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information, ideas, feelings, problems and solutions on a personal
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One of the great miracles of this program for me has been uncovering or should I say discovering and Recovering parts of myself that got buried along with the resentment, anger, hurt, bitterness etc that came with living in an alcoholic marriage. They say in the meetings that living with an alcoholic is too much for us to bear without help (sorry paraphrasing...something along those lines??) and so it's great that you are here with us sharing your journey and hopefully we all help each other as we are helping ourselves.
Ive thought of this too. Why did i live with this guy for years and years? Put up with so much dysfunction. I think the answer lies in my childhood. I saught out the relationship with an alcoholic due to the childhood i had and to fill the gaps from the parenting i got. I got what i needed in my alcoholic. I played out the roles i needed at the time.
I have found with alanon people and tools, that I can have a better, happier life. I no longer have to live in misery. I have regained a self I love and respect. And I still live with my dry A, for now anyway. You can do it! Lyne
I still live with my AH who binge drinks and can go months where I think he's dry. We stay for various reasons. Mine may be different than yours but we still have to learn to live within the confines of the relationship, whatever that may look like at the time.
You will be OK. You are in the middle of a long healing journey but that's part of life and each step along this journey is a stepping stone to something better and to a greater healing of emotions, spirituality, and mental health. HUGS to you!
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Never grow a wishbone where your backbone ought to be!
I was not criticizing anyone for staying my marriage became very
toxic because of his bad behavior and not dealing with his own
problems. I could not seem to help him, ah and his mother seemed
to blame me for all his unhappiness. I don't know what they discussed
because I was out of the loop in my own marriage.
Mirandac, I'm not sure why you thought anyone felt you were criticizing anyone who stayed? For me, I was just sharing my own ESH and the fact that we all have reasons for staying for however long that may be. We all have our own paths and only our HP knows what the future has in store for us and only HP can help us unlock the doors that lead us through our recoveries. HUGS!
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Never grow a wishbone where your backbone ought to be!
We're all a mixed bag, Mirandac, made of shadow and light. Fortunately, our HP and working the Al-Anon program can help us live freely and serenely one day at a time. I can remember going through my own divorce and how painful it was once upon a time. In some ways, I can liken it to labor pain without anesthesia. It felt bad and yet, it was a very good thing and helped release me from slavery to something over which I was powerless and delivered me into the hands of a HP who showed me things about myself I didn't know and led me to doing things I'd never expected in my wildest dreams. If I gained anything of value in that process it was the knowledge that although my life was my own, there was a power more loving and wise than I who could guide me through the desert of longing and fear into a lush garden of service and joy. I still have my desert times and my lush garden times and now I know that my HP is with me through it all to deliver me from things that still get in the way of my being the best woman I can be - with or without a partner.
Thank you grateful i feel my hp but i guess i just need to
Keep working thru this pain to get to the other end of the
Tunnel. It will be so sweet when it doesnt hurt anymore
And Gods love fills me up inside instead.
Prayers Miranda...it was a very long marriage. I can see you meant "til death do us part" and were trying so hard. I respect the work you are doing to heal. I hope you are having some good moments, laughter, and happiness creeping back in more and more also. You deserve to be happy.
Thank you pink! I am doing fairly well functioning. I am generally a happy
And easy going person so all this badness and feelings of evil are so against
Everything i believe in and want in my life. Coming from my own husband
Is something i have a very hard time accepting is even possible. This disease
Is truly baffling and frightening.
One of the things I had to learn to let go of was trying to decide who was at fault for the demise of our marriage. We both contributed to the relationship - in good ways and in not so good ways. It truly didn't matter to me after awhile who was most "at fault" for the end of it as much as it mattered to me that it was over and it was important for me to see that we both did the best we could and our best just wasn't enough to continue until our literal deaths. I don't know if that is something you struggle with now? It was something I had a very hard time with until I stopped judging and feeling judged. That came directly as a result of a spiritual awakening that truly wasn't due to me. It was due to my HP. (((M))) There will come a time when you will feel no pain anymore, Mirandac. It will take some time and I see you working on getting there.
Thank you grateful. I am struggling so much i dont know if
I am up or down anymore. I am definetely not centered, i feel
Almost out of my own body and mind.
I felt that way, too. And lo and behold - some acquaintance showed up one day on a downtown sidewalk - looked at me and said: "You look awful. Here, take this. It changed my life." She handed me a brochure and then nagged me into going - buying no excuses - on a weekend with other grieving people where what happened for her - happened for me. It was an experience that showed up for me when I was at the bottom of my resources and my coping skills. I've noticed that my own HP loves to show up at about the exact same time I have no idea if I'm coming or going. I don't recommend that state and yet the few times I've reached that state - something I know I didn't orchestrate happens. We're here with you, Mirandac. Just keep doing the next right thing - even if it appears that right thing is to take a nap or wash some dishes or take a walk.
I think if I was betrayed the way you were and after that long...it would take a lot of time to heal and get my life back. I am aware that you knew the marriage was bad for quite some time and I'm thinking your values and ideas regarding marriage and commitment kept you in it. Hence, to be rejected and betrayed after years of sacrificing already....A HUGE whammy. I get it and I feel for you. Time will heal this though. The pain will drive you closer to your HP and then you will wind up even stronger in the long run.
Thank you both for the understanding. I know its grieving and rejection
It has thrown me for a massive loop. I keep swimming to help,love and my HP.
One day i will find my serenity and be centered and feeling normal again.
That will feel so good!
And you will know how to support folks who are just starting the process or going through it with authority and integrity. I have all the respect in the world for people in the professional world and yet it has been the love of peers and people who have "been there" who have helped change my mourning into dancing and my sorrow into joy. Once we feel all there is to feel when a marriage ends, we are much more empathetic - not just from our heads but from our hearts, too. You may not return to the old normal but I guarantee you that with continued work you are going to love the "new normal."
Miranda,
I went through the same thing. I meditate and pray to my HP. I literally spend hours on some days on youtube listening to the guided meditations there. Deepak Chopra is one of my favorites. Helps me stay centered and it distracts me. Someday I pray I will wake up and realize I am not sad.
Thank you both. I do find i hug people much more and
Allow them closer To me. I also reach out to the newcomers
At our alanon group the ones like i was, that come in very
Sad and dejected looking.