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Is he an Alcoholic? What do you think?


This is my first time visiting Al-Anon of any type.  I have been married to my husband for four years and the whole time my Mom and Dad have told me that they believe he is an alcoholic and that I should check out Al-Anon.  

I don't want to be in any type of denial and I want to know for sure if he is an alcoholic so I at least know what I am dealing with so I can make some decisions.

My husband is a great person but he does drink quite a bit.  When he does drink, that is basically the only time we end up getting in a fight.  When not drinking he is sweet, loving and rational.  When drinking and we have a fight, he is calling me names, saying he wants a divorce, blaming me for everything, yelling at the top of his lungs, etc.  I can't stand it.  We have three kids by the way and he doesn't care who is around when he yells.

Tonight we went out with friends and I let him drink so I could drive us home (although he kept pressuring me to drink).  He was starting to be obnoxious as he got drunk so after we left I made a comment about how I was irritated and could he please take it down a notch.  He got instantly pissed, started yelling and screaming, was saying I should move out and pack my s** (although he said I was the world's best wife yesterday).  When we got home, he hopped in his own car, sped out and yelled at the top of his lungs "this is your fault, go f**** yourself".  I'm sure the neighbors heard.  He drove 5 plus miles to get a bottle of Jack Daniels because our house was dry.  When he got home he told me just to admit I was sorry.  I didn't at first.  He then got into saying how we was done with this relationship, I ruined his fun time with friends, he was sick of trying, he can't make me happy blah blah blah.  He slammed my laptop shut on my fingers.  I got in my car and left for awhile.  Got home and he is telling me I am beautiful and trying to be sweet.  It is like dealing with someone bipolar.  This happens quite frequently (once every week or two) and only from my observations when he is drinking.

He drinks from Friday night through Sunday night.  He tries not to drink too much during the week because he is pretty functional and a higher up in the military.  In his work culture they are all heavy drinkers and it is everywhere.  It would be weird if someone didn't drink.  

I don't care for drinking much at all with the exception of a small glass of wine or champagne.  Being around alcohol a lot really bothers me.  I cannot stand the yelling and cursing and name calling when he drinks.  I worry about how it is affecting the kids.  He is never late for work and doesn't sleep all day or anything.  He actually enjoys having a hangover and will get up just as early as I do.  Another thing that bothers me is that we cannot go on a date without him getting plastered.  I can't stand it.  I feel like it is only going to get worse over time.  I want to get out of this relationship if things aren't going to change.  I feel like he will never stop drinking.  He gets pissed when I say he might be an alcoholic.  I don't want to live in denial.  I can handle the truth if I hear it. Would appreciate advice and help determining if he is alcoholic or abuser.  

 



-- Edited by hotrod on Tuesday 25th of March 2014 07:23:32 AM

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Hi, Holly: If his drinking bothers you and others around him, Al-Anon face to face meetings will be a great help to you. As a rule, I don't call somebody an alcoholic. To me, that's up to them to decide. I do know when somebody is drinking excessively and that it bothers me. We suggest attending at least 6 meetings before you decide if Al-Anon is for you. It can be a big help for anybody troubled by a loved ones' drinking. Please come back here, too. We understand the ways this disease affects us and the many abuses we can suffer at the hands of people who drink too much.

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I am so glad you found us and had the courage to share your story. Believe me it is so typical, it hurts!

Al Anon can help us to stop wondering about him and his disease, and look at our own life.Because their drama is so drastic, abusive, and dangerous,we tend to forget to be aware of our part in it.

Meaning here you are with 3 precious kids with a raging, dangerous problem drinker or addict, does not matter, hurts the same. So look at how you feel, are you happy, are you guys safe? That was how I would look at it. When it was not safe, i had to ask him to leave.

This is so disasterous to kids. they go from being very frightened, insecure, blaming themselves, and learning this is how a relationship is since they learn from yours.

I invite you to see if there is meeting near you. Also there are meetings here at MIP. We recommend many good books and other literature. Come here share, vent, ask questions.

the sad thing is it will get so much worse. It is a disease that destroys the A or addict in every way, and dribbles or pours down onto us.

they will seem to be so nice when not drinking. But as most say it is a roller coaster ride. Gradually the disease is damaging their body, every cell in it. They do not think at all correctly honey because their brains are horribly compromised. Our bodies are mostly water. A's fill theirs with alcohol, so no way can they work right in any way. Plus they basically are drunk or have alcohol in their system for awhile satuarated in cells.Or many cells have been damaged, again so the body cannot work correctly. So of course over time and age, things get so much worse.

Al Anon has many slogans, 12 steps, many things to help you get started. Then once you feel better, you will be able to make those decisions with knowledge and skills.

Please know there is no sense listening or putting any weight to what he says. It is from a totally not in control brain.

also we cannot stop them from drinking, to engage in the sanity only hurts us.

Please keep coming, we do care very much.  



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You pretty much described a lot of how I used to act before I went to AA and sobered up. A non alcoholic would cut back or give up the booze at all the signs of trouble you mentioned and if their spouse brought it up.

For the purposes of Alanon his label doesn't matter that much. You getting support and help for you matters more. As far as it being unusual for someone to not drink in certain settings or contexts, what happens with alcoholics over time is that the way they drink and act when they do becomes even more weird and less normal so sobriety ideally becomes more appealing that trying to do 1 thing to fit in (drink) that causes you to not fit in in even more ways (argue, fight, can't have peaceful and fun free time without booze, just growing into a mess more and more over time). He might never get better but you could make your life better with Alanon regardless.

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Welcome HMK

I glad you found us. In the end what do you think about his drinking? If you don't like it or you have a problem and it effecting your life then it doesn't matter if he's a alcoholic or not.


He is going to drink or he's not......What are you going to do??

Keep coming back because you are not alone...

((( hugs )))

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Just based on the fact that you are asking the question, and what you have shared here with us, I venture to say, you already know the answer. Now it is time to move into the arena of Acceptance, no longer allowing yourself to live in a world of denial, and stay close to Al-Anon as you learn, grow and heal from the adverse effects of loving an alcoholic. You can get well, you can heal, you can find peace and serenity regardless of whether the alcoholic does or doesn't stop drinking. I can only suggest that when it comes to physical violence.. and yes, that is exactly what slamming the lid of a laptop on your fingers equate to, it will only get worse instead of better with an untreated alcoholic. It is very important you learn of proper ways to protect yourself, maintain your safety and how to establish and enforce your personal boundary space. There is a code for those who physically violate your well being.. its' 911.

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Welcome to MIP.
You've had some great input from the previous posters here.
I spent a long time worrying about whether my husband was an alcoholic and then it became clear that the answer was yes, he did have a problem with alcohol and knowing this gave me reason to excuse behaviour that I would not put up with from a sober person. I regret that. For me it became important that I simply looked at my husbands behaviour. Was his behaviour something that I could live with? When I first went to alanon I recognised some of my own behaviour in the others that I met there and it helped me to understand my situation so much better. When I took the actions that felt right for me, it turned out that they also helped my husband. To quote what a girlfriend said to me when I was complaining about AH's blaming me for his drinking 'Milkwood, who else's fault could it possibly be?'
Well done about not living in denial.

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