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Oh no Ilikemyheart, I heard myself in that post, I would totally be the friend telling you how to build your bloods clotting factor while you bled all over the floor, I laughed so hard at myself when I read that. Its true, oh no, I am just like that! But we are off topic here; you know an unhealthy gut can cause confusion and foggy thinking, time for my daily probiotic...
Thought I should put this separately instead of on Gaby's thread as i'm just being silly really but, it's an interesting topic. Why DO I do that? Because I feel excited when i learn things that improve my health and I just want to share it with everyone so they can feel good too..I guess that's probably why other people try to force stuff down my throat too sometimes like religious family members etc and I always see it as arrogance and an insult but it is more likely just exactly the same thing...wanting to share something that works for them...
Food for thought.
Note to self- shush with the unsolicited nutritional advice lol.
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If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see? (Lewis Caroll)
I often wonder how many times people were thinking to themselves, "I wish she would just shut up". I am finally to a place where I will ask people if they are open to hearing other options or I can sense if the time is right to share. Al anon has contributed so much to my growth in this area.
Why DO I do that? Because I feel excited when i learn things that improve my health and I just want to share it with everyone so they can feel good too..I guess that's probably why other people try to force stuff down my throat too sometimes like religious family members etc and I always see it as arrogance and an insult but it is more likely just exactly the same thing...wanting to share something that works for them...
Food for thought.
Note to self- shush with the unsolicited nutritional advice lol.
hey Mel, i think u hit it on the head here....I find a good "gem" that i think is gonna help the world and i want to get up like king kong on the new york tower and shout it to the world....well?? maybe they (the recipient) of my "gem" may not want it...or need it...... but oh yea, i can relate..i think i just gotta share something really cool that worked for me, not considering the other.......oh well, that is why i am here..........you and i are on the same page here...... LOL.....so how goes it my friend????? hope the sun is shining on you this day
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Live and let live and do it with peace and goodwill to all!!!!
I'll be a little worried if i look outside and the sun is shining,'cause it's after 1:00am lol
Love the image of you clinging to the side of a skyscraper shouting wisdom to the world.
Glad we can laugh at ourselves
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If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see? (Lewis Caroll)
I'll be a little worried if i look outside and the sun is shining,'cause it's after 1:00am lol Love the image of you clinging to the side of a skyscraper shouting wisdom to the world. Glad we can laugh at ourselves
LOLOLOL....oh yea, a HUGE lunar eclipse??? OMG.......laughing my ass off.......really...4got its NIGHT for you, hahahahaha.....well king kong really stepped in her own mess kit that time, LOLOLOL.......
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Live and let live and do it with peace and goodwill to all!!!!
I think that is the difference between MIP Board and in-person meetings.
Meetings feel to me like what I've read of Quaker meetings - sitting in silence. Someone speaks. Then silence. Then someone else speaks about something unrelated - their own issue.
I sometimes think what's this? when I see responses on the board, but then I realize that's how this works.
I need to learn that frequently!
Melly: I've always appreciated your sharing your knowledge in this area. I have not been able to use some of it and some of it, I have. That's not my area of expertise, so I appreciate someone sharing theirs. I've never experienced you as anything but a teacher on this topic and I have enjoyed listening about it. You've also taught me how to use emoticons and inspired me to buy a camera and learn how to put pictures on computer and upload an avatar (granted that's not probiotics or anything). In tuning you out, I would have missed the knowledge you had that I did not have. That's how I see it anyway.
Thanks Catherine, you know I've learnt a thing or 2 from you too
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If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see? (Lewis Caroll)
I can relate to it this way: When I first discovered Al-anon I wanted to share what I learned with the whole world! I started using some of the slogans without really thinking I was passing on Al-anon-speak, people would tell me their problems and I would talk al-anon at them to which they would give me that, yep, she's crazy again and sigh exasperatedly because I wasn't helping them. Only those who are walking a similar path are receptive so I don't offer it anymore to just anyone - I let their words lead the way.
Once upon a time my sister was lamenting that she couldn't get a smell out of a rug she had - when I started to offer my thoughts she cut me off harshly - angry that "why do people just assume you want them to solve your problem for you, I'm not telling you to get a solution, I'm just telling you". (ok so who never again passes on tidbits of a helpful nature to their sister?)
I think its human nature to want to help each other, share discoveries that helped us and might help someone else. but I have to remember that MY solution, though it works for me, might not work for everyone!
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I am strong in the broken places. ~ Unknown
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another! ~ Anatole France
lol, I talk al-anon at people now too, especially when my mum wants to complain about my sister, my sister wants to complain about my mum, they both want to complain about my brothers...they think I am nuts and I think they get frustrated when I don't join in and get upset with them. I was told just recently "well, everything is crap but I suppose you are too zen for my problems now" lol. Ooops. But, once you start to realise that you don't have to get worked up over everything, it's difficult to respond the way people have come to expect.
Many years ago I had a gigantic fight with my mum and went to stay with my aunt and her then-husband. I was maybe 15? I was SO ANGRY and he sat down with me and listened to every angry, whinging thing I had to say but he kept telling me "OK that's true, but don't worry about it right now! Come outside, look at the stars. Aren't they beautiful? Here, sit by the fire. Isn't it warm? Your mum isn't here now, why be angry right now?" I thought he was nuts and completely clueless. Lol, wish I could go back in time and have that conversation again! He was smart.
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If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see? (Lewis Caroll)
ha, my daughter asked me how I could be so ZEN when her alternator threw a bolt into her radiator last summer - my view on life has SO changed thanks to Al-Anon! I didn't see it as a life stopping, horrid event; I was grateful that she hadn't been on the road at the time, perhaps in danger - it was just a mechanical hiccup in our life - nothing worth getting upset over, I could fix it and I did (I replaced her radiator all by my lonesome, go me!) . I remember RLC fondly - one of his favorite phrases was "how important is it" and the most important thing in the radiator event was my daughter's safety - everything else pales. Zen is NOT a bad place to operate from.
When it comes to offering Al-anon speak now-a-days, I wait for someone to show me they really want to know before I venture into that realm.
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I am strong in the broken places. ~ Unknown
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another! ~ Anatole France
". I am finally to a place where I will ask people if they are open to hearing other options or I can sense if the time is right to share. Al anon has contributed so much to my growth in this area.
