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Another step back


I feel as though I keep getting punished over and over again.  In the months before my split from my 20 year relationship with my A.  I somewhat pushed him away.  I did things I'm not proud of and then when he blindsided me and up and left and things spiraled out of control, it was to late. 

He keeps hitting with me blow after blow after blow.  Everything with him is so extreme and I dont know if it's to intentially hurt me, or if good things just keep happening over and over to him. 

He somehow (and I have no idea how or any details as we don't speak at all) is obtaining things that I dreamed for my entire life.  Something that I wanted so badly since I was a child, and he knows all this.  Is he getting these things to intentionally hurt me, or are they just falling into his lap?  Everytime I think i'm doing ok and trying to find things for me and be happy....its just another blow from him. 

I'm begging God to please stop punishing me with throwing the good he's getting out of his 'new' life.  I wish I could move on and find my dreams, but unfortunately, my dreams have to be put on hold because I have 3 remaining kids at home that I still have to raise and be responsible for.  So I'm basically stuck....and with a lot of debt because of it.  After all that he did over all these years, things work out so well for him, and me.....I'm just here seeing it all and being pushed down deeper and deeper into my hole. 


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Hi Sdisnie,

Although I am not a newcomer to alanon, I have not posted before.

Your post truly speaks to what I'm feeling and going through now. I had been married to my exHA for over 18 years. My exHA had created so much debt, and no matter how many times I paid it off, he accrued more than I could ever handle. I hadn't found alanon tools until after I felt forced to divorce him so that we all would not wind up homeless.

I have felt myself trying to climb out of the deep bottomless hole for a long time. I think I may be out of it... but can't really tell yet. I have struggled with having faith in my HP and work on that daily. I have come to understand that I am not being punished, but, in my case, I have been struggling against HP... I thought my direction was certainly how I planned it, but I now accept this is not the case. I am trying to let go so that I will be on the course HP intended. It is blind faith and I am realizing this is the only way for me to get to a better place.

All my dreams were wrapped up in this man, our marriage, and our daughter. All I ever wanted was a family unit. He met his fiance in AA and will be remarried next month. All he is interested in now is forging his new life, even at the expense of our daughter. He cannot seem to please his fiance enough and this hurts and makes me feel angry because he didn't place an effort for our relationship.

Our daughter is turning 19- and I remember placing so much on 'hold' while raising her. I did take classes, completed my MBA and learned a few hobbies during this time and found this helpful.

He still knows how to push my buttons, and I still am working on my program so I am not as affected by his words and actions... it is a slow process for me...progress, not perfection. I'm trying to focus on myself and make a life for myself. I'm interviewing for new work and doing my best to expand my circle of friends. None of this comes quickly or easily, but I would like to believe that positive efforts will eventually have positive results.

I'll pray for you- I know there is a way for you to climb out of your hole. Keep coming back. Lots of hugs!!!

aka "Carmen"



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wow, how can I word this -- yes whatever he is or is not doing, to hurt you intentionally -taking in that level of soul slaughtering pain in ~ you are taking that into you, you are owning that for him, you cannot and are not responsible for him or his disease.  You are responsible for you and your feelings.  You are all that really truly matters.  Become willing to believe this.  Forgive YOUrself for whatever u did in the past and surrender it to HP/God.  Then focus on YOU not ur AH and dont compare yourself to anyone.  I used to do that too and it creates fear, insecurity and it steals love for the self. 

You can have dreams again but first it takes time to get to re-discover the self and by loving the self, that happens as u keep working it in recovery.  It is codependent to focus on another person and it enables the disease to thrive in you both.  It models enabling for kids.  So working it, focusing on you, loving YOU ~ I had to do this with God bc I didnt know how.  I asked to be shown how to love me, practically. 
   If ur in a sm town or soemthing and thats why the stuff is thrown in ur face, u just see it out - surender it to HP/god that moment - cry, laugh, whatver u have to do to let it go and give it to god.  These are opportunities to work in program.  It hurts, awareness is painful but u dont have to hold onto it.  Forgiveness sets u free.  I was resistent too and it is a painful process but then it is over and gone and u are truly freed, liberated from it.  That pain keeps us tied to people thru abuse in the past.  Another thing I learned is that my feelings arent (necessarily) "the truth" they are just my feelings.  My sick perception had my reality all askew.  Emotions are strong energy but they pass, they are completely transient and can wash over you, if ur willing to feel through them. 

For me everything in program came down to my willigness - bc I had to first become willing to listen to a new idea so I could actually try it.  HOW Honest, Open minded and Willing is the fastest way.  By surrendering and becoming willing to turn this over I could stop suffering in the present and leave it in the past.  Bc for twenty years all I did was dread the future, re-live past pains - making them a reality.  By surrendering and asking for forgiveness, forgiving myself for poor choices and for being human, forgiving others for what they did to me - bc I didnt want that pain-tie anymore. 

Accept I can only control me not the everyone else and the universe -so- stop fixating on outcomes and the future -- focus on what I can to do allow me to feel better today/right now.  What can I help me with & then as a parent, what ur kids need.  Teach them to let go and forgive and love the self too.  All we have is this moment - tomorrow doesnt exist and no one knows the future - yesterday is past - today, now u can take action if you want to.  I didnt know I had choices or could even think for myself, truly.  I was programmed to do for others.  Focsuing on me was all new and an entirely different experience.  It has taught me so much more about what love is and what my HP is.  Your kids will emulate u on your road to health and recovery. 

I do not belive god punishes us -anymore- but I did think that at one time, too.  It is bc of what ur focusing on.  Focus on you and forgive you.  Your inner child is in ther waiting for u to take her by the hand and reparent where others left off.  I used to beg god to take these negatvie feelings from me -and for a long time it didnt work.  I discovered that bc of free will god wont take anything from me -but- if I become -willing to- hand it over, let god worry about the future and all of the details... my job is to love me like god loves me - be present in this moment and enjoy this life.  It is fleeting and the only one I have.  Self love is about self preservation.  Being a martyr gets you dead.  If you start with you, there is so much more to give - it is exponential and keeps expanding.

As far as my buttons used to go - bc I have very few buttons at all anymore ~ I decided I was tired of being irritated constantly  (part of that stress was due to my own undiagnosed ADD which has recently been rectified) and I knew that the common denominator was me.  After all I did not want to particpate in manipuatlive relationships anymore bc that was the dynamic with my parents.  I wanted to change that about me.  I would no longer respond to the manipulative - when I come across it I say no.  Most of the irritations came from me expecting or demanding anything from others that - they didnt "give me".  When I recognized this I said - its immature and I choose not to act that way now, so I let go of being demanding and expecting outcomes. 

My "buttons" are my triggers, they are things for some reason, am giving too much credit or validity.  I also found that most of my pain was in my ego and when I did the forgiveness work and became more humbled - I could see the ego more as  a way to outwardly esteem myself thru social interactions, in society or with people -- I chose to focus on me 100% and my HP.  Stepping away from the ego - lets u experience your emotions more objectively.  I still have to feel through them -feel, deal, heal- Im talking about when i was trying to deal with the feelings.
    When I take a pause and feel that rush of energy in the emotion -- instead of jumping up, autmotaically reacting to it - but sit and feel it.  Feel it fully for five minutes.  Then the biggest surge of it, is over, it is like a wave.  Ok, so maye at first I would sit and feel it for 15 or 20 minutes or longer but now with practising it, it only takes a few mins. now.

My reactions, triggers, buttons, dont have to control me, I dont have to allow them to, I can choose to control me and by feeling my feelings through first, I actually can think objectively and respond however I think and want to, what will be the best way for me to respond - bc there are always consequences to oour choices.  I have to be ready to accept that as it occurs too and by giving up my fear by not focusing on future unreal events - but focusing on what is hp's will for me.

When u love you first - you are no longer looking outside of you for validation from others.  You love you first, god is there with you.  We practise and excersize faith in god and, by focusing on now -that gives us something to remind us to do -to not fixate on future outcomes.  Those are fantasies and for me a lot of them were fearful.  Fear destroys love.  I now take fear as a -sign from my body/mind to redirect my thinking.  When I think about what I can do right now - to do something positive, to create something, that brings me close to my hp/god.  The divine is nothing if it is not creative.  lol

I like that I am surprised by life now.  I really was jaded and sick bc of all the things I held onto, man, I had a mountain of resentments and I was very negative.  Even with my own self talk, I was abusive and I was perpetutaing it.  You know, people can hurt you if you belive the words they are saying.  We give it the meaning.  If you belive you are inherently "good" -ugh- hate to speak that way, (using good/bad -is a judgment) or if ur like me and felt u were no good - dont believe that -it is NOT true.  We are here, as children of god, we are designed to love and be loving.  Our lives are to be enjoyed.  I was suicidal and the day I actually tried to work program - in fact it was three years ago now -- I had already been at MIP working it for two years, full time (hyperfocsuing on it w/ my ADD) - setting boundaries, trying to love me - anyway I had the suicidal ideations for 25 yrs - I attempted over twenty one years - three times, three different ways.  At 15, 36 & 39.  The last time I was completely sober, extremely angry.  Had set up for it weeks in advance, so it was an impulsive act -or- it was easy for me to act it out if I wanted.  ugh.  Anyway, I was there and I knew what i was doing was going to work in about 1 minute, Id done thorough research (3 strikes ur out right, that would have been humiliating, so I made sure it was it)  -- my cat was there, talking to me, moewoing a lot, her face was all crumpled up, worried. 
     The thought came into my head, this is a choice, you have not even begun to live.  I decided to actually try it - try program, try it for real, 100%, take the leap of faith.  Besides, I can always try hurt myself if program doesnt work out.  lol As long as u are alive u have choices.

I got right down and went into the chat room here & a good friend from there at night - popped in and said I was nudged, urged to come in here right now.  He was at work and didnt requent chat during the days.  Well he let me completely vent it all on him for an hour or more and he forgave me for it and said this is now all new. 

That is the truth.  Look around you at what u see, what do you have... think about every little thing u can be grateful for and -enjoy it, celeberate it.  Where there is life, there is hope and love and forgiveness.  Focus on what you want to manifest bc what we focus on grows.

(oops, lol, sorry this was so long but it all poured out, guess I needed to write) smile

Take care of YOU whatver that looks like.



-- Edited by kitty on Saturday 17th of April 2010 01:35:12 PM

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I learned in program and then came to believe with the help of the program that
I hurt myself more than anyone else can.  "I take offense" for one was, after
much reflection, something I constantly was in the habit of doing.  Try another
perspective and ask a sponsor to help you with detachment or the meetings you
go to because it seems you have kept the attachment.   Keep coming back 
(((((hugs))))) smile

"What is MY part in it all? ...is a meaningful question."  

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I am really sorry that you believe that god punishes. I used to think that also but have found out that its my perspective, only my perspective, not necessarily the truth at all.

I had the perspective that there was blame and punishment and hard black and white justice and that I was being punished. I no longer believe that and yes, its simply a belief, not necessarily a truth. I have my perspective. I can adjust my perspective in all manner of ways. I can control this, in fact, its one of the few things I can control. Just like I can adjust what I eat, how I exercise, etc. I am flexible and I laugh more. I no longer believe in any kind of punishment whatsoever- I do not believe I deserve to be punished. I do not believe that I need to punish others. I believe in the power of unconditional loving compassion which breeds detachment with love. My HP taught me alot about this and continues to.

Your children are your miraculous gift! Cherish your time with them! hugs, J.

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