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So conflicted


I am new to this message board.  Reading some of the posts here is the first time I haven't felt like I am alone in so long.  Not that I wish this chaos on any of you, but it sure does help to know that there are people who get it.

I have been dealing with my A for 13 years to varying degrees.  We have a child together.  We've been together 4 years this time around, and most of it has been on this roller coaster with his alcoholism/addiction.  During that time, he also had cancer.  He's now in remission, but has gone right back to using and drinking.  I was not sure how I could sum up all that has happened in a post, then read some of yours and realized I don't really need to.  It seems like everyone on here understands the lying, the manipulation, the scheming, the broken promises, the anger, the disappointments, and the overall mayhem that comes along with loving an addict.

Last week, my A nearly overdosed on cocaine. It really scared him to the point where he's seeking help.  I should be happy that he is trying to sober up, but mostly I am exhausted and angry and depleted. I feel like this last time was the last straw for me, but I can't seem to end it.  I'll make the decision that I can't keep putting myself and our daughter through this, decide to end it, then I don't.  I swore to myself that if it happened one more time, that would be it, yet we're still here.  I love him, but despise him all at the same time.  I don't trust him at all.  I want him to leave so we can move on with our lives, but I don't.  I want to believe that he is serious about getting sober this time, but recognize that the odds are against it.  I never realized it was possible to have such a love/hate relationship with someone.  I ran out of compassion! 

Do any of you have advice?  Similar experiences?  I have spent so many years trying to buffer this situation for our daughter, working, and helping him.  This is really the first time I am owning my own feelings about all of this, and I am finding it completely overwhelming.  I am committed to ending this craziness, whether it means he gets sober and stays that way, or my daughter and I move on, I just don't know which one.  How do you sort through it all?  How long do you hang in there? 

-Kris



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Dear Kris
Welcome to Miracles in Progress I am so glad that you found us and had the courage to share. As you have discovered You are not alone .
 
Alcoholism is a painful progressive disease . It can be treated but never cured. We who live with this disease become seriously affected and need our own program of recovery Alanon is that program .
 
We have face to face meeting in most communities Please check the white pages for the local inter group number and call. It is at meetings that I broke the isolation caused by this disease, regained my self esteem, my self respect and found the courage, and wisdom to make healthy choices for my life.
Please keep coming back here as well.   You are worth it.


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Hi Kris, and thank you for sharing.

My only advice I would give is to get yourself into some face-to-face meetings. For me, that's where the real healing began. It was important to surround myself with people who understood and start developing a network of friends with whom I could be in contact regularly if things got crazy. I eventually found a sponsor and started working the steps with her, too, and that was a huge help, too. The general suggestion is to attend at least six meetings as close together as possible so you can get a good feel for different groups and find something that fits you well and get a clearer picture of how Al-Anon works.

You might also want to get your hands on some of the printed materials. Many groups will have free hand-outs or beginner's packets stuffed with brochures that can be helpful. There is also an incentive with our book called "How Al-Anon Works" that comes in a paperback version that some groups are either giving out for free or selling for a reduced cost. That book contains the core information on Al-Anon. (Note that the deal is for the paperback version, not hardcover.)

You can locate a meeting near you by visiting the Al-Anon WSO web site: http://al-anon.alateen.org/how-to-find-a-meeting

I can relate with you on the waffling... saying "I've had enough! No more!" and then still finding myself not doing anything to change my circumstances. I know my waffling was always based in fear... I was always fearful that if I left the A then I wouldn't be able to support myself... or that he'd hate me and we'd never talk again... or that my friends and family would judge me, or HIS friends and family would judge me... I had to work through a lot of those fears and finally come to a point of understanding and trust with a power greater than myself. It wasn't until I finally knew deep down that my Higher Power had my back and that no matter what, I'd be okay, that I finally decided to take decisive actions in my life that would change it for the better.

Hope you get to some meetings. Keep coming back. :)

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similar experience yep. the more you read and share in meetings (if you do) the more you will think others are sharing your story. 12 years here. I Never could walk away either. I was powerless in part because I felt like I knew him my whole life. Turns out, I did .. I knew the behavior. There were a lot of feelings in this connected to my past. It was like having to relive and This time Feel all the abandonment of a lifetime. I was Addicted to His chaotic excitement because it was the only thing that made me feel like I had any life in me. I was depleted long before He even came along if I'm honest with myself. I do realize I love him, and there are times I miss him; however, I am finally reaching a point where the pain of being out is much less than the pain of being in. For me, in order to survive this, I needed 3 meetings a week, a great sponsor with similar experience, speaker meetings, literature, etc.. I just don't know of Any other way to Truly move forward in my thinking, etc .. we have a daughter too and it's rough. The thing about his getting recovery, it's a thinking disease so behaviors do not change for awhile until they are Sincerely doing the same as above.. In alanon, however, they recommend waiting 6 months or even better until After working step 5 before making a major decision to stay or to leave. The ironic thing in this is He was the one to finally leave, but I see it today. The steps talk about a higher power doing for us what we can't do for our selves. After 12 years of Both of us being powerless to truly leave, he left and I knew that I knew that I knew it was done. I felt a power I had never felt before and knew HP had to have a hand in it. I don't know what the future will bring but I can see much clearer being out right now; it was toxic and I was absolutely filled with resentments. Beginning to realize as much as I want to be with him, I don't want to continue to choose chaos now that I've had the taste and feel of serenity and clear thinking.

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don't know how old your daughter is, but eventually she may need alateen .. Great program .. They need sanity around them Just as much as we do although they don't have the Same type of connection we do. It's so hard with spouses, partners, I know the pain, anger, grief, confusion, fear, you name it !


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Welcome Kris

This is the best time to let go and let God take over. The best thing you could do for him is nothing. If he truly wants recovery he will seek it out. He doesn't need you to help him. You need to get yourself into recovery so you have the tools to live with your A if that is what you want.

Take care and keep coming back...you are not alone


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Welcome. I grew up with both of parents drinking. When you are a child you think this is normal. It was years later that I knew that this was not normal. I married my high school sweetheart. All was good until he became 21 and started drinking. It was 5 years of pure hell. I did not have the tools to deal with it so I did not. We ended up divorced and I met my husband on a blind date a year later. We have been together for 36 years. My husband was forced into an early retirement 8 1/2 years ago. He was lucky with his age and years he could retire. Many were not that lucky. It was very hard for him to go from working at a job he loved to having too much time on his hands. He started drinking. We never were even social drinkers so it was a surprise to me. I saw him change before my eyes. Flash forward to present...two DUI's in 13 months of each other, fines, attorney fees, classes once a week for a year, probation, no license for over five years, two alcohol poisons (ambulance, hospitalization for the second one), lies, lies and more lies. Right now he has been sober for two months. I still check to see if there is vodka and I have been pretty good about keeping my comments to myself. Al-Anon has the tools to teach us and it has helped so much. I found this site in February and am on it everyday. I also go to face to face meetings. My first meeting I felt like a million pounds had been lifted from my shoulders. All of the people in the room were dealing with the same thing. I did not feel alone. Unless a person has dealt with addiction no one has a clue. I tend to isolate myself but when I found Al-Anon I started to feel better about myself and started to become more social. I really have no idea what the future will hold for us. Love is not enough and I know that. I am scared of living this way for the rest of my life and I am scared of being alone. I take it one day at a time and sometimes one minute at a time. I can look back and see how I have changed and really to me that is what matters. As people from Al-Anon say if the alcoholic is going to drink they are going to drink. There is nothing we can do about it.  It is time for us to take care of ourselves.  Keep coming back, go to the online meetings, face to face meetings and read as much as you can about addiction.  It all helps.



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