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First of all, thank you everyone for your encouraging replies to my last post.
Wow, this morning was both amazing and rough at the same time.
It was amazing to me that my husband actually went to detox. A few weeks ago I would have told you all that this would never happen. But I believe that me working my program (even though it's only been 4 or 5 weeks) has helped me detach, which has helped HP step in and do His thing. Part of my detaching was separating our finances (he has his own bank account now and is responsible for paying for all of his own things...car, cell phone, etc...without touching the mortgage money). I think that left him unable to afford his drugs, and since he couldn't afford them, he probably started to have trouble with withdrawal and reached out for help with the withdrawal symptoms. I know that he tried a counselor first, who told him they couldn't help him, so then he tried outpatient, but they wouldn't take him because they said he had to be medically detoxed first. So there he was, left with two choices....either go to detox or start stealing and/or doing horrendous things to get his drug money. Thankfully he chose detox. I truly believe none of this would have happened without this program, because without it I wouldn't have tried to detach, which means I wouldn't have separated the finances, which means I'd still be enabling his addiction.
The rough part was dropping him off. When we got there, they took him in for an assessment appointment, where he had to disclose every gory detail of everything he's been doing, and he came out so upset and looking like the most depressed being on Earth. After that, it was time for me to say goodbye, which made him even sadder. The image stuck in my mind of his face reminds me of a sad puppy being dropped off at the pound. The other rough part besides that mental image is that I am obviously addicted to him! I had begun to detach, but it's only been a few weeks, so most of my world still revolves around thinking/worrying/obsessing about him...about what he's doing, what he's not doing, what to do about what he's doing or not doing...etc. Now all of a sudden he's ripped out of my life for about 5 days...no phone contact or visiting allowed. So I'm starting to have withdrawl from my obsession!
Thankfully, I was able to get to my f2f meeting tonight. I've been going to 1 or 2 f2f a week for the past 4 or 5 weeks, and I want to go to even more now, but babysitting is hard to come by...especially without him around. I did make it there tonight, though, and I'm so glad I did. The support was great.
One thing I am very nervous about right now is that I know his parents will be calling me soon. His side job is working for the family business, and he ALWAYS works Fridays and Saturdays, and on the RARE occasion that he misses a day, it's always just one day, not both days. He left them a message last night that he was sick and wouldn't be at work both days. They're going to know that something is up and they're going to try to call him, but his cell phone is off since he couldn't bring it. So then they're going to call me freaking out about what's going on and they're going to want answers. This I do not know how to handle! He doesn't want them to know, but I don't want to lie, but I don't want them to worry themselves sick. Any ESH on this one would be so very much appreciated.
I have never been able to figure out what to tell the parents. I think it's important that you reassure them that he's safe and uninjured..... but I don't know how you would do that without telling them what's going on. I guess you could try saying that he'll tell them what he's up to when he's ready? I don't know what the right answer is.
I'm just feeling some compassion for you, for your husband and for your husband's family. I think they should know he's safe where he is. And I feel you are doing a fantastic job at detaching and taking care of yourself. You've done a great job. Keep up the good work!
Aloha Sterling...I will hold on to this post of yours as it hints of a beginning of a miracle and I just love miracles. I can remember the start (almost every step) of the miracle of recovery in my life. You do what it is that you have to do at the time not even aware that HP is moving and shifting and tweaking and rearranging things in and out of the way and then after you've done and continue to do your part and everyone else is doing theirs...smile...it arrives; peace of mind and soul.
You can only do this one day at a time. Keep doing it and the miracle will come for you. If you don't mind I'll keep watching and listening.
A wonderful opportunity for you to begin the focus on you (easy to say, hard to do) and begin to learn what Sterling likes and dislikes, what Sterling's feelings are . . . etc.
A good CAL piece of literature is "When I got busy, I got better." That's helpful to me when I want to get into someone else's life.
Have a wonderful weekend, Maria
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Wow! You're doing great! Your post was very inspirational to me. Thank you. I wanted to reply to your question with some of my own experience about responsibility. There are some great readings about this subject in ODAT and CTC. As you have helped your husband take responsibility for his finances, I too had to detach and allow my AH take responsibility for his life. I used to buy his alcohol, deal with his lawyer, speak for him at the hospital, run interference for him with interactions with society ( including family) etc. But I was enabling the power of his disease in all these actions. Perhaps you can gently but firmly let them know that you will let your nubby know they called, but not interfere in your nubby's relationship with them?
First I want to say, way to go you! You set boundaries and took care of yourself first and are now reaping the rewards. I am so happy for you and your husband.
On the subject of what to tell the inlaws, I wanted to share with you what happened to me (a little different story background, but basically the same situation). My now ex-husband and I had a similar experience happen when he was admitted to a mental ward due to self-harming when he had a nervous breakdown due to his dealing with his alcoholic father's sexual abuse as a child. He had been in therapy, but just had a total meltdown one morning and tore up the stove when it wouldn't open (due to the cleaning lever sliding over and locking the door) and when I tried to calm him down he started hitting himself in the head and running at me and his one-year old daughter hitting himself in the head. I left the house immediately and called 911 and the police came and took him to the Western Missouri Mental Health Center, where they take the really bad cases. I was so sorry to see him have to go in there.
Once there I didn't call his parents (of course) and tell them of this incident because of the incest. But due to their over-controlling nature and the fact that they called him at least twice a week for the entire period of our 12 year marriage, they started freaking out when I didn't call them back. This included his sister too. In fact, at one point she called from Wisconsin (where she lives) and threatened to come down and find out what was going on. This was weird, because we lived in Missouri and his parents lived in Kansas at the time and it would have been much easier for his parents to have shown up at our door, instead of the sister, but I digress.
With all this pressure being put on me to "tell" what was going on, I spent most of one night praying and then decided to confront the family about it. I called the parents and the mother answered the phone and I told her that I had something very hard to tell her, but I wanted her to know that everyone was alive and basically that was it. She wanted to put her husband on the phone and I said I don't think you want to do that (thinking that she already knew of the abuse and would "catch my drift" so to speak, but she didn't) she chose to put him on the phone.
I started out by recounting the whole story about his breakdown, then I said the breakdown was due to (I just told it like it was at this point) sexual abuse he had undergone as a child and the perpertrator was the father. (the father didn't say a word) The mother went off though and said, "That never could have happened. I was with the children all the time. I never left them alone." I respectfully said, "I know that you 'think' you never left them alone, but you couldn't be with them all the time, especially when you were at work and that's when the abuse happened, and it did happen."
The mother and I talked for quite awhile (without the father saying anything) and I was able to give her the location of the hospital where her son was staying. Eventually though we came to the point in the conversation where I said, "Maybe with God's help we can put this family back together and heal all the scars." That's when Big Bad Ugly Raised his head and Perpetrator finally spoke up, "Well we know you've made up other lies like this to get a divorce, so this is no surprise that your making up another one." I said, "Well there is no point in us continuing this conversation." so I hung up.
The reason I'm telling you the details of this situation is because if I had it to do over, I'm not sure that I would have told them over the phone what the situation was. It was really not my place to tell them my husband's business. I should have done like Rocky said, "firmly let them know that you will let your hubby know they called, but not interfere in your hubby's relationship with them." The reason I say this is because of what happened after I told them this...I became their scapegoat. I became the reason for all their family's problems (in their mind) because I had let the "cat out of the bag".
This caused endless problems for my husband and I. It put my husband in the place of having to chose between his family of origin and his family of choice (me and his daughter). Utimately, sad to say, he chose his family of origin. I don't know what difference it would have made if I had allowed him to be the one responsible for telling his family of his problem, I guess I will never know. All I know is that I handled the situation the best that I knew at the time and I did pray about it. I even had one counselor say that I did my husband a great favor by taking the burden of telling them off of him and bringing the family secret out into the open. I don't know if that is true or not, all I know is that I brought a lot of flack on myself for doing it and I don't know that that was truely "taking the best care of me" which is what we're supposed to do in al-anon.
I don't know if any of this story will help you or not, I know yours is a different situation than mine, but the telling of the in-laws is what prompted my response. It brought back a lot of unpleasant memories and ones that I hope you won't have to endure. Ultimately it is your choice how you will respond to his parents calls. I know for me I probably would have had to face them face to face eventually, because he was hospitalized for such a long time. I don't know if I could have kept up the "silent" treatment for that long, so in the end I might have had to tell them anyway, I don't know.
For me the situation is over and I have to live with how I handled it and not beat myself up that I did it wrong or right. I just have to accept it as is. I think the same will be true for you too. Just pray, ask your higher power for guidance and do what you think is best. Then accept the situation as you having done the best you could in a very difficult situation.
Good luck to you and your husband in his recovery. And remember, keep taking care of you!
Love in recovery, Overcome
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Thank you everyone for your wonderful responses! And thank you so much OC for sharing your similar experience. Reading of your experience gave me a different perspective on this dilemma....that I need to look out for myself LONG TERM. I was only thinking about the very moment of the first call (which actually has already come in the form of a text message...I haven't responded just yet). But you enlightened me to thinking that I really should look at this from both a short term and long term perspective, keeping my best interests in mind about both.
I like the idea of playing "message relay-er" and just responding that I will pass on the message. If they pursue and are clearly very worried, I will probably have to throw in a word about how he is safe, but then try to bounce right back to message relay-er if I can.
And I love that HP blessed me with the first communication being in the form of a text message, which allows me time to think before responding, and a format to respond in a very short, brief, and impersonal way. Gotta be thankful for the little things too!
Just say he is ill. They don't need to know anymore than that.
I do understand that I felt absolutely totally over responsible for the ex A day and night. Letting that go was tremendous work. You are doing that. The other thing you can do of course is not to answer the phone. Switch the phone off. Let him deal with it its not your job to soothe his parents.
Thanks maresie. I have decided to do that, at least for this evening.
I was successful for most of the weekend by responding that I would relay the message. At one point though, she (my mother in law) started asking specific questions, so I responded that "no, he is not at work, and he is not home, but he is okay. I will tell him you were asking for him". When she pursued again later on, I responded with another promise to relay the message and then took my daughter to a movie, where I turned off my phone. And now I've decided to leave it off.
Earlier in the weekend I was afraid to turn the phone off because I thought that would prompt her to come up here (they only live 20 mins away), and honestly I think she did scope the house out once (to see what cars were in the driveway) based upon one of her comments. But thankfully she didn't come to the door and confront me (my MIL has serious anger management issues and is very unstable...hence my nervousness).
I tried to be out of the house as much as possible this weekend, I took my daughter to the carnival twice and out to eat twice and to the movies. We had a great time and being busy very much distracted me from thinking about him (except when we had to drive past the detox center twice), but I did pretty good. Worrying about my psycho MIL is the only thing that's truly bothering me right now! But I think it's late enough now that I can leave the phone off and not worry about her driving up here. Then tomorrow I'll be at work so she knows I can't talk during the day. Tomorrow evening will be another story, but I'll worry about that then. Maybe I'll take my daughter to the mall. These outings are getting expensive! But it's good for me and her to stay busy and stay away from his family.
Sorry...rambling now...just needed to get these thoughts out of my head.
Thanks again everyone. Thanks to your support I am holding my ground and leaving this problem to him and his family instead of taking it on as my own.