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How do you detach from your kids. They are hurting so much from the chaos that was caused in their lives and are causing even more chaos, because they don't know any better.
Well, in any instance where I had to detach, I had to first separate the person from the disease. I had to realize its not them I don't approve of, its what they're doing. And they are probably doing it because they have been (as you already know) affected by the disease of alcoholism. It always seems harder when its the children. Learning to detach requires taking a moment to reflect before reacting. I always try to detach with love. Its the disease I hate, not the people who have the disease. That's my take on it.
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Not all my days are priceless, but none of them are worthless, anymore.
I found that the only way I could interact with my child and the world for that matter was to search out alanon meetings in my community and attend
I found the meetings by calling the alanon office listed in the White pages.
I attended a meetings every day for over 2 years. These meetings saved my sanity and life I continue to attend meetings at least 2 times a week in order to maintain my growth.
Get yourself to an al-anon meeting asap. I found that the meetings helped me regain my sanity. Once I got a bit more steady on my feet and calmed down, my teenagers calmed down, too. I've learned many things in al-anon, but one of the most important was to be gentle and kind to myself. I've learned that this self-compassion has been critical to detaching from my kids' behavior and helping them steady themselves (it's the same as the airplane rule: you put on your airmask and then help your kid put on her's). I turn my compassion towards them to sort through what I can ignore (messy rooms) and what can't be ignored (out late because it's not safe).
Keep coming back. I learn something everyday from people on this site.
My teenager has been acting out a lot, I'm not sure how much is due to his mom's alcoholism and how much is due to trying to impress his peers. I see other kids doing the same things. His mom is a great mom with a problem that when active takes away her ability to parent. While I can't minimize the affect of what happened, it's a family disease and focusing entirely on the alcoholic is how it spreads to the family. It can get a little frustrating, because I think there's a bit of a stigma attached to him due to what has transpired and a lot of his friends' parents seem to blame him for their own kids struggles.
While I am a good dad that loves his kids, I can see some of the mistakes I made. The dynamic between my son and I that was my responsiblity to foster is not always healthy. I have tried the brute force method with my son, but that has not yielded very good results.
He seems to be less fearfull of Al-Anon than he was in the past, but getting him to go is still something I struggle with. I feel that trying to drag my son to a meeting will only strengthen his resolve to reject Al-Anon. I just have to keep hoping that if I work on myself my kids will notice an improvement and want to get help themselves. In the meantime I just keep trying to be a good dad.
He really hasn't got in any more trouble then I did at his age, but that isn't necessarily a comfort since I made some really stupid decsions when I was young.
I have two teen boys myself (and an 8 year old). Teens are difficult. My teen boys have experienced abuse, divorce and a father who was a dry drunk most of their childhood, become wet once we split.
I spent many of the early years split from my ex going between blaming him (internally) for my kids behaviors, to even resorting to his dad's tactic of blaming everything external for their behaviors (they act like x because of (fill in the blank) video games, movies, music, friends, etc).
At the time I was not realizing I could benefit from either ACOA or Al Anon, but I sought out a counselor who is very good with teaching boundaries and even helping me teach boundaries. I have a long way to go but we have made huge strides.
I address the issue as an individual issue. My kids struggle with grades, the middle son the most. Yes, being a child of divorce increases your chances of struggling, and yes, being the child of an abusive/controlling alcoholic parents PLUS a recovering codependent mother is going to drastically increase your issues with boundaries, blaming and being irresponsible. Where do you start with that? You start with teaching them to focus on themselves. No more blaming.
13 year old wants to fail 8th grade and "try again next year". Ok son, I can't force you to do your work, but your room is empty, your door is removed, your priviledges are non-existant unless I'm getting good reports from your teachers and if you fail 8th grade you get summer school. You figure out what you want to do, I will enforce the boundaries. When I hear things like "the teacher makes science boring" I reply with "you don't get to decide how or what she teaches, it's only your job to do the work". That's like one of a zillion excuses I get.
The 15 (nearly 16) year old wants to get a job and a driver's license. He got 5 of 6 grades up over the past 4 months. Still has one F. He blames me for being too strict, or his teacher for not reminding him to get assignments he missed (mmhmmm), etc. My response? "You know what I expect, you know what needs to happen in math to get your grades up, I"ve given you several ideas and tools you could access to get it done. It's up to you, I'm not going to nag you or force you however, blaming me for being strict is not going to change your grade. And you aren't going to change my expectations. So do you want a license and job more, or to keep making excuses for your grades?" The talk was far longer but the end result was "I guess I need to want to job and license more".
When the boys get into arguments and use foul language or hit - their dad blames tv, music, etc. So it happens at my house, I hand out the consequences and for awhile I would hear "well I did it because I saw it/heard it, etc on (name media)". My response was (and it did end this) "I won't accept that excuse, you are responsible for your choice of words and actions". (BTW, I'm very strict with what they watch so it wasn't even a valid exuse at my house LOL)
Now it's on a different level. My oldest can yell like his dad - it's this horrible bellowing, frightening and confrontational yelling. He on occasion will get in my face and resort to it when he's angry with me. I wait until he stops yelling and have always said to him "do not speak to me in that manner, I expect you to find another manner to communicate with me, come talk to me when you are ready to speak to me respectfully".
He's stopped yelling at me like that, took a long time.
Long story there to say - as long as we give our kids excuses and things to blame things on, they'll take it. But if we help them learn that despite our world and environment having difficult people/experiences, we are still ultimately for 100% of what we do, think and say - they are bright enough to get it. Use the knowlege that they have those difficulties to be loving and understanding. However use the loving and understanding to teach them they are bigger than it. And know that as parents we never are perfect and we don't have to expect ourselves to be perfect. If you make a mistake today - you have thousands of more chances to get it right.
((((Sam)))) Alateen is part of the Al-Anon Family Groups...see if they meet in your area and get your child into the group and let it do the rest. Stand back if it is available and they are qualified and attend because an Alateen miracle is very very awesome to watch. Teens change fast; faster than adults from my experience because they don't have as much time in the problem as we do. I sponsored Alateen for a good long time and it was a blessing to me. ((((hugs))))
((((Sam)))) Alateen is part of the Al-Anon Family Groups...see if they meet in your area and get your child into the group and let it do the rest. Stand back if it is available and they are qualified and attend because an Alateen miracle is very very awesome to watch. Teens change fast; faster than adults from my experience because they don't have as much time in the problem as we do. I sponsored Alateen for a good long time and it was a blessing to me. ((((hugs))))
I had the opportunity to attend Atateen way back when, didn't do it.. Really wish I would have been ready then....... 20 years later I made it to the big boy table, Al-Anon...... Better late than never
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I want to add there are Al-ateen books that were helpful to my 14 year old, hopefully there are face to face meetings in your area and there are Al-ateen links on MIP. I am sending you love and support!
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Thank you. I am in Al-anon and the kids are in Alateen. It just seems so frustrating at times to repeat your boundaries over and over again. It feels like I am not getting through to them.