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ok people i get it, i'm sick, but what now ??? see i know i'm sick i feel sick to the bottom of my stomach, and it hurts!!! it hurts so bad and i just want it to stop. so how do i do that ???
problem one i dont know whats wrong only that its very wrong and if you dont know what it is how do you fix it ??
problem two the pain, painkillers dont work on this one .
so i'm sad and angry and does anybody care ?? not in this house .
i started reading "CODEPENDANT NO MORE , BY MELODY BEATTIE " the first chapter is a story of someone called jessica and two things really jumped out at me
she said"as usual, i work,and you play. i worry, and you relax. i care, and you dont. you feel good, and i hurt."
that really sums up my day today. i have run myself ragged and does anyone even notice oh no all have agendas of their own and as long as their needs are met stuff the rest. i feel like just giving up and going to bed!!!
the second thing in jessicas story was this " the only thing that changed was i felt worse. my life had ground to a halt; i wanted it to end. i had no hope that things would get better; i didnt even know what was wrong. i had no purpose, except to care for other people, and i wasnt doing a good job of that."
so what are we to do ?? i've heard all the take it easy stuff and the one day at a time stuff but that isnt actually doing anything and to be honest i'm not good at sitting and waiting. a moving target is harder to hit tends to be my moto. so does anyone have the magic fomula cause i'm on my second alcoholic marraige and that makes me one sick puppy.
please someone just tell me what to do, and i really need someone to tell me that they got better and are now living a happy life cause i need hope right now. i'm in a big black hole that everytime i try to climb out someone just pushes me back in and now i'm tired, so so tired i just want to give up and stop it all.
so thats me today. a total mess and very resentful.
Get to a meeting and if you have a sponsor call her if not get one.Know you are not alone and it shall pass.Keep comeing here posting and go on line meetings and I know it sounds funny but it works keep your self in meetings .
we all wish that there was a pill we could take and we would instantly feel better, but I hate to say that there isn't - it will take exactly what it took to get you where you are - time - but the main the you can do is find a good Al-Anon meeting, get some phone numbers, find a sponsor, start working on you - it won't happen over night, but it will start to get better. The program works if you work it,
Don't stop before the miracle happens, the miracle in you,
Rita
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It will get better.....only you can make it happen...take control and stop waiting for him to change..only can change yourself...take a walk...bubble bath...listen to music...call a friend...keep reading...it is very confusing at first...do something today that puts a smile on your face even if just for a moment...your pain is REAL,...you are not alone
I too feel the same as you.... I am fairly new to al anon, my boyfriend of going on 4 yrs is the A in my life. I sit in the MIP chat room. Friday my A went into a rage over me knowing that he was drinking vodka again. I have never felt that I should be afraid of him. But that night I was I did not argue with him, I just left when things calmed down. Then he showed up at my house on Saturday night late, drunk of course. I refused to argue with him and went to bed. I have told him many times. DO NOT BRING IT TO MY HOUSE.... and he did. I have accepted it for the last time. I took him home sunday morning and that was the last I have seen of him. I miss him desperately..... And know that I have to say what I mean. And that in order for change to happen one has to make the first step. Thanks Elizabeth ......... well put for me today....
It will get better.....only you can make it happen...take control and stop waiting for him to change..only can change yourself...take a walk...bubble bath...listen to music...call a friend...keep reading...it is very confusing at first...do something today that puts a smile on your face even if just for a moment...your pain is REAL,...you are not alone
Just to take my edge off today I sat down and wrote down what I was feeling,,,,, It helped
Hi : ) Have been on the boards for 4 yrs. now, and in Alanon face to face meetings at 2 nearby groups. I will tell you I am living a with lower blood pressure, lower blood sugar, fewer moods! My spouse quit drinking, too. And it seems know matter what they do---a recovery program or workaholism, or new interests....it does leave us in a new and different place, and WE alanoners still need to heal. (The A usually does, too....or at least hopefully, self-improve if they choose to do so.)
My physical symptoms of stress are gone, and I have better coping skills today because of Alanon and working the 12 steps. (I also got a counselor last fall to help me with other problems I had that got mixed up with the alcoholism---marriage that went through the spin cycle!)
One day at a time, it is possible to find a better way of life ! It works if you work it!
My spouse can be sober, but we still have problems with communication, dry drunks, etc. He can be downright exhausting at times....and can leave me alone a lot with his new interests. I have chosen to stay SO FAR....I get stronger and stronger and stronger......as I continue on my path. I hope this helps.
When I realized my life was unmangeable, it really was painful, too. And, soooo confusing! I wasn't sure what to do first, second or third, and I nolonger trusted my own instincts. Here are the biggest things that helped me:
1) I started going to Alanon Meetings regularly. I rarely missed a meeting and within several months of joining I got a sponosr, a wonderful old-timer whose always just a phonecall away. I call her weekly just to talk and more often when I am confused or in crisi.s. I also used my Alanon phone list--it felt awkward to 'cold call' members first, but I wanted the connection. I bought several of the daily readers and Pathways to Recovery (a book I love! because it explains the steps, etc. so clearly and gives members ESH after each one).
2) I started reading the daily reader daily. The first week I bought it, I put tabs on the things that I needed for that week--I marked all of the self-care passages (using the index). I read them all, and started putting the things they said into practice. Whenever, I was struggling with something (anger, detachment, etc.), I used the index and read up on it. Invitably I felt calmed and found something in there to help me.
3) I started putting the program into action. When I faced a dillemma, I would consider a program way to handle it and do that. This did wonders for me! For example, since the definition of insanity is doing things over and over again with the same results, I stopped repeating my same, fruitless actions. Second, I would often list my choices in any situation, which were always much more than I thought, and pick the choice that felt best to me.
4) I started paying attention to small things I did that 'hurt' me. For example, not eating lunch or not taking enough breaks at work. Trying to have a difficult conversation at 9 p.m. at night, etc. and I stopped doing those things. I started eating when I needed to, practiced getting more sleep, and resting when I needed to. I also built in 'treats' for myself things to make me feel good.
Not everything is perfect, but overtime I have begun to feel much better--cared for, centered, and able to make sounder decisions for myself and my own life. I've been coming to Alanon since last fall, and these are changes that I implemented S-L-O-W-L-Y over the last eight or nine months.
So sorry, no magic cure, it takes much work to get off of the path you are living...how long have you been living this life.....I'm sure awhile...so you have to take the time to heal tyself...
Kelly, I totally relate, it is more than one day at a time, most of the time it is one minute at a time.
Please realize, you can only help yourself, you can in no way fix him......
I understand, the pain you feel...it is real....and it makes us sick to our stomach, also makes us want to just stay in bed......
You have to change that for yourself, and only you can accomplish this.......
If you are having trouble getting to meetings, then join the ones here they are good...the people are wonderful and caring.
Kelly just for today try this , do the exact opposite to what u normally would do in anygiven situation in other words we learn to shut up or speak up. If you would normally fight or pick an argument don't - if you would give him the cold shoulder because uwere angry greet him with a hello did u have a nice day ? and don't complian about yours.
Enjoy your twins , and do something to make u happy , I read the answers to your post the other day and all were positive with suggestions of how to make it alittle better for you , pick one and work it for awhile , come to meetings here on line and talk things out with others , You have reached out and now it's up to you . Crazy is now a choice. Al-Anon is not a quick fix , and no one working thier prog will give u advice on how to "fix it". but they will share how they figed themselves
Many have suggested finding a meeting.. One of my fav slogans is "When I got busy, I got better"
The way to get better is to not only attend meetings but to get busy working those 12 steps and applying the program to your life.
It's not a quick fix nor an easy fix by any means. It only works if you work it. Opposed to the other options I had like being miserable and feeling I was being drug down in to a murky pit... I chose to get busy and claw my way out of the pit. Little by little it happens. A lightbulb moment here and there and eventually a big awakening. You can do it, all you have to do is begin .
Christy
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These Message boards are fantastic reading tooo.... full of Experience, Strength and Hope (ES&H!)KEEP READING!! Great to know you found us! Keep Looking uP! Keep Coming Back!
oh i WISH there was a magic formula, but there is NOT....
it is all about COMITTMENT and HARD 12STEPS work, and sponser work, literature, meetings.......DAILY working the program, becuz in truth, we are learning a NEW way to live....and this works only if i work it.......
i am establishing a better relationship with me, with my hp, as i understand it, and life?? well life still pi**es me off, but i can cope better..........
28 months of BACK breaking HARD work, working the STEPS like my life depends on them cuz it does........
no magic....just plenty of hard work.....nothing good comes easily....it takes effort.....boy do i know, i feel worse since recovery , scraping off this old pain, this old anger, this old and festering rage and a ton of other emotions that i never knew i had......yeah, it hurts like hell, like REsetting a broken bone that didn't heal right.....but i know when i am through an injury i can move on to the next cuz its OVER.......
Melody Beattie has a number of great books. Personally I think she is a phenomenal writer. Her autobiography is really worth reading if you want to hear that it did get better for her it certainly did. Melody has certainly had many many many challenges as do all of us.
I came here 6 months ago with a heavy heart, like many many others totally burned to a crisp. My life now is infinitely better. Overinvolvement was my middle name. I stopped being as over involved with the A. I started to be much much more involved with me. Now I have goals, now I have things I do for me. I do not do it all for the A anymore. If I am unwell I take care of me. I no longer seethe in resentment day and night.
Do I have the wonderful life I deserve, not yet but I am on my way to it. My own recovery, not his, not anyone else's is the front of my life. Every day I focus on my goals not on what the A is doing. I think it is incredibly difficult to do at first. Yet it happens slowly sometimes quickly for some of us. If you start going to meetings and hanging out in the chat room you will meet many many wonderful people there who do live, eat breathe al-anon you will see how they do it. Eventually you will start learning how to do things like work the steps, detach, not argue, deal with resentments, focus on you.
Here are some things that have helped me since in the program.
Go face to face meeting & online meeting.
post on the board here on the site. I have gotten a lot of good feed back.
· In this program u learn that u have choices. In Alanon we don’t give advice but only suggestions.
· Set support system. people do not judge. You need someone who can go for coffee on a bad day, or pick up a phone and call when in trouble. The support is what is important when you first this program.
Have a sponsor. Someone work one on one with you.
You don’t have to do this the minute u come to the program but I suggest that u do it when u can. It help.
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Hey everyone watch me grow. I go thru good & bad times. each day i am getting stronger.