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It's been awhile since I have logged on here. I don't know how to say this other than to just say it...my husband committed suicide Thursday, July 6th.
Friggen alcoholism.
Those that know me here know that we had been having difficulties in our marriage for the past 4 yrs w/relapses and continued attempts at recovery. The day he died was his 8 month sobriety bday.
The past 4 yrs was very difficult for both of us. That bond between us had been strained and even though we had moments of hope for our future, deep down inside I knew that, for me, this marriage was done. I couldn't take the emotional rollercoaster ride anymore. I talked to him over and over about how my needs weren't being met, and even though I continued to work my Program, there was something lacking in my life. I loved the man, but I couldn't spend a lifetime w/that empty hole in me anymore.
*deep breath*....I had hung on for many years and knew that I needed to move on when I found myself having very strong feelings for a friend of mine. Maybe it wasn't so much feelings for him as it was also feelings for myself and a different life.
Trying to work an honest Program, I told my husband that I no longer could be commited to our marriage. He seemed to take it rather well to be honest. Like he knew it was coming.
Jim had put down the bottle and was going to a meeting or two a week. Friends in the Program encouraged him to hit a meeting daily (he was laid off from work so he had the time). He was talking w/his sponsor a few times a week.
Things seemed to be great when he first sobered up. That "high". Then once the newness wore off he became increasingly angry and negative. Withdrawn too. He isolated himself. Wouldn't talk much. I can't remember the last time he truely smiled and laughed.
The night he killed himself we had taken our daughter to the mall. We actually had a decent day. Came home that evening and I was on the deck doing my readings. He started talking about us doing stuff together. It was the same old song and dance. One I had heard before. "One more chance" crap. I got angry. Asked him "why now? Why since I am leaving NOW you decide to do this?" 4 yrs I held on waiting for that sober man that I married to come back..seeing glimpses of him here and there waiting on baited breath for life to resume to some what normal. All I wanted was a chance to breathe again.
I think he finally got it that I was really moving on. Anger over took him. He started saying terrible things to me when I told him "f*ck you". I was angry. I reacted, I admit. I wanted him to just stop for once. Stop blaming everyone else. Face reality and just accept it anyway he could.
He got up from his chair and had rage in his eyes. Never in our 9 yrs together has he ever laid a hand on me-that night he did. I told him to get his stuff and leave or else I was calling the police. The man standing before me wasn't my husband.
He started to cry. Said that he hadn't ever done that to a woman and kept apologizing over and over again. Since he wouldn't leave I told him that I was leaving. I was heading to a friend's home who is in the Program to cool down and try to think straight. He became panicky. Wanted to know where I was going, who I was seeing, when I was coming home. I told him I just needed to take a drive and wasn't sure when I would be back home.
The last thing I told him was that I had lost all respect for him for doing what he did to me that evening.
I was 10 minutes down the road when our 15 yr old daughter called my cell hysterical. "Something is wrong w/dad..there's blood all over".
Jim took our 9mm pistol, laid himself on the grass right along side of the driveway and shot himself in the mouth. Our 6 yr old son was the one that found him.
I don't get it..I don't understand. I know that I didn't pull that trigger, but damn...I hope that he had finally found the peace that he was looking for.
With deepest sympathy to you and your family. There are no words of comfort that I can offer to ease your pain. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. May you find peace and comfort.
Love and blessings to you and your family.
Live strong,
Karilynn
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I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Please do not blame yourself. Your husband made this decision. I personally believe that nothing you could have said or done would have stopped him. Take care of yourself and I will remember you and your children in my prayers.
Oh how sad. I'm not sure what to say but I honestly believe that but for the grace of God this could easily have happened to me and countless others I suspect.
Of course you KNOW it wasn't your fault. It's one of the many different, sad and devastating consequence of the disease your AH was gripped by.
I will hold you and your precious son and daughter in my prayers.
I pray your A is at peace and that you and your family can find comfort in eachother. I recall your post of him saying that it would take something catastrophic for him to quit drinking. He did quit drinking but the disease didn't quit him. I'm so sorry.
Take good care Christy
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My prayers are with you today. I am so sorry for your loss, it is heartbreaking. It was not your fault, it was this horrible devastating disease. May God watch over you and your kids....
I am truly, truly sorry. You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers. This is a devastating result of a horrible disease. I'm hoping that you have enough knowledge about this disease to know, understand, and accept...deep inside...that the decision he made to end his struggle... was not your fault.
My alcoholic marriage situation was extremely similar to yours, and I spent many hours fearing that my AH would commit suicide. He threatened it endlessly, and I wouldn't have been shocked had he followed through. I can't imagine the pain you must be feeling...
Keep breathing, and just try to embrace the thought that he may finally be at peace.
I am so so sorry to hear of this. I hope you will access all the help you can get with regards to this. I have seen and heard survivors of other's suicides. I can imagine there is a lot. I had a friend who did that years ago. I was one of the last to speak to her. She had reached the end of her rope. I know I did all I could. I also know you did everything you could, you held on, you went to a program, you encouraged, you were compassionate.
I am glad that you took care of you. I am also aware that your words did not kill hm. He killed himself. He did not have it to go on. It had nothing to do with your argument. I think really in my heart of hearts, alcoholism is a way to commit suicide slowly. It is a way to say I don't care and I just want to die anyways. There are many passive ways of commiting suicide.
I know recovery takes monumental effort and you are making that. You deserve a life of your own. I know I do. I work every day so hard on that. My life is separate from the A's not all of it. If he doesn't make it it is not my fault.
How awful for you and your children.This disease is just horrendous.
I found my oldest sister ( she was an alcoholic) dead,not suicide,she died in her sleep after drinking.It is a difficult thing to deal with,finding someone you love like that.At 6 years old, that is alot to comprehend.
I am adding my prayers to the others above for you and your children.
This dreadful diseae has taken many lives.And ruined many others.It's such a shame.Take good care of you and your little ones.You need eachother now.God be with you.
My most heartfelt condolences and sympathies to you, your children and to everyone else affected.
My A has tried numerous times but was never sucessful. My 13 yo daughter was the one who found her the most recent time. The effects of that were big, I can't imaging had she succeeded.
Please keep coming back for love and support in the program.
Bob
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Welcome Back. We are here for you. I am SO glad you were able to put into words what happened. You are already on the road to recovery. Your kids really need you right now, but you already knew that. We are here for you any time you want/need to share.
I am sorry for your loss and your children's loss. I pray that you all can find peace and pray that your little boy that found him, that he finds a way to understand and know that it wasn't his fault. It can be so devestating for children to see, and I am sure you will know what needs to be done for his sake as well as your daughters.
So sorry for this tragedy Christy.... I have no idea if he has found the peace that he was looking for, but I do hope and pray that you and your kids can finally found that peace and serenity that you all deserve. I'm also hopeful that you will see, over time, that suicide is a direct result of alcoholism struggles within him, and the Three C's definitely apply to it as well. He would have done what he did, with or without the argument that you guys had that night..... I truly believe that.
Stick with your recovery - you and your children are most definitely worth it...
Love in Al-Anon,
Tom
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"He is either gonna drink, or he won't.... what are YOU gonna do?"
"What you think of me is none of my business"
"If you knew the answer to what you are worrying about, would it REALLY change anything?"
Thank you, each and everyone of you, for your kind words and prayers for me and the kids. I joined a suicide support db, but it doesn't quite seem like "home" like it does here.
I wish I had the answers. I've always been one to analyze and figure (try to,anyway) things out. I honestly do not understand this disease of alcholism and that is frustrating for me at times-especially now.
My friend and I were cleaning out the kitchen the other day and found two bottles that were almost empty. They were put up in the cupboard in February. I realize that relapse is all part of recovery-but honestly must be too and I had no idea that he had been drinking.
Another thing that is VERY disturbing to me is that I found a loaded shotgun in the basement in his work room. sigh...
So many what ifs and whys..so many questions that won't ever be answered on this plane of life. I remember the saying "somethings are not meant to be understood just accepted".
We are going thru what the therapist calls "complicated grief". In one sense we are sad that he is gone, but in another sense relieved. Then comes in the guilt for being relieved like a big wave sometimes.
I've been making sure to get out f2f w/Program people. I have a core group of those that have been in some sort of recovery for 20+ yrs and they are my godsend right now.
Ups and downs..that's how my day goes. Up and down. I know that my HP is here for me and the kids, and I do believe that Jim is now in the hands of his HP.
(((()))Christy try and cherish the good memories before alcohol. He is at peace now. Keep posting to us so we know you and the kids are okay. Love across the miles. Leo xxx
You and your family are in my prayers. I hope from the amount of responses that have been made to your post that you can feel the love of this program coming to help support you.
Yours in recovery,
Dolphin123
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I`m so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.I`m glad you are safe and so are your children.It could have been much worse..last October my sisters alcoholic husband shot and killed her and then himself.Again..I am sorry and will keep you in my prayers.