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Have a problem with co-workers


So is it my business when workers all have the same hours but some of them come in late, or go home early or taker longer breaks..the boss doesnt see them, but I do because I am centrally located. I try not to pay attention and just do my work, but then on the other hand is this fair, or am I from the old school and have different ethics, I feel cheated. If I say something I don't feel good about, but then if I don't say anything it bugs me....what do you think, I am trying to keep the peace in my life...but this interferes....



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Yeah!! there are soooo many people and sooo many things that give me the opportunity to loose focus on myself and just go at other people, places and things...why in the hell did I even need an alcoholic/addict to marry?   LOL  

There are lots of opportunities at my place of contract to do the same thing and sometimes I even take the opportunity to unfocus and then after I'm finished doing that I need to put in just as much "honest" time so I feel good about my billing.

Thank God for the program.   ((((hugs)))) smile

great post...



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I think this could be an example of our distorted thinking. Healthy people dont watch others coming and going. They look only to themselves and their own behaviour. You have no control over others only you. Take care.x

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I find I just can't worry about it. It's their problem. When it comes to the work place you don't have control of, it will just drive yourself nuts. If you can't say anything you just have to turn a blind eye.




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I guess I didn't add an important thing, I am the coordinator of 5 peoples appts, and when they arrive late or go out for a smoke, I am the one who has to deal with the person who has the appt and make excuses why the advisor is not ready to see them. I guess I look like the bad guy and our department is not represented very well. No I am not just watching other employees randomly, it is part of my job to know who is where and are they available. I have said something but it doesnt seem to be changing. I will deal with it in some way if it gets to be too much, I am not a marter (sp) thats for sure, just looking for others opinion.



-- Edited by oldergal on Saturday 11th of May 2013 01:30:24 PM

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There's a gaggle of women at work that take 3 hour lunch breaks. I think now the bosses are seeing some stuff that has not been done. I'm noticing shorter lunch breaks LOL. It was never my style to do that much farting around at work (except when I was an active drinker and I slept off hangovers at work - yeah...terrible). I guess I have stuff to make up for. I don't sweat it much. I like to be more productive anyhow. They can chit chat and have their extended luncheons anyhow.

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This happens at my work to.

You may think the boss isn't watching and noone sees them, but remember that someone, somewhere always notices. Case in point, with you noticing them.

I just come in, focus on my job and my results and the rest will take care of itself regardless of the outcome. My higher power has a plan for me just as their's has a plan for them.

Also as an aside, about a month ago our regional manager came in to talk about numbers and such. The company is now implementing a company-wide system of log-in/lougout at the beginning and end of your shift :).....They know.

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Hi Oldergal
 
I agree with the other MIP members. Learning to "Practice these Principles in all our Affairs" ,as the 12th Step suggests, is a daily reminder of our program. I need to always remember to keep the focus on my self , stay in my own hula hoop, and know I am powerless over others.
 
If it is your job to supervise or menage others then it would be appropriate for you to have a meeting to discuss this


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I worked at a place many years ago that decided to ban smoking in the workplace, but did set up outdoor places for smokers to go. Well, needless to say, smokers went outside and non-smokers seethed because they believed they didn't get to take as many breaks as the smokers. The non-smokers got worse and worse about what they saw to be a GRAVE INJUSTICE done to them that they were powerless over and boy did that shake their bloomers. Anyway - it was suggested one day that management had never said they couldn't go outside, too. Welp! That did it. The non-smokers who were always unhappy about something were mad now because they could go outside as much as the smokers.

I learned then that the underlying issue for me - wasn't the justice or lack thereof of management's policy - it was the fact that some of us weren't paying attention to what was truly troubling that usually had to do with lack of balance. HALT helped. Being a work-a-holic and Type A personality, I can get out of balance easily if I don't monitor what I'm doing and what I need to do to take good care of myself at work.

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This goes on in my workplace too and no... it's not my business.  I have a team member who joins our call late every week.  I often see them just shooting the breeze with someone at that time. I could say that I feel that's disrespectful to the rest of us who are at the meeting on time and that his late arrival is disruptive and then there is backtracking to things that have already been covered to fill him in on what he's missed.  Ultimately.... it's my bosses choice of how our team meetings are handled. She has never asked for input from us concerning how our team meetings might be more productive.  So... I've come to accept what my team meeting looks like before I even attend. If it improves in some way that would be great but most importantly, I prepare to do my part in my role and detach from my team member's weekly apologies for arriving late.

Unlike the Alanon program, we're not all regarded as equals in the program of work in the workplace. Favoritism exists.  Part of my growing up in this program has been to let go the illusory belief that right will always prevail over wrong, the best man/woman wins and good will always prevail over evil.  I've found the best I can do is be mindful of my own motives, value system, code of ethics.  I may not come to my work meeting late but I do other things.  I'm not a stellar perfect employee.  Thank goodness I'm human!  I find myself hyperfocused on others and what they're doing when I'm aggravated about things in my own life.  "How important is it?"  This is definitely influenced by the amount of serenity I'm walking around with.  If I'm not in a good place, the stinking thinking is working overtime.  For instance, while on my team's phone call in my thoughts I'm pointing my finger and rolling my eyes at this guy who comes late and offers excuses. Now not only is my serenity further compromised but I'm building a big resentment.  Am I concentrating on the meeting now?  No.  Is there a difference between him missing time in our meeting due to being late and me not being present because my focus is on him being late?  No.  Would I prefer that my supervisor not let him disrupt our meeting by coming late, sure I would. Do I have control over that?  No.  Meanwhile my higher power is tapping me on the shoulder saying "hey, YOU."  Me?  Oh..yeah, HP Lesson 1:  Point finger at self.  

Thanks for your honest share about this.  I can appreciate your frustration.  I'm human and no matter how long I'm in this program I doubt I'll be oblivious to what's going on around me with others. But when I notice, thankfully time and experience in Alanon has given me the tools to refocus quicker like saying the Serenity Prayer. I have serenity now since Alanon. I know that all my life I will come upon situations that call for making a conscious choice to keep my serenity.  I prefer the pay off when I don't choose to give my power away.  I'm usually happier with daily inventory and I sleep more peacefully. TT



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I saw this quote on Twitter yesterday (by Marianne Williamson), and it really made me stop and think about how downright angry I got the day before after reading somebody else's bumper sticker (!). The quote on Twitter was "When we focus on the errors of personality rather than the innocence of spirit, we deflect a miracle and cause our own inevitable suffering."

I realized that I really did make myself suffer when I let myself get so irate about that guy in the truck with the bumper stickers. I went off on a silent rage, deeming him and a whole group of other similar men as being the scourge of the Earth. When I saw that quote later it was a huge relief to realize that I didn't have to hate all those men, just dislike that particular opinion they have.

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It's good you've said something to them directly first instead of just jumping over their heads. Nothing creates unnecessary tension worse than someone going over another person's head. Part of my problem as an Al-Anon is I like to avoid confrontation and will opt to take what seems the easiest route... i.e.: drop the problem in someone else's lap instead of sticking up for myself.

I'm not sure what you said to them, but what you may want to do is try to come from the approach of "how can I be of assistance" - but not "how can I be your doormat". Maybe request a small meeting and say "wow guys, hey - schedules are getting screwy. Can you help me out here and let's all agree on set times for smoke breaks so we can make sure these appointments aren't getting delayed." Or something to that affect. If necessary, bring your supervisor into the conversation, but not as an "I'm telling on you" kind of way, but just to get their input. You might also talk to your supervisor about the issue and ask how they'd like you to approach the situation... maybe they have some suggestions, so again, you're not suddenly calling down the thunder of having the supervisor talk to them, but maybe you're getting some empowerment from your supervisor on getting the situation sorted out.

I can tell you that all of life's challenges are so much easier for me when I approach it with that "how can I be of assistance" standpoint instead of "you people are making my life miserable and need to change".

The great thing about Al-Anon is it can be applied to all aspects of our lives... remember you're powerless over their behavior but you can certainly change yours. If no solutions come about at all, even after attempting a group discussion that involves everyone's input, then you can re-examine and ask yourself "how important is it". And when you answer that, then you can figure out where to go from there.

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I overinvested in so much on my job. Last year I went to human resources 4 times over various issues.  I really did want to be known, validated and part of at work.

I certainly am known, validated and part of at work but I am also far far more detached.  I had to go through a recent ordeal to get there. I was incredibly over invested in what my co workers thought of me, what my role was and how it all came out.  Now I am not but I had to go through all that negotiation, feeling, validation from others, asking for help from others (I did get help from an outside agency).

Of course all those things of wanting to be included are part of my childhood issues. Whenever I was around the ex A I didn't feel included.  Now I think how could I be.  He was invested 100% in his alcoholism and his peers were too.  I wasn't part of that. 

Detachment is not an easy thing to learn.  I don't think any of us get it 100% for a long long time.  When it gets to be a choice rather than a mandate life gets easier. For some people like me, the journey there is not an easy one.

Maresie.



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