The material presented
here is not Al-Anon Conference Approved Literature. It is a method
to exchange
information, ideas, feelings, problems and solutions on a personal
level.
The last f2f meeting I went to was in South Dakota. There was something good going on there and I went to three. Full meetings, vibrant, and there was a local Lakota presence. I could relate because I live in a rural town backing onto two small provincial cities.
After one meeting one member came up and talked with me about "Girl Talk'. We have this in our area too. [Not for men, of course!] It is an outside issue, or supposed to be....
...I have been in Alanon 33 years, and with a small local group would have been expected to be group rep 2 or three times over. I always went to assemblies and supported an assembly in my home town [with my group] a few times. At the end i did become GR and that was fine- but there was a sense that I shouldn't be there, because i was a man.
When I came along here I thought maybe MIP Alanon had a hotline to Alanon WSO and would be able to troubleshoot group issues. Not so of course! The only issues I can troubleshoot here are my own, of course.
I did talk about my GOO, my group of origin, and I found that helpful. It gave me the boundaries I needed, to go on with...
...as I have shared before my sponsor was a woman, but hubby did all the hard work. He formed an open steps group, and we worked through both the AA and the Alanon 12x12 any number of times...
...But working the traditions take experience. every situation is a little different. It always comes down to a personal conscience, and handing over to a higher power in the end.
My sponsor quit Alanon and got on with the rest of her life- her choice... I chose to be a lifetime member. I am not surprised that there is little or no Alanon in the whole of Scotland. This is an old Scottish province in NZ- Alanon is very thin on the ground...
...there are reasons for this... and most of them are beyond our control...
Thanks so much for this share, David. So much here that you and I hold in common - except maybe for the man part, the NZ or Scotland part - those 3 things are very different to my way of seeing. Grin.
I love your sound reasoning. You sound strong and thoughtful.
My grandmother was Lakota Sioux, grew up on a res in S. Dakota. I wish she had lived longer so I knew more about her history. She was very loving to me, as was gpa.
I never understood where all some of my being so different came from until I studied Native American Lit, Anthropology, Art and History and Herstory. It pains me to see trees being cut down, I always respected animals and thanked them for giving their lives. so many things.
Anyway I am glad you have strong connections to Al Anaon. You bring such a sense of being solid to the board. hugs
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"It's not so much being loved for ourselves, but more for being loved in spite of ourselves."
Thanks David Next go around on the Step Board I am gong to start discussing the 12 Traditions I believe that these Traditions keep us for committing Homicide and the 12 Steps keep us from suicide.
Please join in
DAVID "But working the traditions take experience. every situation is a little different. It always comes down to a personal conscience, and handing over to a higher power in the end."
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AMEN, brother David.....it all boils down to how i am working my program, checking in w/me, doing step 10 DAILY and what i don't understand, i ask....what i do and maybe still disagree with or have differning view???? I let it go to my higher Power.......I 100% agree with you........Love reading you xo
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Live and let live and do it with peace and goodwill to all!!!!
My grandmother was Lakota Sioux, grew up on a res in S. Dakota. I wish she had lived longer so I knew more about her history. She was very loving to me, as was gpa.
I never understood where all some of my being so different came from until I studied Native American Lit, Anthropology, Art and History and Herstory. It pains me to see trees being cut down, I always respected animals and thanked them for giving their lives. so many things.
so THIS is why we are similiar in that we love mother earth, i hate to see trees cut down too, and i hold animals in reverence........
I am 1/2 cherokee/shawnee on my mother's side........the other one was french and german...50-50 mix.....
so HUGS, fellow native amer......I wish we had pow wows here but with the OK res. just up north of me (my relatives are now gone from there, as work is so bad, so i can't find anymore of my old relatives) we don't have pow wow's here......sure were fun when i did go to them in the NE.........
i wear moccasins, natural products on my body, i am VERY native in my ways, my body structure...my eyes are dark, if i didn't have this blonde hair, i would look more so....but oh well......
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Live and let live and do it with peace and goodwill to all!!!!
Betty I've never heard both of those statements made at the same time. Of course from experience I relate to the statement on the steps because that is what happened for me and I'm nodding at the statement on the traditions because I haven't heard of or witnessed or come to commit the other. LOL...still learning (((((hugs)))))