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Well I feel I need to share, get it off my chest or whatever we are going to call this...so here goes nothing :)
I met my ABF just over a year ago. He actually worked for my husband. I was at a super low point in my life. A few months later I left my husband (this was in the works already for me) I ran into the arms of this man, my ABF. I knew he drank but truly had no concept of what an A was.
Now to back up a little I was with my Hubby for 18 years and devastated by the loss of our marriage and the repeated failed attempts to fix it. The ex did have a short run with an addiction himself with drugs. He has been clean for 12 years now, kudos to him. That being said it was not the reason for leaving. Having left and looking back with clear eyes I realize now that the drugs may have stopped but his addictions remain. They are in different forms: hobbies, work, women and so on. I guess the point of all that is I never allowed myself to heal from that loss (still not legally divorced and goin thru that drama still). It made it easy to jump into something with blinders on.
So here I am. I finally get the courage to leave my Hubby and now I am homeless. Well here is this man who is showering me with attention. I'm weak and I cave. We move in together. I have to admit I fell in love hard and fast. I hadn't been treated like a woman in god only knows how long. When we met we drank together quite often. I always had cook outs with my ex and well there would be drinking eating and conversation. Normal stuff I thought.
Now that im living with this new man I began to notice that he was drinking a lot. He wasnt just drinking socially. I questioned him about it. He said I told you I was an acholic. Well that didn't mean much to me because I had no clue. He then promised to stop drinking. I thought oh ok cool problem fixed. Occasionally we would hv some wine with dinner or an occasional drink. Again I'm clueless.
Holidays are coming and I got a few bottles of alcohol for egg nog and what not. I'm the kind of person that would take over a year to go through a bottle of vodka. I would have to while the dust off before I made a drink lol. Anyhow the ABF got really drunk one night and I was so freaked out. He acted so strange, talking to himself and what not. I realized he had been sneaking ad taking shits right out of the bottle. We talked about it the next day and he apologized and said he didn't want me to get mad and wouldn't do it again. Ok problem solved.
Then sometime after the holidays temptation got ABF. He proceeded to get extremely drunk. I was beside myself. We were fighting and yelling. I lost my mind. I proceeded to throw all his belongs put the door. He left on foot and I was hysterical and to barrased to tell anyone. I poured out every ounce of alcohol in the house. Of course he came back shortly after full of apologies and promises.
Now we are getting ready to move, again. (my ex ownes lots of rental properties and finally has one ready for me to live in, by ready I mean he moved the tenants out. The house was a disaster) also I feel I must mention that there were several other incidences the the ABF drank in-between those I told you about. They didn't turn into big blow outs but were certainly upsetting. I'm sure more "classic" actions of an A that you could relate to.
We get moved (stressful) I'm finically in a pickle and can't pay our last months rent (stressful) my son had the month before a terrible dirtbike accident (lots of stress) and then had complications several weeks later and had emergency surgery (major stress). So needless to say the previous 4 weeks had been pure hell for me.
Anyhow we were in the house not even two weeks and ABF proceeded to get the drumbeat I has ever seen. His nasty side came out. Verbally so mean. I was. At my lowest point ever in my life emotionally. We fought and fought for hours. Here I am, still hurtin from and 18 year relationship, almost lost my son and so confused and hurt by this relationship I was in and blamig myself for his drinking. I couldn't take it anymore. I took a fist full of Xanax. I just wanted it to be over. Thank god the ABF had enough clarity to call 911.
I woke up 3 days layer in the hospital and was baker acted. My ABF was in jail!!! When they came to et me they found he had a warrant. Long story thee an had nothing to do with. I still stand by him on that one, he beat it and I'll just leave it at it was a bad situation and he was an innocent victim, I swear!
Of course while he was in jail and I was working to correct this situation with him he made a lot of promises. Those jail house promises. Yet again I was clueless and believed every word. When he came home thugs were good for awhile. The stress started to build yet again. Money was super tight. ABF is disabled and gets SSDI and my work dropped about 80%. We were doing little odd jobs for money here and there. ABF started getting beer every now and then. He never acted like a drunk or a jerk so I thought it was ok.
Well now here I am. The end of April a friend of my sons became very il and passed away unexpectedly my son and this boy are only 15) You can only imagine how the emotions were around the home front. The ABF didn't drink around my son and that had been the only rule I enforced. After all this happened ad my son went to his dads the ABF proceeds to get a "beverage". Now anything with alcohol was simply called a beverage. I was upset but let it go. I realized I couldn't control it.
This all was on a tuesday when he got the first beverage. I stayed clear of him and tried to do my own thing. I noticed as the day turned to night he was drunk and had been sneaking to the store to buy more. that night we faught and I found myself praying for him to pass out. I realized that night I had to do something and stop this nonsense. I told myself when he sobered up I was goof to end the relationship if he didn't get help.
Wenesday comes and he wakes before me and snuckbout to the liguer store and bought two bottles of vodka. I had no clue. By noon time I realized he was drunk again. I avoided him knowing I can't argue wig a sick mind. He became increasingly agitated. I asked himto call a family memeber and to please leave and sleep it off. I became nervous an locked him out of the house. Oh boy that really set him off. He punche out a window. I was terrified. I ran outbid the house and called 911.
Cops came and told me to leave!! I was dumbfounded. I sat at my neighbors house for 3 hours waiting for ABF to pass out. I came back home. Realized I really had no where to go and curled up on the couch sure the ABF would sleep through the night. Wrong!! ABF came and sat on the couch, calm as could be. Asked me if we were over. I told him I thought so but we had a lot to discuss and felt a nights sleep was best first. Well he lost his mind.
By the grace of god I kept it together. I didn't yell scream or cry. I was shakig but I kept my cool the entire time. He proceeds to chest bump me and was so close and yelling so ba he was spitting on me. I grabbed my purse with a change of close in it (I had already prepared for a quick exit if needed) I started slowly walking backwards, no way was I turning my back on this man I had never seen until now. There were to many things said to list. The one that stands out is how he wasn't stupid enough to lay a hand on me and he was going to get this house and not me and I'd never be allowed to come back and he would have it in his name. I think I actually laughed out loud at that. Big mistake. He Chest bumped me again towards the back of the cabinet and then slammed me into it. I was retried and threw my arms up to protect my face. He stepped back and I laughed again and said, yep you're stupid game over and I ran Out the front door to my neighbors. I called the sherrif and was disconnected because ABF was blowing my phoen up.
I could make a call so I txt my cousin asking for help gettin ABF out of the house. She was with my ex and called me. I told her what happened and she says we are on our way and hung up. Now I'm really freakig out and envision a fight in my front yard. O wanted the cops not a fight so all I manage to do it txt her back with "he's violent". Well low an behold that set a panic in them and they literally chased a cop down and drive him off the road and pulled into my house with in 3 mins with two cop cars with them!
What a scene! The ABF resisted arrest and showed his as* they had to hog tie him to out him in the car. I was mortified. You can only imagine the scene, the neighbors were all outside watching now. I wanted to crawl under a rock. I managed to calm down and they gave me info on filing for an injunction.
I her since followed through with that and was awarded the injunction. ABF had criminal charges from the broken window and resisting arrest. I went to the arraignment. And pleas guilty and was sentenced to 60 days. The judge asked each if if we had anything to say before sentencing. And said he wanted help and a treatment program. The judge told him that at 41 he should have figured that out by now and done something about it already. I asked for the same for ABF. The judge turned to me and asked if ABF still had belongings in my home. I said yes and he said good. You can keep every single thing and sell it as you see fit for restitution. The judge turned to ABF and told him now you have no reason to ever retune to this womans home! I was flabbergasted to say the least.
Now here is my dilemma. I refer to this is my right brain, wrong brain. My right brain says, your done, he's gone, it's over, you received a way out, now heal, seek help and move on. My wrong brain says, you love this man. He has a ton of potential. He needs you. He has a disease. You wouldn't walk away from someone with cancer so this is no different. My brain and heart are in contestant battle over this.
I need to find "my" answer to this. I need to heal myself let alone worrying about his healing process. I so want to know how others have dealt with something similar a things tubes out for them. I have nothing to campare this too. I know my friends think it's simple, walk away and dont look back. This is where I have been told f I let this man back into my life I will be out of theirs. I get it I really do. I'm heartbroken about all of it.
I'm trying to pick up the pieces. I'm trying to work on me. My heart however is being pulled to this man. My right brain is telling to stop being stupid an move on. The wrong brain is telling me to help him.
So please, I know you can't tell me what to do or give me a magical answer but share with me your thoughts and opinions. I feel like I'm close to finding my own answers but I need to hear things from people who have been there so I know I'm not alone.
Can you get to an Al anon meeting and Ala Teen for your son?
It's your choice if you want to walk right back into the situation. NOTHING will change, next time he may kill you or your son. He has already crossed the line.
Do you have a group for battered women. Abuse is not a symptom of addiction!
I know it hurts, we are addicted to them. We do love the person they are when they are not using.
But we have to be ready to accept both. This situation is so very dangerous. I am sure you don't want your son to be home seeing this! Or coming home and finding you dead!
Or you finding him dead.
It happens.
Its like getting in a raft, you LOVE rafting, but next thing ya know there is a huge high waterfall, you get beat around, scared to death, its horrible! You are not safe, you are in danger, you go over and almost drown.
people run to help you, sheriff comes, they get you safe.
Someone asks are you going to do that again?
so do you put your raft back into the same place and go again? becuz if nothing changes,nothing changes.
And can you blame the ones who won't want to help you again?do you want to chance death?
Hon there are better jobs, even if it is at Goodwill. They don't make bad money! I see jobs like that all the time. If it is not enough, you can get a food card, get electricity help.son is old enough to get a job too, something he likes to bring in some for him.
If you choose to do it on your own, I promise everything will be ok. You may have to struggle awhile, but there is help.
I don't know about your state, but here the state moved my daughter and her new born out of one city to another, paid all expenses.
the bio father abused her. ONE TIME.
She stayed home awhile then started her own great organic child care for Doctors of the hospital she lives by. Makes good money, is home with her kiddo.
Believe me it can be done. We are happy to guide you and support you! You are NOT alone.
you would be surprised how much help there is for you.
A can get help on his own. You would LOVE to learn more from Al anon.
You don't have to think of you guys over forever. Just take ONE day at a time, do what you can and then nap, read, whatever!
I am here for you, seriously,debilyn
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The Al-anon meeting you are planning to attend tonight will help you work on your right brain. Put all the foucs on yourself. The only person who can help your ABF is your ABF. Until he wants and seeks help nothing will change. Alcoholism is a progressive disease that continues to only get worse. When alcoholism is mixed with verbal and physical abuse the word progressive takes on a new meaning. Concentrate on putting the focus yourself, taking care of yourself, your safety, serenity, and peace of mind. You are the only person you can change. I have confidence you will do the next right thing for yourself and your son. Your f2f meeting tonight will be a giant step in that direction.
HUGS,
-- Edited by RLC on Wednesday 1st of June 2011 01:37:40 PM
Help him ??? I think you need to help yourself . there is nothing you can do to help him you are not powerful enough to make him stop drinking . Find a few meetings for yourself get some self esteem back and self worth , educate your self about this disease and just how powerless you are over it . You deserve better than to be used as a punching bag because he has ( issues) we all have issues . You mention you wouldnt leave a man with cancer etc well they dont usually bully thier partners or threaten them with violence . and I am sorry but when you took that fist full of zanex did you ever consider how your son would manage without his mother ? No one is worth taking your life and I do mean NO ONE ..
Aloha Devlynn...Try something...Read your post as if you were one of us and when you are finished ask yourself "What's going on with this gal and what does she need to do with it?" Then compare your response with the responses you've gotten from the membership.
Just some additional suggestion and ESH from my experience...Alcoholism is a fatal disease which can never be cured only arrested by total abstinence. It is a compulsion of the mind and a allergy of the body. It is progressive and if the alcoholic was to stop drinking for a while and then return to drinking it will always be worse never better.
Alcoholism is a disease of dellusion nothing is what it appears to be, sounds to be, feels to be. Those who drink alcohol are consuming a mind-and-mood altering chemical. Reality becomes warped...dellusional and confusing. It is an addiction which means the dellusion will always have a place in the alcoholics thinking and feeling process and that is one reason that AA is a one day at a time program with the awareness that "once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic and never cured."
Unfortunately all are affected by the chemical and disease this way. Reading your story and comparing it to my own reveals that we are related in this disease along with the rest of this family.
I suggest that you leave your brain sit in it's box for a while and use your gut and the program of Al-Anon along with Alateen for your son. All are affected in much the same way and that is why we understand. Listen to these members who have been where you are at now and like it was mentioned have had this happen or worse because it is in there experiences that you will find healing. One part of our bodies that alcoholism devastates widely is our brains and out emotions.
I can only come from my view point on this, I was in an abusive relationship. I know my part in it and I know that there is never an excuse for abuse. I went to a women's center nearby. They gave me tons of information and suggestions. They had a place for me to go THAT DAY if I wanted it. They gave me resources and introduced me to the cycle of abuse. You are not alone here. Alanon can help you help yourself. But you have to want it. What he is doing is not healthy, and its certainly not safe. Give yourself time to heal, work your program, find a sponsor, listen in meetings, share on topics on what you are doing for yourself. Its great to get this all out, and tell your story, and then work on getting yourself to a meeting. I have learned from the people here and at my meeting that have time in their program, that working the steps with a sponsor, reaching out to other people from the meetings and focusing on me is what works to get better. I have the same disease as my ABF, except I am addicted to people (HIM) and not a substance...Take care of you... (((((HUGS)))))thanks for sharing all this!
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I'm currently dealing with a serious situation with my ex. He just entered rehab a few days ago. Every time he tries to stop drinking on his on, he becomes dangerously delusional.
Place your focus on you and your son's welfare. I have a part of my brain that tells me to give my ex another chance, too. That's when I get to a meeting, or begin reading the Al-Anon literature to help me get back in touch with the logical side of my brain.
I've made an agreement with myself: I'm going to have 2 solid years of Al-Anon under my belt before I even contemplate letting him back into my life. I figure by the end of 2 years, I'll be thinking correctly. It's just a little game I have going with myself right now.
Do you have any of the literature, such as Courage to Change?
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Resentment is like taking poison & waiting for the other person to die. Malachy McCourt
The "ton of potential" is something we've all told ourselves. In my case, it was an excuse for "I can't give up hoping on him, because I couldn't handle my feelings if we separated." It scared me to death. That was my addiction -- him. The "ton of potential" was my addiction trying to give me reasons to stay with him -- screaming at me to stay with him, not to stop taking my addictive substance. It turns out that the peace and serenity I feel being out of the chaos are so much better than what I was going through. My addiction was screaming at me that I'd curl up and die if I couldn't be with him -- but my addiction had no idea how peaceful my life could be if I made the healthy choices.
I hope you can get to some meetings and work with a sponsor. You shouldn't have to go through this by yourself. Hugs.
Debilyn- you are absolutely right about everything you say. I may feel differently in the future about ala teen but right now I don't feel my son would want anything to do with it. Thank god he has never witnessed any of the ABF drinking. He actually lives full time with his dad. I'm hoping to change the ratio if time he spends with me as soon as I get in my feet and can better provide for him. His dad worked so much during the first 14 years of his young life that he is now finally making an effort to cut back and be more active in his life. I support that and thinks it's great that the tables are turned since I was the stay home mom for 14 years. My son needs his father and I think this is a good time for them to reconnect. He needs his mom too, so this is an opportunity for me to get better as well and set a good example.
Yes we have victims assistance program here but funds are very limited. To be honest I don't see that as a good option for me. The house I am in is paid for so I only have to worry about paying the taxes. Most definately a budget friendly situation. Also when my divorce is settled I will be in a much better finincial situation. I do work for myself an I am working on some self promotions to increase my business. Self confidence has been issue and I believe with help and some time that will get better as will my work.
RLC-thank you. You are right and I am working towards being able to "know" what you say and learn all I can so I will have the knowledge and skills to do the right thong
Abbyal- oh yes I need to help myself. You were blunt and dead on. Did I think of my son when I took those pills? Yep an in that state of mind I was in I had convinced myself he would be better with out me. Insane! I know this now and I know how sick I was. I also realized immediately that I had been given a gift, the gift was waking up. I don't take that lightly. I'm not "healed" by any means but I dang sure learned a lot from that. I'm sure that has a lot to do with why I am here now. I am not perfect and I have a lot to learn. I have a lot of healing and growing to do and it starts with me and only me.
Jerry- thank you. I did read my post again. Wow. I think I really need to educate myself about this disease so I can try to get my head around it so I can keep my brain in it's box lol
Youfoundme- Gail- Mattie - thank you as well. Thank you for letting me I wasn't alone in my felling of wantin to "help" or that second chance.
Everyone has given me food for thought. I look forward to my f2f tonight. I know over the next weeks I will learn a lot. I don't have any literature yet. I do hope to find a sponsor, quickly I hope.
Oh, so glad you're here and so glad to read your last post!! I'm glad you're taking such important first steps in a very life changing experience. Seeking help for myself changed my life. I relate to the "ton of potential" thing. That was, for me, pretty much every guy I ever dated. They were all totally misunderstood, had tons of potential, and were so awesome. Except for the (minor) fact that they were all a little bit addicted to some kind of substance (only a little). And nobody but me understood them or saw their potential. I *knew* I was right, and I wanted to be the one that made their lives all better! UGH.
My exAH shoved me into a wall once. I knew that was abuse, and that was it - we separated that night and that's where it ended. However, I didn't realize until much after the fact that all the verbal threats, meanness, name calling, blaming, etc. was also abuse. While I didn't think that I deserved it or brought it on myself, I did think that that's just the way he was. Well ... maybe that IS the way he is, I don't know. I do know that regardless of how he is, I do not deserve to be talked down to or treated as less than. It is up to me to stand up for myself, because nobody else is going to. It is also up to me to set an example for my children through my own actions about valuing themselves enough to take care of themselves, even if they feel like they'll be missing out on something (potentially) wonderful by leaving. Recovery has taught me to live in the WHAT IS, not the WHAT COULD BE. WHAT COULD BE does not exist.
Addiction has a way of twisting your thoughts and making truly insane things seem sane. So glad that you're seeking help for yourself. :)
Oh white rabbit you have no idea how what you just said made me feel. I read that an could have thought I wrote it myself!! Thank you for sharing that with me. You hit so close to home for and just confirmed what already know, that is that I'm ready to heal and I most definatley am in the right place!!!!
You are right about him having potential....potential to hit you again, traumatize your son, and further ruin your life. I fully get that you love him. There may be passion. You might "click" together in some ways. You feel sorry for him... Here is what I was told by my sponsor:
When your heart and your head are not matching on an issue...you need to back off of it. Where is he gonna be in a few months? The same place right? You can make a decision to take him back then if you want. Just work on your own serenity for a few months and keep your distance from him....detach. I bet you ANYTHING you will be wondering what the heck you were thinking with regard to the relationship if you just give yourself that time for you and your son.