife	11	632	Aug 8, 2017 by andromeda
	Attitude (Preview) My attitude stinks! I try to find joy in my life but it seems like anxiety gets the best of me and I feel anger and sad. I didn't want this life so now I have to have a program so I don't go nuts living with an alcoholic. How do you continually turned your life to happy all by yourself?	LexieA	6	829	Aug 7, 2017 by LexieA
	letting go and holding on (Preview) i decided i couldn't hold on to my relationship any longer. we had 3 rough years. i was enabling and his disease escalated. i kicked him out. i was (am) heartbroken and traumatized. he went to rehab and then residential program, away for over two months. treatment at the place sucks. we have stayed in t...	Junenine	20	654	Aug 7, 2017 by Junenine
	I need some perspective please!!! (Preview) First off I want to say I've been an Alanon member for about 3 years. I'm staying at my single adult daughter's condo to take care of her pets because she has entered a 30 day rehab program for the 4th time. Since I live about 1500 miles away, i flew in here about 10 days ago. I helped her get into a treatment fa...	Buckeye Girl	30	1960	Aug 7, 2017 by el-cee
	The 4 M's (Preview) I was just reading some CAL (al-anon Conference Approved Literature) this after noon and read about something I had not read about before. The 4 M's. They are Managing, Manipulating, Martyrdom and Mothering. From what I read, these four characteristics can go either way for us al-anoners. I though...	Jean4444	18	17229	Aug 7, 2017 by mamalioness
	C2C 8/7 (Preview) Maintenance Steps: The author talks about Steps 10, 11, & 12, being referred to as "maintenance steps." However, the author prefered to think of them as "growth steps." He/she shared about retiring and having more time for "stinking thinking," but decided to turn this around and use the tim...	Lyne	6	533	Aug 7, 2017 by mamalioness
	Enabling - money (Preview) Hi all. I was at my meeting today, but didn't share about my last big enabling thing, just didn't feel up to it, because honestly I'm ashamed about this almost more than about anything else at the moment. I have reduced enabling my ex-abf drastically during the last year or so, but I still spend quite a lo...	Aline	16	657	Aug 7, 2017 by Aline
	Alanon Reading 8-6-2017 (Preview) The ODAT reading for today, August 6 speaks about staying in the moment and appreciating treasures that can be found in the moment and the day. It suggests that if we are intent on building our lives iin a positive fashion we need to focus on living just for the day,and in the moment.IN this manner w...	hotrod	13	589	Aug 6, 2017 by DavidG
	Not sure how to handle this, esh please! (Preview) Hi everyone, so the on/off non live-in alcoholic partner of 4 years has been drinking constantly for 6-8 weeks now. It has been mostly off between us for the last few months, he he's been trying to talk to me but really I just felt like I'd had it, just couldn't cope with it anymore. Then we had a talk a coupl...	Sorcha	8	849	Aug 6, 2017 by shrnp
	Courage To Change 5/8- Resentments. (Preview) Today's C2C reading is about resentments, and the way that we tend to keep them burning by re-living and "reahearsing" them to make sure that we still feel justified in the way that we have assigned blame to others and pity to ourselves. It's very liberating to realise that we actually don't have to do t...	MissM	9	1485	Aug 6, 2017 by Aline
	Principles over personalities in all my affairs (Preview) I can not believe how amazingly well this programme works when we let it. This morning I did something I didn't want to do, was anxious about doing but was able to do by concentrating on principles over personalities. My immediate foo system is immensely alcoholically complicated and every variati...	a4l	8	586	Aug 6, 2017 by tiredtonite
	another generation crumbling. (Preview) My eldest son is in relapse and almost every aspect of his life is cracked and falling apart with the latest aspect being his children and his children-in-law. They are drinking and are polishing the alcoholic personalities and might be focusing some animosity our way. We spoke to and passed some...	Jerry F	13	567	Aug 5, 2017 by tiredtonite
	Some stuff I see (Preview) I see my post on Mattie's boundary post ( A great one, Mattie, thank you) I think I should start a new topic on this one its weird...In my old sick days, I had friends up the ying yang and some were actually GOOD....here??? I get into recovery and it seems my circle has shrunk...like I am in exile or somet...	mamalioness	6	601	Aug 5, 2017 by mamalioness
	New here. Help/Advice needed (Preview) Hi, I'm new here. I need some immediate help so unfortunately I have not read all the rules and regulations and FAQs so please forgive me if this topic has already been mentioned. I will try to make this as short as possible but there are details I need to make sure I hit. First off, my husband is a drug a...	southernmissgirl9	11	785	Aug 5, 2017 by Iamhere
	C2C-more revealed after meeting (Preview) Hi MIP Family, I never could have guessed how much last night's meeting would change my life- and started to release me from my suffering. From my last post, I entered the room still shaking from the downward spiral of events (from previous post). I saw familiar faces and some new ones - this group is a g...	bud	9	474	Aug 5, 2017 by bud
	Not my norm (Preview) Today I told my AH that the boys and I are not coming home this weekend. I could use some time to myself, to catch up on some cleaning and errands and also self care kind of stuff, yoga, reading etc....I continue to live an hour away from our home during the work week and go home on the weekends. The move and ne...	_bunny_	4	756	Aug 5, 2017 by mamalioness
	Outside the box .. (Preview) I am looking outside the box at this point and I am ok with where I am at .. my daughter goes for her appointment and I have 100 other stresses happening all of which I create for myself .. LOL .. somehow it will all workout .. it's all I have at the moment. This week has been stressful however been incredibly...	SerenityRUS	6	453	Aug 4, 2017 by shrnp
	Courage to Change (C2C) 8/4/17 (Preview) Today's reading discusses how the program helps us accept who we are as well as accepting who others are. We are reminded that the tools of our program help us recognize that we have value - simply because we breathe the breath of humanity. As we use the program tools, work with a sponsor and recover, w...	Iamhere	6	393	Aug 4, 2017 by Iamhere
	Friday Morning Meeting in Progress (Preview) Topics are "Enabling, how am I contributing?" and Open Topic (Alanon) Courage is our chairperson this morning.	tiredtonite	1	420	Aug 4, 2017 by hotrod
	Nastiness (Preview) On vacation. AH was doing great staying sober then began to slip. Realized he had a sunburn last night and flew off the handle claiming I didn't put sunblock on him properly when asked because I'm so lazy. So gross. The kicker is I have the same sunburn on my back. Guess who put my sunblock on? Ha! Of course...	sunmustshine	8	585	Aug 4, 2017 by KT2015
	Mental and emotional freedom (Preview) So I abandoned FB five or six years ago, because I didn't like it. Recently, for the sake of my family project, I had to get back on. It made me a bit anxious but there were also long-term friends I cut off in the process whom it was good to contact again. True friends, you know who they are with time, that's fo...	a4l	12	672	Aug 4, 2017 by bud
	Ah on a bender been days since anyone has seen him (Preview) My A Husband and I have been separated for 16 months - he lives in an apt building we own. He has been mia since last Wednesday. Holder up in his apt now for days drinking alone. This happens every few months. I am wirried bevause he is not gking to wotk. We have 3 children. what am I to do? In the pas...	Teddy	5	484	Aug 4, 2017 by Skorpi
	Lying is so destructive (Preview) I accept, detach, don't try to control, etc., and I cannot get used to my A's continued lying. She expects me to instantaneously believe her, after 20+ years of lying. Last night and this morning she is angry, has a very loud volume, and I am trying to stay calm. She is unable to put herself in my shoes....	Lyne	6	497	Aug 3, 2017 by Iamhere
	Courage to Change (C2C) 8/3/17 (Preview) Today's reading is about denial and learning how to face the reality of the past without placing blame or wallowing in self-pity but instead to learn from it. Today's reminder --- There is much to learn from the past, but I cannot allow past hurts to smolder and destroy today. Instead, I can ask my Hi...	Iamhere	5	493	Aug 3, 2017 by mamalioness
	Alone and angry (Preview) Hello Im New here! My husband just got back from rehab he was there for two months He has been back for two weeks now and I am wondering what is happening with our marriage. For three years he was not available to us for two months he was gone he is back and only into himself we live apart we have two grown chil...	Mercywilkins	16	642	Aug 3, 2017 by mamalioness
	AW won't go to Dr. (Preview) A couple weeks ago my AW had me look at a new red/purple mark that had appeared on her breast. It's an odd pattern and just a bit bigger than a quarter. Obviously not normal and I urged her to make an appointment with the physician. I'm not too worried yet. She does have an immune disease which results in all...	WestMan	10	584	Aug 3, 2017 by KT2015
	Dazed and confused (Preview) I am new here. My AB has been sober for 6 weeks now and before he was sober he would be so attentive loving and would want to hang out all the time. Now he doesn't call me, text or come over ( we are neighbors) I feel like he can only love me when he has been drinking. I really am upset by his behaviour towards me as...	Blue61	4	1320	Aug 3, 2017 by Iamhere
	looking at my part- ESH appreciated (Preview) Hi my Alanon Family, It's been a while between my posts. I've been struggling because my relationship has been declining. I knew for a while my needs were not getting met and when I approached my bf, I realized he had put up walls and was not emotonally available. I couldn't pull the trigger on the relati...	bud	18	667	Aug 3, 2017 by mamalioness
	C2C August 2 second tradition (Preview) Good morning MIP! Today's reading in Courage to Change is about the Second Tradition (For our group purpose there is but one authority - a loving God as he may express himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants - they do not govern). The author reflects on their desire to con...	Skorpi	6	599	Aug 2, 2017 by bud
	My mother is blaming me for everything.. Mum alcoholic daughter mother emotional abuse (Preview) I'm 19 years old, and my mum has been drinking since I was about 10/11, and it's gradually worsened over the years. She's not a physically abusive drunk but instead is emotionally abusive, saying horrible things to me and my dad, and really anyone who's in the room and may have challenged her about her d...	girlinthisworld	4	7008	Aug 2, 2017 by Aline
	Ohhhhhhh well (Preview) Glad I had a program to take with me and use cause other wise I would still be in tantrums. Was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people who had no power to do anything except to point in other directions at other people in office. I have to go knock on the doors of others, some of whom I ha...	Jerry F	4	412	Aug 2, 2017 by Iamhere
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