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I think you've chosen to save yourself some anxiety. He may ask you when he starts snooping for your keys again if you hid them or accuses you of doing that and a simple, "Yes," to me is a way of showing him you can set a boundary that you can enforce because you've done it. That may provoke name-calling, etc - I don't know, but you'll have peace of mind knowing you did what you could to protect yourself and maybe other people. It's your car. It's your insurance. It's your financial well-being. And it's your peace of mind at stake. You have a right and a responsibility to safeguard your well-being no matter what he thinks about it. And obviously, he doesn't think about it in a way that is sane or responsible or caring towards you. Things may change in the future and you can make a whole new decision, but for now - you're doing the next right thing for you.
-- Edited by grateful2be on Monday 10th of June 2013 07:26:25 PM
This is an unspoken boundary, mainly because it's against the law for AH to do what he did anyway. I went away for the weekend and AH found my spare key and drove my car this past weekend. I always write down the mileage when I go away, it's been a habit of mine for a year now and yes, there have been other times when he's driven my car. The issue is that his name is not on my car and that it's illegal for him to drive any car without an interlock device. Basically, I'd be held responsible for anything he did while driving that car as well as having the car impounded for 30 days, fines, loss of insurance, etc. My question is: do I confront him? I was thinking of just approaching him like this, "Can I ask you a favor? Please do NOT drive my car while I'm gone anymore. I'm not OK with it and neither would the police be, either." Is that fair? I don't want to go all 'motherly' on him but I do feel that I need to at least express my request and let him know this. Now, many folks in Al Anon would say that 'well, he already knows that you don't want him to do it, why tell him?' But, I feel that I need to at least let him know I am concerned and that I know about the behavior. Thoughts? Is this too codependent or is it a decent boundary setting?
Hi. Although you could try to verbally set a boundary with him, I'm not sure that will bring you the result you'd like given my own experience with my As. What if you don't leave a spare key at home or anyplace he can get to it? When it comes to my financial well being, I'm more for the "no talk, all action" method of boundary setting. But, that's me.
I like the Al-Anon saying, "Say what you mean, mean what you say, don't say it mean." Calmly express what your concern is, how it affects or could affect you and what you will do if he does it again, and then follow through so it is not an idle threat. Just my opinion. Take what you like, and leave the rest. : )
Telling him it upsets you is not going to accomplish anything. When you state a boundary, you have to be prepared to back it up. That would be "If you drive my car when I'm not there, I will report it to the authorities." Don't dance about it with "the police wouldn't like it." Just say it. He doesn't care about not doing it cuz it upsets you.
He will probably say you would be a "snitch" or whatever. Basically, I tell my kid clients that only criminals use the term "snitch" or worry about getting ratted out to the police. Knowing the history, he would probably also say "I will call the police on you for letting the 14 year old drive your car." To which I would respond "go ahead." Then drop it.
Thanks guys. After talking to my sponsor, I had to really check my motives. He already knows how I feel about this. He already knows how society would feel about this and he knows how law enforcement would feel about it. He chose to do it because he doesn't care about breaking the law, etc and he doesn't care about how it could possibly affect his family. So, I decided to not say anything. I can only protect myself by making sure I don't forget to take my spare keys with me when I travel. I have done so in the past but I forgot this time. It's apparently the only way I can truly make sure he doesn't drive my car again. And, since I know Mark's conversation and possible outcome is dead on, I honestly don't feel like having that conversation with him anyway. Why incite the argument when I already know the outcome, right?
I gather that AH is a teenager? I'm sorry but I dont "do" acronyms or abbreviations well, so not sure age of alcoholic. Anyway what I learned is there are 3 steps in doing boundaries: figure what my boundary is, setting the boundary with the other person, and enforcing the boundary. If I ever "set" a boundary with someone for than 3 times, it means I'm trying to fix the other person. 3 strikes you're out. The enforcement step is by far the hardest for me because at that point I have to accept that the other person is unwilling to honor my boundary and my only choice is sometimes ending the relationship. If it's a minor then involuntary treatment or turning him or her into the police for the crime he has committed--in this case; driving without interlock. Another point however from a legal point of view: it isnt just a financial harm. If the alcoholic hurts or god forbids kills someone while driving your car--in some states you could go to jail or be sued for the harm. There are very high stakes here. I had to decide if I was willing to risk death or serious injury of my loved one or someone else by failing to enforce a boundary. Just a lawyer's take on it.
Cwya, no AH stands for alcoholic husband as an acronym. My AH got a DUI about 15 months ago and is on an interlock restricted license, he has a breathalyzer installed in his car and is not allowed legally to drive any other vehicle other than one with an interlock. My AH just got 6 extra months tacked onto his 18 months because he tried to start his interlock device while drunk a few months ago, not just once but twice within the same week! He blew a .15 each time. Anyway, my biggest concern is the drinking and driving, which he has proven he will not curb or control. And, yes, my biggest fear is that he will injure someone else(or God forbid kill someone) if he drives my car drunk. He's already proven that he's capable of making poor decisions when it comes to the drinking and driving, it's sad that we're talking about a 46 year old man here instead of a teen, isn't it?
Been through this one, my ex A stole my car whilst I was away on business a couple of weeks ago.
Result he was arrested by the Police and now charged for a variety of offences, I only found out and the damage to the car when I returned. I thought I could trust him, so another lesson learnt and he will never have access to my keys again plus the car will be fitted with an immobilser so that nobody will easily be able to steal it.
He is right on. Your guy KNOWS what he is doing is wrong. What he needs to believe is you will get him arrested for stealing your car! That is the natuarl consequences for that behavior.
I am sure there are better ways to leave a key for yourself. Hey I used to hide my meds in my Raggedy Annes bloomers! lol he never found them there. hahaha love! debilyn
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I love it Debilyn! I'll have to remember the bloomers trick. I'm so sorry Iluvdogs...yes it is sad that you have to deal with a husband as though he is a teenager. Been there. I'm praying for you to HP that AH:) decides while sober to go to any lengths to stay there.