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I didn't know and didn't know that I didn't know



and so part of my "coming to understand" included college and the rooms of the
Al-Anon Family Groups and the program as suggested. I learned about Denial
and Diminishing the problem and Delusion.

Aloha...my mind has been on former sponsors and wise oldtimers in the program
who raised me...most of them women and yet one of these was a male; important
for me cause I didn't have any good male mentoring when I was growing and how
could I from alcoholism on both sides of my family tree. My former male sponsor
I have learned is now 80 yoa with an early onset of Alzheimers. My love and concern
level is higher because I reminish on what he gave away to me when younger and
in better condition.

He was there during the "Don't know and don't know that I don't know" years and
taught me to accept my wife as my wife and as my alcoholic. I didn't know about
alcoholism so my expectations were those of a person who wasn't under the influence
of a mind and mood altering chemical with a compulsion to drink up to and including
near fatal conditions. I didn't know because that was also apart of how I existend
and drank. Normal so without a clue.

In early Al-Anon we used to read the definition of Alcoholism at the start of every
meeting; thank God and so I learn my spouse had a disease and wasn't a morally
corrupt individual a "bad" person. I got over the idea that she had a choice when
I absorbed from the definition that she had a compulsion followed by the allergy
coupled with the obsession to drink regardless of awareness that it was killing her.

Part of the lesson was in a metaphor my sponsor taught me for acceptance of the
facts..."If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, chances
are it is really A DUCK!!" Today I laugh everytime I see a duck (daily) because my
mind says, "there goes my alcoholic" yay I got it!!

Alcoholics are NOT normal...mind, body, spirit and emotions...they cannot be normal
other than to be normally alcoholic. Expecting the duck to be something other than
the duck is denial, delusion and diminishing reality. She's drunk I'm uneducated
and unaware. She has a reason to be under the influence and mine is that I'm
trying to find "normal" in "insanity"...okay living in the disease is normally insane.

QUACK!!

I'm passing on what love for me in early program did for me then and I am passing
it on because I was told that in order to keep my recovery I had to give it away...
without charge or hope for compensation other than retaining my sanity. The elders
of the program taught me this and in reflection and memory of their love and
compassion and time and effort which they freely spent on this alien life form I use
to admit to I experience gratitude and hope at the very same time.

So there!! Keep coming back.

(((((hugs))))) smile.gif

-- Edited by Jerry F on Wednesday 12th of January 2011 06:06:39 PM

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Thank you Jerry, Wow thats powerful!!

-- Edited by Bettina on Wednesday 12th of January 2011 05:55:47 AM

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Jerry Thank you
I have been in denial. My sponsor helped me open my eyes.
I needed this post.

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smile Thank you I too really needed this!

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Oh Jer I agree, agree, agree.

thank you for putting this in a way that only you can do!
Just gotta accept them as is, love them and learn to live with them or NOT.

Gads jer, I woke at four thirty, opened my slider, is a bit warmer here. now i woke up my little rooster Jesse who is at my bedroom slider now crowing in the dark. Just sticks his head into my bedroom and hollers.... I like to let the rainie air in....mmmm

I like how you share that it does help us to understand the disease. YES we need to take care of us, but I know for me learning the dynamics of the disease, helped me to love him, and not get engaged in the bolony as it was just a pac man talking nonsense. sticks and stones...

I am going back to bed....wondering what your air smells like there....go take a huge breath for me.

love,deb



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Thanks Jerry.
Quack!! that made me laugh. Needed that!
I have been expecting the "ducks" in my life to be something they are not and therefore myself have suffered the pains of living in denial and delusion. Acceptance is the key. I appreciate all you have done.

Kath

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Good stuff, Jerry, thanks. Yes, I didn't know that I didn't know, and still I am thinking I don't know...

Right now I am having some difficulty with the duck poop that is being tracked and smeared through my house and my life, though I'm not quite sure if it is coming from the duck or the 17 yr old that is disguised as one.   Doesn't really matter, though, huh, its still a mess and I gotta figure out how to deal with it so its liveable for me.

Of course, that just brings me to al-anon and back to Steps 1 2 and 3
... and on we go...

I will keep coming back!

Blessings,
Lou

-- Edited by Loupiness on Wednesday 12th of January 2011 10:10:13 AM

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Thanks Jerry..... and who said you were "quackers", lol

My wise old sponsor used to say to me, over and over:


"Quit expecting a sick and irrational person to behave in healthy and rational ways...."

Tom

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thanks jerry!

I remember an elder asking me... "which do you think is more insane, an abnormal person who thinks they are normal or a sane person who expects the abnormal to function with normality?"  I just thought for a moment and said,... "well, they probably both need some professional help." LOL

When alcoholism is considered a family diease, so is the denial that is a part of the alcoholic package.

John

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Great share brother!  Thank you for quacking me up.

David

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