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bud


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FOO pulled a trigger


I am so thankful that I get to choose my friends!  During the 48 hour period between my Mom's passing and her funeral, my Aunt was extremely warm to me.  I was vulnerable and it slipped out where I asked if I could meet her later in the week to visit my Dad together- that I was uncomfortable visiting the nursing home for the first time after Mom's death.  She had my Uncle call me for the arrangements, which he said needed to include my crazy sister- and the soonest was 2 weeks away.  We set the date, but I wasn't going to wait 2 full weeks before seeing my Dad! So, I mustered the courage and went a few days later, this past Wednesday, and it was a lovely visit. I convinced myself that keeping the scheduled time with my Uncle, Aunt, and sister might be nice for my Dad and planned to keep the meeting- on which my Uncle placed so many restrictions that it no longer addressed any of my needs.  Today, my Uncle called me canceling the meeting, saying that it isn't necessary because he visited my Dad today he's doing ok.  I thanked him for calling, for the information, and said good bye.

My first feeling was one of relief.  My second feeling of anger rushed in.  After all, the entire interaction with my Uncle has been a huge trigger. He ignored the reason for my request, needed to control the situation into what he wanted it to be, may have found out that I was already at the nursing home, couldn't have what he wanted the way he wanted it so he cancelled saying that my request for a family meeting isn't necessary.  I never requested a family meeting.  He did. And he is right - it isn't necessary.  But that's not the point- the point was that I felt uncomfortable being in the building after my Mom passed and I also wasn't sure what to expect regarding hard questions from my Dad.  I guess the anger extends beyond this incident into other incidences from the past- my Aunt and Uncle accused me of falling off the face of the earth for 16 years- and they are right. It was not safe for me to be in contact with them because of my sister's relationship with my exAH.   They did not accept my apology and were not interested what happened to me and my daughter. I know being nice isn't a requirement.   I thought the funeral may have changed this- an expectation because of a few moments of my Aunt's warmth.  Though, I hate being blamed for things that I didn't do or don't deserve.  It does seem clear to me that my Uncle does not wish to have any unnecessary contact with me - for whatever reason... or maybe he just wants me around for an extra thing to control.... not really sure about anything here... just rambling on.

Looking for some support to let go of my anger and move on. I'm not approval seeking and would like to place a boundary to protect myself.   It seemed that my Aunt wanted to renew our relationship.  I don't know if she did or didn't change her mind and it seems that I did create an expectation around this potential. The thing is that I feel I'm darned if I do and darned if I don't, but am not sure if this is feeling or fact.  I'd like a plan that works for me but currently am not sure what that would look like.

Many thanks!



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Dear Laurel, I'm so sorry that your F00*have disappointed you once again. This is a extremely difficult, vulnerable time for you and reaching out for support from someone that appeared to be genuinely supportive understandable. I am so glad that you went to visit your father on your own and did not wait forthe two weeks that was established by your uncle. You listened to your inner voice, HP gave you the courage, wisdom and serenity to go on your own and have a successful visit with dad. That was the most important action you could've taken.

My F00 have responded in a very similar fashion to many of my requests in the past. I made the decision several years ago that I would depend on them for nothing but still treat them with courtesy and respect and have love, compassion and empathy for them. This has worked perfectly for me. I obtain my support for my friends and that is what I need.

I'm glad that you shared here and will hold you in my thoughts and prayers

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Hey Laurel, Betty said what I was thinking to say to you....you went on your own, prompted by your HP...good on you!!! Glad you did

as to FOO??  well, like Betty, I show them courtesy, but I get my love and support from my REAL loved ones.....the family of my heart....and I come here and get bathed in support/love, too.......there is something i tell my sponsees and anyone close to me i even posted it on facebook

some folks will love me no matter what i do

some folks will never love me no matter what i do

I went where the love is......



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Thanks so much Betty! It helps to know that I'm not alone and that my surprise and disappointment is a normal response under the circumstances.

If my Uncle knew about my visit, he must have felt lacking on many levels and could only pretend to "save face." I also know that he feels that if he cares less, he wins. He's all about being right and winning... something. But, thank heavens, this is none of my business.

Now, that I know what I know, I agree that being kind, courteous, respectful, and acting from a loving place of compassion and empathy - without expectations- will work well for me. I am blessed with my MIP family, good friends, and have a whole life ahead to enjoy, regardless of what my FOO does or doesn't do. After reading your response, in hindsight, this could have also been my HP moving me out of my own way or harm's way! I am grateful.

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Thank you Rose- I appreciate and think you and Betty have it right! Good support for what and who truly matter. The transient moments had inserted an expectation that did what expectations do... run amuck. I'm feeling better now that I know that this all happened for good reasons- so I could take responsibility for my own actions and feel the fear and do it anyway. I learned and I am in the process of becoming closer to who I want to be, regardless of what others do or don't do.

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bud: I hope you can extend compassion and empathy towards yourself, too. Your Mom just died. Your dad has just gone through multiple major losses. You have gone through some pretty tough stuff yourself, too. When a parent dies, in my experience, all sorts of things surface in us and everyone involved with the changes. We all experience grief at different times and in different ways. When my Mom died, I went back to work thinking I was doing okay although everything in me hurt - not just for me but for my Dad and my sibs and my Mom whose death was horrid. I was there a few days and a man came in off the street who was just being his sick self but he was just too much for me and I can remember saying what I wouldn't say to a complete stranger. I wasn't terrible to him, but I wasn't pleasant either. My secretary turned to me after he left and said: "You're hurting." She was right. I called Hospice and got into Hospice Care and Counseling which was a great help. I really couldn't handle it all on my own then. And Al-Anon really wasn't that big a help to me on that either in large part because my parents weren't As and the disease hadn't yet progressed in my sibs to the point it had by the time Dad died. My counselor was such a help. They are specifically trained for help with death and dying and a good one is a real gift. When my Dad died, I didn't need Hospice help because I'd learned some tools from Hospice and had the help of my sponsor daily and some good fellowship friends. I'd also had about six years to prepare myself for his death following his stroke. Your Mom hasn't been in the ALF for all that long, so maybe my suggestion would be helpful for you?

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Bud, you are so tender, now, and may be for quite some time.  Keep your loved ones close and let the others stay in the periphery.  You need not do anything or talk to anybody; they don't get to be blessed by your presence, period.



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Thanks Grateful- this is a very good suggestion. Hospice did let me know that they would be available to speak with after Mom's death. Silly me- what is ALF, please?

Thanks Paula, your words impart a wonderful strength and balance and I'll keep them close for easy reference.

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bud


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thank you Betty

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Hi Bud,

It seems you were at a vulnerable moment, and your Aunt seemed to be ready to give you something you have been hoping for for a long time. It sounds like you listened well to y our inner voice and went out to see your Dad anyway without the rest of the family. That was probably the best anyway, to conquer your apprehension at visiting without Mom and not having to deal with the rest of the family. Then you uncle cancelled the meeting the next week.

It sounds like you are taking care of yourself and reasoning through things quite well. Anger from past events is understandable, and I am sure you will work through it with the same aplomb.

I think you are doing great for the circumstances. I love Grateful's suggestion of a hospice counselor.

Kenny

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Rejection is God's protection.  "FOO pulled a trigger?"  Maybe hp helped you dodge big bullet.  Remember when we lived with active alcoholics... there are those moments of emotional availability. There seemed to be a light suddenly lit in them and just for a moment we believed, we hoped, we decided just maybe we can depend on them after all to help us meet our needs. We learned it was just a game of smoke and mirrors. It was painful to accept, lonely and abandoned yet again.  Then came Alanon and those who could actually show up for us and teach us through their es&h how we could show up for ourselves.  You know how, Bud.  You went to the nursing home and it went well.  Keep trusting yourself and your hp to keep walking next to you. I had to separate myself from my sibling despite my mom's wish that we'd be close after she died. I haven't severed ties but I have to put my well-being above my mother's wish.  My brother's self loathing comes out sideways in derrogatory remarks about our mother whom he blames for his own life choices.  When she first died, I believed he would feel as I did, that there's just us and we should become closer and be there for one another. I accept that that did not happen.  He sent me a "sister" card for my birthday last week.  I didn't sit in the "if onlies."  His kind gestures are random and who knows what motivates him... alcohol is his best friend. I take things at face value. I no longer project about possibilities. I pray his well-being and let go. 

I found that I needed to protect my grief time and deserved to honor that process as unique and as individualized.  I've realized that's true of my brother as well - whatever grieving my mother may look like for him. I do love my brother but I honestly could not bear up to remarks, the yelling at me and the random kindness then drop kicking me to the curb that's been the pattern for many years due to his disease. My mother's death was devastating to me and I wanted to draw closer to him not further away. However, he can't deal with feelings in general so a crisis only worsens things for him and those in his path. 

Our family of choice in Alanon is here for us and the god of our understanding and we've acquired courage by coming here and sharing and inner power and strength from gathering with others in the rooms to heal and grow.  So we trot off to the hardware store once in awhile by mistake. It happens less often now.  You and your dad are lucky to have one another. Maybe your private visit with him was much more genuine and focused than it ever could have been with the rest of the family there.  I'm glad you didn't wait for your family of origin. I know you ache right now but you're finding the inner strength to keep growing. ((((hugs)))   TT  



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Maybe a plan could be just to be gentle with yourself for a while bud, that might mean keeping these jaggy folk at a distance. Your grieving and anger could be part of that grief. maybe just passing through this time in your life with minimum drama or keeping contact to a minimum. Surround yourself with the good folk in your life, like us,lol.x



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You will know when you do!

I thought it hurtful that if it was a family thing, even if it was not about dad, you guys could have seen each other.

their actions show how they feel.

As far as the past, that is their problem. You had every right to protect you from poisonous situations!

I am so sad you lost your mom. Its one of our greatest losses even if we did not have a good relationship, we now cannot even have hope to!

Sending you lots of love!

 



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Thank you KFJ! At least, I can take solace in knowing that my response was normal and validation that I'm doing ok considering. I agree with you and Grateful and will be in touch with Hospice care for additional tools. I'll need them as the last few of the tiny FOO that I grew up with reaches out... today, I receive so sorry for your loss take care. Emmm okay!

Thanks TT. You're right that my HP moved me to safety. Good Lord, what was I thinking! Yes, it was that tiny bit of hope that seemed bright enough a spark to ignite this time... but I'm realizing that this probably has nothing to do with me at all. It's just who they are.

Thank you el-cee- I like that- "jaggy folk"- so much easier to keep a safe distance. I can't make sense of their ways and it seems that they just don't want to be bothered... and, everything bothers them. And it doesn't matter if this is true or not true, as it isn't my problem. I know my fuse is short and I will need to step up my self-care.

Thanks Debilyn! Yes, I guess that would have been the normal thing to expect... but, this is insanity and all normal bets are off. They have a right to grieve how it's best for them and I clearly didn't mean to disturb their process. I agree that the past remains in their ball field as they could have called at any point during those many years and asked if I was ok; or, they could have chosen to accept my apology for having hurt them by my disappearing. It's ok, though, I know that my HP has this and is urging me to move on.  Thank you- it's a tremendous loss and a tremendous loss of opportunity, but I did the best I could with what I had and, for that, I am truly grateful.



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