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Growth


I started to post this as a responce to the "Once an A, always an A" thread but thought I'd start a new one.

When an alcoholic gets sober, and begins to accumulate some sobriety, changes do begin immediately but not as fast as we'd like them to.

Usually the physical improvement comes first.  The body, even if badly damaged, usually responds readily when we stop putting a toxic substance into it on a regular basis.  The human body is remarkable in its ability to heal itself.  If only our brains and spirits could do as well!

The mental repairs happen next.  The ability to remember things, function, skills, learning - that generally comes around pretty quickly too, as long as there has been no permanent damage.

Then comes spiritual.  Some of us get instant, dramatic spiritual experiences that come ahead of everything else, but for the vast majority we have a slow awakening there, and it is the result of the program, not the cause of it.  Step 12 says "Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps..." 

And unfortunately... for almost all of us, the alcoholics *and* the codependents and those of us "lucky" enough to be both (LOL)... the last growth is emotional.  I've never heard of anyone having instant emotional growth.  It seems less likely than spontaneous healing of a skull fracture.  Perhaps it is because our emotional "maturity" (I cringe to use the word) can only come about from experience.  There's simply no other way.  As an alcoholic myself, my years of drinking served the purpose of shielding me from emotional experience (as well as spiritual) so upon putting the plug in the jug, I found myself right where I started.  There have been no short cuts in emotional growth for me.  But I can see that in 20 years, there has been some.  I can also see - just from doing the math - that I won't live long enough to be an "emotional grownup".  There just aren't enough ticks left on the clock.  But I take some comfort in knowing that the maturity so often referenced (and making me cringe) is a fantasy, mostly one people apply to themselves.  As in, "I am, you're not". 

And we Alanons love that one don't we?  We, the long suffering spouse, parent, child, sibling, or friend of an alcoholic... we're the mature one, the A is the immature one and even sober, will always be well behind us and we can always feel superior on account of that.  Yeah right!!!  What a ticket to our own continued misery and martyrdom!  We can continue to be self-righteous, self-pitying martyrs whether the alcoholic is still drinking or not! 

Maybe I'm a bit more touchy about this one having been hit with it from both sides, and literally swung from one to the other... multiple times.  I got sick of the motion sickness actually.  There is no joy in proclaiming myself superior to someone else, whether I say it out loud or simply think smugly to myself, "jeez, so immature... I'm not like that".  The truth is, I *am* like that.  Just wait and see.  I guarantee you, any behavior or trait that I condemn - either out loud or to myself - I will exhibit in some form within 24 hours.  If not 24 minutes.

To expect an alcoholic to meet our expectations and our own standards for "growth" or "emotional maturity" within a human lifetime is unrealistic.  To expect it within early sobriety is a pipe dream.  To expect it from an active alcoholic is a form of insanity equal to the disease itself.  The ONLY thing we can expect from recovery is... progress.  Not perfection.  For us, for them.

I'm coming up on 20 years sober.  I've been reflecting on all that is good in my life today, none of which would be possible without sobriety.  And all that is good in my life today because of my Alanon program, which teaches me things about relationships and acceptance that don't get covered in AA.  And then I turn my chair around, knocking something off the desk onto the floor, and have a temper tantrum like a 2 year old baby.  I used to beat myself up for that - I'd bust myself in rank back to baby, berate myself at my "total failure".  But now - once I stop yelling anyway - I look at it as God's way of telling me that I'm still human, and he's never going to let me up on a horse so high that I can't survive the inevitable fall.

Barisax


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(((Barisax)))

WOW... You def. went deep... Loved the share, there is so much to take from that, that most of us cant see or don't want to... I see myself in alot of the ways you think...I too founght Alcohol and I too grew up on that A world... And I do at times look at my brother and think...When will YOU be the mature one...And now that it has been laid out so neatly... I jsut realized...He will when he is ready... And it isn't for me to judge...So thank you for waking me up to my own realization...

this one I will be coming back to more times then not...

Thanks again for your share....
Friends in Recovery...
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Wow Barisax, thanks for the thoughtful reminder. I needed it tonight. My alcoholic husband has 21 years sober and I sometimes think he has NO emotional maturity at all. But I know better. He is progressing at his own pace and I'm progressing at mine.

Lately I've been trying to establish a healthier level of involvement in my A's life. Because of some health issues he has had lately (on life support 4 times in the last 14 months at the age of 75), I fell back into the routine of doing everything for him.

Now I'm beginning to realize that I need to back off and quit doing for him what he can do for himself. I had been backsliding into my own disease, and I'm only robbing him of his manhood and his integrity to wait on him hand and foot. Your summary of the recovery process really hit me at the right time. Recovery from one disease is very much like recovery from another, in my view, and I've been very codependent as my A recovers from this one.

Thanks for the heads up.

Gran in Texas

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Thanks for your thoughtful post.  It took a long time and a few 4th and 5th steps to discover "my true motives and my will" in all my relationships.  I was driven by fear (not compassion and love as I thought )and my emotional maturity was nearly non existant.  You see I was too busy making sure everyone else was becoming responsible adults and hiding behind their alcoholism so as not to learn how to have to take care of me.

I loved this thought: 

"There is no joy in proclaiming myself superior to someone else, whether I say it out loud or simply think smugly to myself, "jeez, so immature... I'm not like that".  The truth is, I *am* like that.  Just wait and see.  I guarantee you, any behavior or trait that I condemn - either out loud or to myself - I will exhibit in some form within 24 hours.  If not 24 minutes."

Thanks to HP I can admit that i am not perfect and simply human and will always need this program  Progress not Perfection is my goal.



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Barisax,

thank you for your post. I got a lot out of it. It is good to see things from both sides.

buick

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I am so incredibly honoured to call you a friend and even more so, a brother within this wonderful al-anon MIP family. You touched me on so many levels it was as though you have been reading my soul at times. Geesh, I have been to so many of those places.

I am also, so GRATEFUL that you have the 'double-whammy' expereience from both sides of the fence (though humbled that you have suffered so much and come through), 'cos that makes you even more special and priceless when it comes to the perceptions you have from both being an a and being a co-dependant.

Thank you for this. It was something I needed to hear today, and I will be pondering your words for some days to come. It has already helped me figure out some 'stuff' that I did not want to visit and that I keep under wraps; however, I now feel I can take some of that 'stuff' out and examine it safely having gained a perception I did not have before I read your post this afternoon.

May you keep on walking that path to recovery, knowing that YOU are a special person in the eyes of many - however, for now "Here's looking at you kid!" - you're doing fine. Who cares where the goal posts are in recovery...as long as you and me are advancing towards them that is all that matters here, and the nearer we get the better. I'm walking with you - so lead on 'McDuff'!

Suzannah
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