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oh God he came back. Why did I let him and his clan in?


I am feeling like I am losing my mind. I spoke to my A and he was supposed to be be on his way home, which he knew I was against, and brought his little twin clan of partyers with him. this is MY Apartment.


How do I put my foot down?


Now I am getting scared.



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Tell them all to get out. NOW! If you are frightened, call the police. Don't allow yourself to be bullied. Diva

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You have every right to ask them to leave ,,,and stand by it.  It IS your apartment and you have the right to not let their choices spoil your Christmas.  They have their choices, but so do you!


Be strong ... look out for yourself!  We love you!


Love and Hugs,


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he just pushed his way in here demanded food and sleep. My daughter is over and we hardly ever get to spend time together. Now that he has passed out. I don't know what to do. I just got back to the website to check on my posts. I want to call the cops, have them haul him out of here as sleepy and xxxx up as he is. He pays for stuff for me and hold it over my head. After 2 years I began to think that I may never be able to do it alone. But isn't that letting a man rule my life. I am disabled, very low income, I found out today that I have a good friend who is willing to help me a little $ when this all comes to pass. He keeps saying, just give me till after new years. Why? All he has given me is grief, except for the times we are all lovey dovey and life is wonderful. I can't stand the switching moods. I deal with that with my own mental illness. I am sorry for buggin everyone. I wish I could just pack him a little bag. Call the cops and get him taken out of here awake, willing, asleep or whatever.


 


Any suggestions now?


I don't want to wake up tomorrow like this. It was so nice last night without him harrassing me.


When I confronted him=he turned it all against me. All the xxxx I do to piss him and stress him out. What about me? He is denying the central issue he is a drunk that needs help.


I need help or I will end up getting suicidal again.


not that way now. Got my kid, but can't seem to handle her visit. Sucks I know she can't spend the night. It never works out. two bipolars in the same room.


some of this don't have to do with the Active A, but it is the life I face and I Have to talk about it with someone.


suggesstions, ESH please



-- Edited by canadianguy on Friday 20th of March 2009 11:30:16 AM

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Please listen to DIVA.  Get him out.  Call the cops and get him out.  Tell them just what you said here - he forced his way in and you're scared.  Take care of yourself and your daughter.  He can deal with his own issues.  You don't need to try and deal with him if it is going to affect your health.  If you think that he might come back, is there some place where you can go for a few days?  I wish you luck.  Keep yourself safe.


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 If you honestly believe your life is in danger from your loved one, call the police, ask for their help. Tell them that he came home drunk, and fill them in on the details like you filled us in.


 If you honestly believe your life is in danger from yourself, go to the most local hospital, and ask for help. Explain what has been happening, and tell them you're afraid you may hurt yourself. They will help you.


 By not doing anything, you're enabling your problems.



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you are asking for experience. I called the police and got a restraining order.


period no more discussion.


He is asleep call them



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deb, tiger, keth, irish, experience,


call the police


do it.


must be bounderies. must be consequences to crossing them.


with love


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You asked,,,and we answered....Looks like we are all thinking alike, no more "wishing to get him out! Put your foot down and just do it!...New years,,,then Valentines,,then Monday,,,,,it will never end,,,,,mean what you say ,,but dont say it mean!.....Good luck...................gardengal

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Well he actually told me as calm as can be tonight that he don't think this relationship is working out. Wants to get his own place. Maybe God is looking out for me. But I can't seem to let loose of the financial thing. I think the one main thing keeping me with him is he supports me financially. I know I truly love him, but he has just become someone I do not enjoy and most of the time especially at night I just want to chill bymyself.


I am guilty, confused, hurt, scared, you name it. I agree with you. In the meantime, the next episode will end with him woken up in handcuffs and it will be a very violent scene I know.


 


Anyone have thoughts on that?



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Well I have a lot of thoughts on the financial issues. First and foremost the issue is for me enmeshment. I over the years got tremendously enmeshed with the A. I also lost a lot of confidence which its really taken me one year of al anon to get through. I also became incredibly isolated (he played up the isolation whenever he could).


I think it may take a while to unravel the strands.  For me its taken a year of concerted effort to detach, separate out.  I am in a space now where one of the large financial issues that tied me to the A is going to be out of the picture.


There are ways to start to unravel the financial stuff, get support, get as much help as you can, become more self reliant.  I think there is also an issue for me of keeping the A at bay emtionally he loves to be on this roller coaster crisisthon.  I have to work really hard not to be pulled in.


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If your name is on the lease, and not his then he is trespassing!  Call the police and have him haul him and his friends out the door!  Bottom line.  If you are not comfortable with him being there (which you are obviously not from the way your post sounds) especially when he is up then do everything you can to get him out of there.  At any time when you feel unsafe and scared, don't delay. 


As for him paying for things.  While not having the A pay for things does put a financial burden on us, I'd rather have that than have a broken arm. Or God forbid something worse.  Please, please stay safe.  He may say that he wants to get an apartment, but maybe he's buying time.  The next time may be too late.  Don't let him stay there, I beg you.  I've seen it happen too often


Recovery is about taking your life back. If you don't have a life to take back what's the point?  I know this sounds harsh, but sometimes it's necessary.  Your too valuable a human being to die for his disease.  You can do this.  We will help you.  You are not alone in this fight. But you have to be safe first.  The rest will come.


Live strong,


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well, now I not only have you wonderful folks telling me to get him out, but others not in the program as well. My dad really likes him. I know I bring a lot of it on with my problems with my mental illness, which is genetic and I just am confused.


I am going to my parents house tomorrow for Christmas. First time to be invited to the house in a couple of years. I put my parents thru some Hell. Anyway. My A's sis said she will beat my ass if I have him locked up. How stupid. She is a drunk too.


I am forgetful. Help me with the first steps of getting him out. The courthouse is next to my apartment complex, but can I get a restraining order without a police report? I do not want to lose my hud housing cuz i had to call the cops to get someone out of my house. They might think I am a bad risk. Oh I don't know what to think. My mind is confused.


Christmas is hard this year.


I am sorry to take up so much time and space on this forum, but I am very desperate.


Any other thoughts


ESH



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hiptripchic


know what you can't control
courage to change the things you can
wisdom to know the difference


yours in recovery
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sweetie, if i were you I would go get a restraining order. The police  will serve him, and he will have to leave.


You will not lose your HUD if they know you wanted him to go and he would not go. If you call your worker yourself it would be better. If you hide it, it makes it worse.


That way he has a choice. If he comes back after the R order he puts himself in jail.


As far as  financial, I relate, but I also know hp will take care of you. I don't know what you need, but look into social programs. Places like the salvation army have federal funds to give out to help in different situations.


oh btw, do not admit to taking any financial help from  him. that would get you into trouble as if he was ok to live there they would have to consider his income.


If  you are on ssd see if you are eligible for SSI also. food credit, whatever. do not be afraid to ask for help.


do not apologize lady, that is why we are here. you are not monopolizing anything.


We all have more need for each other off and on.


Keep us posted will ya please? Please know part of our programs of recovery is service to each other. We need YOU too.


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So I can go to the courthouse and get a restraining order (how expensive)? I do not have to call the cops on him. He will be served, but see, he can't read. I know in my heart HP will take care of me, but it is hard to let go. I do truly love this man, but he has become someone that most of his heavy drinking time, I am disgusted by his presence. That sounds bad. But Can I go right to a courthouse. I know his sister will read it to him or the cops.


I first have to get the key off his chain before he leaves for work one day this week. That way, he may never notice it, I can and will need to tell Hud he had stayed with me for a while while I was sick (truth), but not admit his helping me $$., Just that I am trying to get a restraining order. He will be put on a list and those people will be arrested on site at Any Hud project at least in this county. Cool huh?


I am still hurting and very confused.


But luckily I am very excited to be going to see my parents and daughter tomorrow, back to the old homestead.  haven't been invited over in many many moons. I see it as change. They see me trying to be a responsible woman. I was way more messed up a long while back, so I thank God I am here now.


Thank you all


I need all the ESH you can think of . the contact is so helpful.



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I suspect they (HUD, the cops, all of them) are used to people being in situations where someone they once trusted is no longer trustworthy or welcome. It's not that unusual after all, look at all of us!

It's not your problem that he can't read, he'll find a way.

If he is leaving to go to work, the next time he comes back, just don't let him in. If there is not a chain on your door, go buy one and put it on - they are cheap, and easy to install. Then his key won't do him any good. You DO have some power, and some choices. It's possible to have locks changed, too, though that is more expensive and you would need permission.

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I am surprised you haven't found a temporary sponsor at an alanon meeting in your area....have you heard the phrase "When I got busy, I got better"? Are you familiar with the principle in alanon that we generally "don't advise whether to stay or to leave the relationship"? In actuality, you really are supposed to be working with a sponsor on these issues, someone that gets to know you and your situation in detail, so that you can turn to them for support in these times.......it isn't our job on the message board to tell you to put a restraining order on him, or to ask him to leave, etc., because we don't live with you, and don't know the WHOLE story....just what you are telling us at the time....


I suggest you get a copy of the do's and don'ts....and the pamphlet on "detachment", and go regularly to alanon meetings. You can't do anything about his drinking, period. Nagging him or scolding him will only aggravate the situation.....I lived with my boyfriend while he was in a relapse for the last 3 years, until 6 months ago I left the property....which his cousin owned, and he went into a halfway house and is almost 6 months sober.....if it were my house I would have changed the locks.....probably........If it were my house, I wouldn't have let him come back until he was sober.......probably.......but I moved in with HIM, on his cousin's property, so I was the one that had to leave.....


I won't tell you what to do, because it sounds like you are too afraid to let go right now. Why don't you try treating him better for the time being, and being a bit more tolerant, and maybe read the chapter in the alcoholics anonymous big book called, "to wives". It gave me everything I needed to know on how to handle the active drinker.


Merry Christmas, and stop creating so much drama.....get a SPONSOR! We as alanon members also can't enable you by continuing to support your not getting to meetings. We would be remiss if we didn't suggest meetings and a sponsor.


 



 



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The only interaction with alanon is thru the internet at this point. I had said my health was bad and it is hard to get out. No car and the meetings are all the way at the beach--the good ones anyway. If I just could get myself to sacrifice one day a week to start out with I suppose I would get myself a sponsor. I realize I tend to make excuses.


 


I appreciate all the criticism. It helps me get a better view of where I am truly at here in the real reality land.


 


Thanks, I will keep trying. Even my mom said if you can't get along, you are two volitale people and ending it for the sake of life would be smart. My folks like him a lot, but realize they can't change his behavior==or mine for that matter


 


 


by the way, had an excellent visit at my family's house. Nice end to the day. I am stuffed. My A is quietly in bed and I am going to get into my bed soon===separate beds, cant get used to sleeping with anyone ever, never have been real good at that . Better mattress anyway.


 



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You have to push yourself to call someone to pick you up for an alanon meeting.....wherever it is my dear.......the internet is for emergency....you have to start detaching from him and going. I did whatever it took to get to meetings without a car. The bus, my bicycle, calling members to come get me.


You can do the same. Start focussing on YOURSELF. You can't help him.



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Gayle this gal has said more than once she is disabled and cannot leave. This board IS for help. It is NOT just for emergencies!! Please do not mislead people who come here for help. They may see this and think well this it not really an emergency and not leave a post!!!


Many of us are handicapped, in areas where there is NO alanon, have A's who will not allow us to leave the home, have handicapped children, or children we cannot leave or take. There are innumerable reasons people come here to mip.


People who have not been here long, that do not know the atmosphere of MIP,  would be better not to say things they are wrong about.


I do not want ONE person deceived when they come here for support, love and guidance.


They are welcome to ask about whatever they like. I have been here since 2000, I will not tolerate anyone telling someone NOT to do this or say tha, or we are not here for that, or an alanon message board is not for this or that.


If this cont. I will be contacting the owner. love,debilyn



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I am sorry that you feel threated by my postings, Debilyn. I have the right, just as you do, to try to be helpful. If you find it necessary to contact the owner about my messages, then you must follow your heart. Yes, I agree that the message board can be used as a lifeline in certain situations, however, if I could get to meetings without a car, anyone could....disabled or not. Going to alanon meetings is on the Do's and Dont's list.....as well as the other principles that are listed....which are read at alanon meetings.


Thanks for your concern, Debilyn, and all the very best to you.



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Just to let those who don't understand I never said I would not go to a f2f meeting. My health is really not good right now. In fact, I just took a cab to pick up my meds and get a very few items from the store. I came home, nauseous, throwing up, so exhausted and body sore it just takes it out of me to do most anything. I am working on gettting a motorized wheelchhair. So coming here IS my emergency. I am prouder of me for coming here instead of sitting in it and those who don't agree or understand just may not have been thru what I have. I am noone special, but I have a lot on my plate physically and mentally. I know most of you welcome me as a memember of Al-anon. I do what I can. Rest a lot. Just pray for me. Don't judge. and be sweet!

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((((stacie))))


"i'm noone special" ------ lies lies lies... YOU are very special.  See, you are here walking this path with sooo many of us.  Self-care is isn't self-ish.  You do what ya can.  You come back here, ya here, for ESH, for help, for feeeeelings, ya just gotta keep coming back.  F2F are wonderful, in my experience.  This place... this place is wonderful, in my experience.  I use'em both when I can, lots of times I can't -- and that's ok... I let it go and let God.. I thank my HP for what I've got.


with love, always
cj


 



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You are right. I am special. God did not bring me this far to just drop me. I am worthy of love, life, and happiness. Happy Happy Joy Joy!


Thank yu for your post.



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