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I am here to be honest right? Well last night, my bf had to go to a DUI thing. In this state, they have people take these once a week classes inorder to get their license back. Anyway, he drank 4 nips of vodka before the class, over a period of a few hours. I tried super hard to stay on my own side of the street. I kind of white knuckled it ...didn't call anyone at that point...then I said it, the mean awful nasty thing. I barely want to post it, but here goes...I said: "Why don't you just go drink a gallon of vodka so you don't have to wake up tomorrow in the real world" GAG! Why did I say it? I of course said I was wrong and I was so sorry right away, but the look on his face was HURT. Man, I was so mean. I told him, that I am working really hard and I slipped. That was the old me breaking out. Gods, I felt terrible. And so I dropped him off, and I called my alanon contact right away. She helped me feel better about it, and was supportive of me, and said "hey we all make mistakes"....She even gave me some words that I could say instead next time, like "Hey, I know its hard for you not to drink, maybe tomorrow will be better..." and some other stuff. Today, I just talked with him, he is home and I am at work...and he sounds like he drank a bit. Whatever, today I am going home and trying a little harder with my own attitude...He will either drink or he won't, what am I going to do?
Thanks, be gentle with me...:(
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Let go and let God...Let it be... let it begin with me...
A few weeks ago I told my AH that his alcoholism was a cop-out for his bad behavior. Ouch! That really hurt him and make me feel like the ultimate a-hole. The minute it came out I wanted to take it back. That was a valuable lesson to learn. You can't take it back, once you say something hurtful in the heat of the moment the person may forgive you but they probably won't forget. Words can really hurt sometimes :(
After this happened (and whenever I do something wrong or hurt someone) I 10th step it ASAP. Admit you were wrong, apologize, and tell them how you will change your behavior so it won't happen again. Then move on. Don't beat yourself up about it. Everyone makes mistakes, it's a part of life. This program isn't about being perfect.
The fact that you don't feel good about the comments you made is a good thing, and great self reflection and awareness on your part.... Saying you're sorry to an active A - hmm... never a "bad" thing, but sometimes a dangerous one..... My preference, and something I had to learn, was to make amends, in the way of an acknowledgment.... as in: "I regret saying what I said to you last night, and am working on my program to try to not repeat my behavior".... I tended not to worry about whether or not to include the words "I'm sorry", to my then-active A, as that would seem to trigger the manipulation (on her part) to use that against me, and as yet another excuse for them to continue in their addiction.
I fully believe in the gentle mirror and affirmations - "you did the best you could, with what you knew at the time".... you are growing, and moving forward every day
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"He is either gonna drink, or he won't.... what are YOU gonna do?"
"What you think of me is none of my business"
"If you knew the answer to what you are worrying about, would it REALLY change anything?"
I agree that saying mean and nasty things is going to make YOU feel bad. On the other hand, I wouldn't sit around and watch someone self destruct and be so self-sabotaging that they actually drink before their court order alcohol class. That is ridiculous. I think the "What are you gonna do?" means do not overreact, but it doesn't mean for you to accept the unacceptable either.
LOL what a family...YFM recovery is all about progress not perfection...so you get to be human on all levels. "I learned to decypher the things I said back into the feelings I was having, like the drinking scares me and when I get scared (or fearful) I get angry. I don't have any control over this and I don't like it." I learned that after the women of Al-Anon taught me how to get in touch with my feminine side...my emotions or feelings...Man did I grovel during those learning days. My feminine side? huuumph. Thoughts aren't feelings now and when I express my thoughts when I'm hurt, angry or resentful I usually express them with a baseball bat in my hand. You're growing. Good work. (((((hugs)))))
I have said some mean things in my day, that I couldn't take back and in every case it was because I was where I wasn't supposed to be in the first place, in someone else's space trying to get them to do things my way, so my amends includes not only apologizing and acknowledging the hurtful behavior but acknowledging the fact I was where I shouldn't have been, on their side of the street trying to control their behavior, this was the decision I made based on self that placed me in a position to be hurt, so for me it's not just "saying sorry" but learning what actual real changes I need to make in order to change my own behavior since I learned painfully that I couldn't change their behavior or I would have never made it to Alanon in the first place
Thankfully I have the steps, in this case Step 10 which says
Step 10 "Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it"
it helped when I worked the first nine steps first, but I learned that "withholding" an apology for the purpose of "reward", "control" or "manipulation" ALSO fell under the behavior in which I needed to make amends, because for me with-holding an amends falls under being passive aggressive and controlling, "owning" and "owning up" to my own behavior is the antidote to the whole cycle, that and setting boundaries about what is mine and what is someone else's, if they try to "sandbag" I firmly but gently, and with a LOT of love say "we aren't discussing that right now, we are discussing this, would you like to discuss that sometime? because the time to do it is not when we are discussing this, I will be more then happy to address your concerns if and when you bring them to me, but NOW is NOT the time"
me staying out of "their yards", Boundaries and ownership of ones own actions and good communication heads off most of this stuff before it ever happens for me
My job is to keep MY side of the street clean, what THEY do with MY amends is not on me
MY program is MINE, my tenth step is MINE, and it's not "conditional", and it's not my job to be on their side of the street in the first place which is what gets me into trouble
Like Jerry I get to translate my behavior from my fears, "I was fearful of this, so I reacted like this", then I express an HONEST regret for harms done, if that means saying "I am Sorry I said that" I say I am sorry, and then the ACTUAL amends is my living amends, I don't do it any more, I learn to say "I am afraid, I am angry, I am hurt" etc
For me withholding an apology just because someone doesn't behave the way I want them to falls under the category of what I am here to recover from, but I am funny that way, I take those step thingy's literally, so when it says "Make amends PROMPTLY when YOU are wrong" I make amends and not conditional evasive passive aggressive admission of partial guilt that will be remedied when they start behaving the way I want them to, accepting people for exactly who they are is included in my step one, when I admit I am powerless over them I get to stop trying to get them to do it "my way" and start concentrating on keeping MY side of the street clean, part of that exercise is staying off their side of the street because that is what makes me crazy
Making amends make me STRONGER in my recovery not weaker, saying sorry doesn't put me in a subserviant weak position, rather the reverse is true, not saying sorry is just me trying to have control over the other person
Someone else's behavior is just that, someone else's behavior it's not my job to moniter or babysit them, because when I do this exact thing happens to me, I yell "you are doing it wrong you @$^%#@ IDIOT!!!!!" and then I have to make an amends, for not only yelling at them but for pitching my tent in their yard, for thinking it's MY job to clean up THEIR messes
Now it's more like, "oh look, the maroon is racing headlong for a cliff" /waves hanky as he sips lemonade safely on his side of the street "tooodledooo have fun dear.......let me know how that works out for you...."
-- Edited by linbaba on Tuesday 7th of June 2011 10:02:54 PM
Every time I apologize to my A he uses it for all he is worth, so I have stopped otherwise I eat it for days. I have said many terrible things and I have learned the less I think about his stuff the healthier I become and the less I lash out. Good job on your awareness, we have all been there. Progress not perfection!
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