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Time for some internal housekeeping. Scary.




There are men that are just bad men drinking or not and no amount of reasoning will help.

You had the misfortune of marrying one. I always remind myself that the "Its always darkest before the dawn."

Glad you reached out for support, it can get lonely when fighting a battle that seems never ending.

Believe that nothing goes on forever and have faith that everything will work out. Sometimes the battle against this type of man will only injure yourself and you will need to witdraw at sometime.

My first husband was an evil man who took my daughter and hid her for many years till I thought I would go crazy.

Finally I had to withdraw from the sanity that he created for me and walk my own path untill eventually my daughter sought me out.

These men derive pleasure out of causing suffering to women, they are woman haters. What happens if Karmic retribution doesnt happen in this lifetime?

Take care of you!
Keep coming back

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-- Edited by Bettina on Sunday 22nd of September 2013 12:05:12 PM

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Hi everyone

 

i have posted here a couple of times and find myself frequently seeking comfort and learning on these pages. 

So here I am again, and that can only mean there's been yet another drama with the ABH. Promises, promises. All broken. I kicked him out of the house a month ago after his abuse went beyond being directed at me, but started to be vented at the children and my mother. Obscenities, threats, and knives being waved around. 

He promised he would stop drinking, because HE wants to, he wants a family and he wants to be loved.  He lasted a month. I knew what was coming but said nothing, the little lies, the growing agitation, the bubbling rage and overt aggression growing all the time within him. Last night he went on a binge and now it's all over for me and he knows it. He is raging again, threatening and vicious. No contact from now, it's over, I don't need this.

He has only one way to go, and that is down. He is 52 years old, a full blown alcoholic for 35 years, a string of devastated lives behind him. No real friends, just drinking buddies. His own kids are lost to him. Divorced twice because of his serial drinking and adultery. He is a corporate lawyer, and has lost many jobs because of the drinking. He is violent and beats people up when drunk. He suffers from memory loss, and slurs his words when sober, his muscles are wasting away. And yet, Jekyll/Hyde, some of the time he is super-intelligent, loving, committed and thoughtful. 

How did I get here. That is my job now, to be alone and understand how I have allowed this to happen to my family.

My own life, like that of so many here is a catalogue of fear, abandonment and betrayal. My childhood was spent in war-torn countries, moving every three years, living in some of the poorest countries in the world. Earthquakes, hurricanes, shootings, civil war, uncertainty and fear left me with PTSD and a desperate sub-conscious quest for someone to protect me. I met my XH at University and spent 20 years working very hard and building a successful business and a seemingly secure life. When I was 30, my father had a massive stroke that left him paralyzed and mute. it revealed a secret life of debt and affairs that left me, my sister and my mother devastated, traumatised and destitute. He lived another 18 years entirely dependant on my mother and I, and died suddenly and horrifically in our arms 3 years ago. It has destroyed my mother who was only 50 at the time of the stroke, totally screwed her up.

My XH in the meantime, has turned out to be a cruel, vicious narcissist whose favourite hobby is to obliterate me. it all started when I got pregnant with my first, and was bed-ridden for 9 months with severe hyperemesis. I vomited every time I moved. XH disappeared. He hated me, my helplessness, my weakness. He would leave early in the morning and come back late at night. After my daughter was born, I went on to have a miscarriage, and then a son, all with extreme sickness, married to a man who despised me and beat me up while pregnant and in front of the kids. I kicked him out when the children were 1 and 3 after finding out he was having an affair with one of our employees who is 20 years younger than him. In the last 8 years he has used every ploy imaginable to torture me. We are now divorced, but it took 7 years, he refused to engage with the legal process, while cutting me and the children off from friends and family and starving us out of the matrimonial home, and forcing me out of the business. The children and I are now homeless, penniless and about to go to court again.

i have found very recently out that in the last 5 years he has embezzled £500,000 from our businesses and not paid tax on it. He has committed massive fraud that has put me at risk too. He lied in the financial declaration of the divorce and has spent moneys that legally were mine. A mess. 

3 years after XH left, after being alone and licking my wounds I met a man who spent two years conning me out of all my savings and setting up an elaborate fraud for which i have ended up endebted for the next 10 years.

So, a pattern of serious ongoing abuse, from the XH who has put me and the children on the street, and penniless, (we are going to need help from the state for housing and survival), to the psychopath who saw my vulnerability and fleeced me, and the alcoholic nutcase who wriggled into our lives promising salvation under the guise of being a lawyer. 

I get it....they can spot the terror in my eyes and they move in for the kill. I have spent the last 10 years bringing up my babies in an emotional nuclear war zone. Making mistake after mistake, in permanent fight-or-flight mode, living as refugees, damaging me and my children more and more with every fatal choice I make. I didn't know it, i was doing the best I could. I was raised with old-fashioned values, and I tell the truth and I behave properly. I cannot for the life of me see the bad guys out there until they have beaten me so hard I cannot ignore it.

All this is very very bad news, you don't emerged unscathed. I have treatment for PTSD and Complex PTSD, and a year in therapy. 

I feel like total crap. I am highly educated, and there was a time when there was nothing I couldn't do. Nothing prepared me for the battering of the last 10 years. I want to die so badly, it's like an alcoholic giving up drinking, I go one day at a time, one breath at a time, thinking of my 10 and 12 year old needing their mother. If it wasn't for them I'd be gone by now. It's a fight to stay alive.



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While looking at some other posts, I read about the Victim Triangle. Homework right there!

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I hope you will go to a domestic violence sheeles and see if they can asset you. Ii they can't they will direct you to place that can. Most states have programs that will automatically deduct support. In my case the courts have done that ... he's still behind at least its something. Sending you lots of love and support.

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So much trauma and loss for you and for your family for such an extended period of time. It must look and feel to you as if nothing will ever get better and you will never feel better. I see some genuine strengths in your post. You are a survivor. You are tenacious. You are strong. You are smart. You are perceptive. You are wise. You are willing to make changes. You admit you need help. You don't give up. You are patient. You are forgiving. Your heart is still open as evidenced in your concern for your children and for your Mother and their welfare as well as your own. There are probably even more assets than what I see in your post? I'm suspecting that you probably have a very good sense of humor and there are times when you can see the roses even though the bushes have thorns?

There is hope for you. There is hope for your family. Given all that you have endured and survived, it appears to me that you also have been guided by a power greater than yourself who has helped you through so much of this poisonous existence. One thing I know: some of the strongest, most beautiful trees and flowering plants grow strong roots in harsh conditions and are fertilized with manure or decaying matter.

I don't know what part of the world you live in, but I do know that in addition to psychiatric treatment, domestic assault counseling, and doing more that has a positive result for you even if that doing is as simple as baking your favorite cake from scratch, Al-Anon face to face meetings will help you meet people who have been through multiple traumas themselves and have survived. They learn in Al-Anon now how to thrive and not just survive. Checking in your local area for the times and locations of Al-Anon meetings and going can help you learn how to work through the past, avoid more trauma, live in peace and help others who join the program when you're ready just by sharing your own experiences, strength and hope.

Welcome to the MIP family. You're safe here. You're in the right place. Keep coming back.

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THANK YOU....first of all thank you.

I have many blessings, two beautiful children for whom I am grateful every second of the day, for one. I live in the United Kingdom, btw.
And yes I also have my own HP, a deep seated instinctive knowledge that there is a reason for everything, some of us are tested to extremes because the prize at the end is worthy of our trials and tribulations. I believe I have a guardian angel who looks after me and the kids. Some of us are good, flawed, but good, and we have the gift of a HP protecting us. Karma will get the bad ones...

It's the daily grind. That obfuscates the way forward...the head fog too. I'm 49. I can still do it all over again. I'm exhausted, almost defeated but not quite, still breathing because of children. Now I have to remember me.

I have been to a couple of ALANON meetings. I am in a rural community so it's one meeting a week, in the evening so I have to get childcare. I am reading a lot on this forum that is helping me to understand. I will stand on my own two feet and learn from all this, it will take a while, but one could look at it as an exciting gift in self-awareness and healing.

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Dear Sun

Welcome  I am so sorry that you are in such pain but have been there and os understand.  You are not alone.

I am glad that you found us and  reached out . Alanon is a fellowship of men and women, who live with or have lived with the problem of alcoholism.    Alcoholism is a  progresssive fatal disease that we did not cause cannot control and cannot cure  The best we can do to our families  is seek recovery program for ourselves.  I am glad you have at least one alanon meeting to attend  We also have on line meetings here that are truly a life saver. 

I urge you to review the two "Sticky's" found at the top of the Board  One describes the promises of alanon STICKY: THE PROMISES OF ALANON

 

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and the other  the disease concept of alcoholism   STICKY: Why Alcoholism is "categorized

Please keep coming back



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We have on-line meetings, too, twice a day. Good place to supplement your weekly meetings. You are going to be a great help to many, many people as you follow through on the help that is being revealed to you and walking through doors opening for you. Nothing you have suffered will be in vain if you continue on the road of healing. Keep coming back, sister. You are now part of our family.

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Never came across alcoholism till now. What a terrifying disease. It may be inappropriate to say it here, but it looks like living hell from the outside.i admire all of you who gained sobriety, what immense strength you have.

Recovery for everyone who is self-aware enough to want to battle the demons and be a better person, is an ongoing quest. It's a shame we have to hurt so much, all of us for our different reasons, on the long road we travel.

It takes courage to say I NEED HELP, I CANNOT DO IT ALONE, and to open hearts and minds to accept our flaws.

I have to say my experience with my ABF has put me off alcohol for life. I have never been a drinker, and only indulge rarely, but I now can't even look at the stuff without feeling dread.




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Welcome to MIP! You're in the right place.

So many of us have been in similar situations and understand that living with someone who has the disease of addiction can be much too much for us to handle alone. Here, we support each other as we work the 12 steps and principles of Alanon. Read and learn all you can about alcoholism; it's a very cunning, baffling, and powerful disease! Go to meetings and get a sponsor to start working the steps. (Being in touch with another Alanon member is my quickest way to the direction of due north of hope and sanity.)

Continue to make sure that you and your children are safe; have a few safety plans and alternate safety plans. Your local battered women's shelter may also be another resource.

I'm not sure if this is at all relevant, but I'd like to mention it in case there is something that you can do to protect yourself- so please take what you like and leave the rest- my exAH embezzled money from his own business and blamed me for it. I didn't see that one coming.

Be gentle with you and keep coming back.

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Hi Bud

An ongoing soap opera with the ex husband. He isn't an alcoholic, he is completely mad though. Truly vicious. Where he gets the inspiration and energy to be so evil baffles me. Takes pleasure in harming me and the children. Really weird.

Nothing nothing nothing will ever surprise me. He has technically already blamed me by putting half of the tax evasion in my name while we were still married. It took 7 years to finally get the divorce and now I know why... He was stashing money away and laundering it. Already been to court once about this, more to come in the next couple of months.

Nothing surprises me because as his favourite mantra goes: ITS ALL YOUR FAULT, YOU ARE EVI, A BAD MOTHER, YOU DESTROY EVERTHING. Hmmm, I know when I get to him, with all my fighting back and daring to take him to court FOR STEALING HIS CHILDREN's money.

Karma do your thing...and hurry, it's been a loooonnnnggg time coming....

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Just sending you virtual hugs and support, sun. You are not alone and I hope that you continue to come back and reach out here and at Al Anon meetings, even if it's only once a week. The support from folks at meetings is huge and has helped me realize that I'm not the only one who thinks they're going crazy, LOL. Hang in there!

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Aloha Sun Sun...seriously it is a miracle that you are still alive or not incarcerated in a mental institution.   Turn around and look back and think survivor.  Although there are some differences in all of our stories it is the similarities which weld us together and have us supporting each other and finding real recovery in our programs.  I was told in early recovery that if I kept coming back someday I would hear someone else tell my story exactly as I lived it and over the years I have been in the program that has happened more than once.

We are all survivors and have ESH...Experiences Strengths and Hopes to share with you.  For me when the alcoholism includes perverse behaviors including physical violence and threats of fatal harm and as a former alternatives to violence case manager and purpetrator of violence myself I suggest that you find safe shelter (which has already been suggested) and protection by Public Safety departments.  Drunk is one thing, drunk and deadly is another margin.  Do not hesitate on that.  If he has physically harmed you as he has mentally and emotionally I personally apologize for that. You don't deserve that...no one does and you deserve to protect yourself and your children at all cost.

You have had a long long journey of negativity and are still here.  That courage and strength will take you a long way and as you learn what we have learned, will help you to help others survive also.

Welcome here...keep coming back...Thank you for your courage to change the things you can.   In support.  ((((hugs)))) smile



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smile ma'am... what a story...! We do look for the similarities and not the differences. We are all in the same boat.

My Hp nudged me- I do not often do this- it breaks some of the Alanon rules. But take this as a possible coffee-time chat after a meeting. What you describe resonated with this book I read. I could not put it down!

I am biassed because Marianne is a countrywoman of mine...

http://www.examiner.com/review/zen-under-fire-a-beautiful-informative-memoir

take care out there,

DavidG. aww



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Thank you everyone, each word of support is another soothing and healing step forward...

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