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This just has to be test from my hp I just know it lol. I applied for a healthcare related job last week but had not thoroughly researched before sending my application. It seems addiction is trending and my interview is with someone in the medical professional who is offering an alternative to our 12 steps, doesn't believe in talk therapy and relies on pharmaceuticals as the method for attaining and keeping sober. The medical professional says that they believe addiction is a disease and needs to be treated this way for a lifetime. I believe there at times coexisting disorders and medication has it's purpose but to completely dismiss the value of fellowship of sharing and bonding with those who relate? I've read through this doctor's website. There's not much to speak to their credibility yet this doctor has gotten air time and and discredited traditional rehabs and no doubt desperate people are spending hard earned money and placing trust and giving authority to this person. Just one of the things doctor suggests is that you cut back on your drinks over time.
OK ... it's none of my business I know. People have the right to make their own choices about what they feel is best for them. I took a look at the fees and a person could go broke! The office is in one of the most well known, coolest buildings. So, I just needed to share this with you to get clarity because I'm planning to cancel my interview with this doctor and their marketing person. I don't feel inclined to try to change anybody's mind. It's not the job I'm looking for. Live and Let Live. I can add a blog if I choose in response to their nationwide appearance and their theories and keep the remaining fifty five minutes I would have spend at the interview for myself. Thanks for letting me share. TT
-- Edited by tiredtonite on Tuesday 10th of February 2015 02:40:05 AM
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Good for you tt. You are one couragous woman. I agree totally with your feelings on this. I wouldnt be able to stick that job one minute either. I love your take on it, if you do start that blog let me know.
I think it would be pretty easy to make a lot of money especially if you were able to bill insurance companies treating a disease that has very little hope of ever being cured.. and think if your telling alcoholics what they want to hear ( you can stop drinking by cutting back, there is a pill that will cure your problems, you don't have to do the work of looking at your responsibilities etc.) WOW what a gold mine!
We stumbled across something similar when looking for treatment for my ex. He of course left the program before he even began as that was one of his "things" me making and appointment and paying for something I thought he would participate in (al anon ish for sure) and then he finds some excuse or even without an excuse he just stops. Wow they really don't like our "help" sometime anyway.. I got no response to my phone calls requesting even part of a refund of the several hundred dollars that was required to start the program..
There are scams in everything in life, HP has something better for you I'm sure! Thanks for sharing... gosh there are so many similar themes to every body's story here in the al anon world.
-- Edited by glad on Tuesday 10th of February 2015 03:25:22 PM
Wait, what there is no magic cure or pill for alcoholism? Darnit you mean like everything else it takes hard work and determination, geez this disease just keeps getting worse! Okay, I shouldn't joke about it, but to me it just makes sense that you can't go away to some vacation resort like the one in California (btw I want to go! and am not an A) and come back without a problem. Life just doesn't work this way and I have no understanding how anyone thinks that it could possibly work without any real digging or effort. My Mom, Dad, brother, cousins and other family members and exAH used alcohol to self medicate and other times just drugs and all it taught me was they refused to deal with themselves thus staying backed up in dysfunction and oozing it on everyone around them. I decided to break these cycles and it is anything but easy. I have had to be diligent and work hard inside and out to keep myself growing and shedding the dysfunctions from my FOO. Al-anon and counseling have helped me to get through the abuse in my childhood and there was plenty of it, al-anon helped me take a big long look in the mirror and guess what I didn't like what I saw, so I am in the process of and have done the work to get to where I want to be and continue to move towards being a healthier person. I am a single Mom, putting myself through nursing school, I have a job and find time for healthy outlets to keep my head on straight. It isn't easy and I know anything worth it never is. Onward and upward al-anon family. Sending you all love and support on your journey's!
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It sounds to me that after the alcoholic takes the "magic pill" that he would just be a dry drunk..... and we all know how delightful they are!! It is not treating the underlying psychological or emotional or spiritual illness that is alcoholism.
Well...there is some legitimacy to it. Drugs like vivitrol and naltrexone do cut cravings, but they will never work without some sort of cognitive/behavioral change and probably some spiritual healing as well. I do understand that in order for some of these new anti-craving drugs to work, the person is supposed to drink some while taking them to begin with and that is what kicks the aversive power of the drug into gear until the reward they get from drinking decreases and they no longer crave it or even feel good from it.
Nonetheless, I feel like I can pretty much factually state that a far progressed and serious alcoholic will just stop taking the med, stash it when they want to get hammered, drink right overtop of it...Pretty much all the same problems as antibuse but the drugs are slightly more innovative and they do have some value.