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Cathyinaz · ~*Service Worker*~

He's Homeless

ilovedogs · ~*Service Worker*~

Wow, Cathy! A .507??? People can survive that? I'm so sorry, sweetie. Praying with you that he and others are safe.

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Prayers Cathy

Melly1248 · ~*Service Worker*~

Hugs n prayers
(((Cathy)))

mm830 · Senior Member

(((Cathy))) Sending prayers for you and your son.

Jerry F · ~*Service Worker*~

Cath as a former therapist? a point .5 anything is moving toward toxic shock...he should be under professional watch or in a cell. Let us know. ((((hugs)))) smile

Debilyn · ~*Service Worker*~

Dear one that cannot be right, he would be in a coma or dead. Dad musta heard it wrong.Still does not matter. Have a lump in my heart for you. I am sure this has not sunk in and your mind, heart are protecting you.

Am sad dad was not able to stop him, he must feel now you were right, he did his best as you do and did.

Doubt the hospital would have allowed him to go anywhere if it was that high, it would be criminal.

He and all of you are in my prayers at this instant. We have to believe HP knows what is best and has him in his hands.

Oh Cathy....I know I can't do anything, but I so want to. sending you my love,debilyn

Newlife girl · ~*Service Worker*~

Sorry to hear that. Why wouldn't your ex take the keys even when your son refused? How can that happen? Especially with a blood alc level so high!! You would assume your ex could have easily taken them. His driving was so dangerous. I am surprised he could even walk. Sorry to be harsh...but that was not ok

Newlife girl · ~*Service Worker*~

I also think .5 was a mistake. Anything around .25 is deadly.

Cathyinaz · ~*Service Worker*~

He's been at a .5 before many times. I didn't ask but maybe he stayed at the hospital long enough to get BAC down some before he went home. I will ask Bill tomorrow. All I know now is my son is out there somewhere in God's hands. I just pray God will give him peace and if that means death so be it. I have lost all hope of my son getting better. I don't want him to suffer anymore.

Cathyinaz · ~*Service Worker*~

My X couldn't take the keys away from my son because he is in no shape to be able to. My son can easily overtake him. Oh even at a .5 my son is strong and able to get around if need be. Also if he was at .5 when he comes down he will have seizures...I'm sure of it. Not a pretty sight to watch either.

Toxic....yep very toxic. Been there many times. My son is not long for this world. I have excepted that now.

Prayers for him that God will do what is best.

el-cee · ~*Service Worker*~

Hi cathy, im so sorry, I know what your going through, this could be his bottom now, things may change if he has run out of enablers. Fits, a car crash and any other consequence belongs to him and him only, not his dad or you. Keep your chin up and stay close for the support and encouragement you need at this time.x

Jerry F · ~*Service Worker*~

Prayers from this end...(((hugs))) cry

Katy · ~*Service Worker*~

Oh Cathy, what a terrible situation, my heart goes out to you and your son, just know you are in my thought's.

love

Katy

x

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Dear Cathy

My son was a 5.5 many, many times and the Drs all thought he should be in a coma but he was walking, talking and aggressive.

I understand

Continued prayers.

-- Edited by hotrod on Friday 21st of March 2014 06:45:48 AM

bud · ~*Service Worker*~

Sending continued prayers for you and your son.

PP · ~*Service Worker*~

Prayers Cathy, you are a strong woman.

John · ~*Service Worker*~

As an experienced alcoholic.. my normal operating temperature (BAC) was a 2. - 2.5... that is what I had to drink to just stop the shaking, sweating and sh*ts (alcoholics 3 S's) be able to work and function in any capacity. Non alcoholics stagger, slur, stumble, are pretty wasted at a 1. - 1.5, and passed out after that. The alcoholic blacks out.. but maintains the ability to function to a much greater degree when they are hitting the two's and three on a BAC than a non alcoholic. 4's.. coma material, absolutely seizure material, and depending on other health conditions is likely to result in death. 5. is death... whether the alcoholic is still standing or not, no one is alive inside that body... they just haven't laid down yet. I am surprised that a hospital would release someone (anyone) with a BAC of 3. or above, for any reason. By their own ethical code, they are committing malpractice because they are suppose to do all within their ability to preserve life. Even if it means a involuntary commitment. However, after the age of 48, a true alcoholic has a better chance of dying from not getting a drink they need, than drinking themselves to death. Their health, predominately their heart and nervous system, is not able to endure the withdrawals that not getting a drink can bring about, and most in the medical community know this, so they tend to let alcoholics continue to treat themselves... to more alcohol. (Send them out the door) Unfortunately science and medical establishment still consider late stage alcoholism the worse disease to treat. The prognosis of success is so low. A majority of insurance company's won't cover the expense of treating alcoholism in and of itself, they require there be a "dual diagnosis"... (alcoholism coupled with something else such as a mental health disorder) before they will provide coverage. Why? they tend to hold that alcoholism is not treatable in and of itself. If there is a secondary ailment that has a better prognosis of treatment, it may be the "causal" factor that increases the success of alcoholism treatment. In short, they hold out hope that the secondary ailment is causing the first (alcoholism) and if it can be treated, then the potential for successfully treating the alcoholism is increased. Alcoholism is not causal, it doesn't depend on the existence of any other ailment to exist, but the medical and insurance industry are not willing to put their money behind just treating it alone. To me, this would be the same as denying a cancer sufferer treatment without their first being diagnosed with anxiety and bipolar disorder. If they had done this to cancer sufferers, there would not be so many cancer survivors today. Their prognosis is better than the alcoholics because the medical and science community put their money into treating it with or without a requirement of secondary diagnosis.

Okay, I rambled enough... Cathy, trust that your Higher Power, is going to take care of You... and it will do what needs to be done for your son as well. Let Go and Let God.

John

Cathyinaz · ~*Service Worker*~

Good Morning Everyone

I know God will protect me and I also will help myself. I'm not going to go down that path of despair anymore. My prayers are long and strong to keep me sane. I am powerless to help and who in their right mind would start this journey all over again.

I have text my X about the hospital and if they just let him go so I should know something today I hope. I know my son and if he doesn't have supervised detox he might not make it. I have seen him close to death before. But now that I'm not there or his father he won't realize how sick he is until maybe it's too late.

I will be doing meetings a lot this weekend. I don't want to be alone because it doesn't help me.

Thank you all for all your support....I know I'm not alone

(((( MIP FAMILY ))))

ClearTheFog · Senior Member

Hugs, prayers and well wishes to you, Cathy.

Sweet Stanley · ~*Service Worker*~

I am so sorry Cathy. I am praying for you and for your son.

sad_dog_mommy · Veteran Member

((( e hug )))

Kerrymom · Senior Member

Hugs and prayers for your family!

AngelicH57 · Senior Member

{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}

el-cee · ~*Service Worker*~

'My prayers are long and strong to keep me sane. I am powerless to help and who in their right mind would start this journey all over again'.

Is that a spiritual awakening right there? You sound good, so good. What a long way we have came, keep going through it with that faith. Proud of you!!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-- Edited by el-cee on Friday 21st of March 2014 01:08:28 PM

Cathyinaz · ~*Service Worker*~

el-cee

Once I was able to let go of the continued "what if's" I was able to relax and let go more and more. I'm not thinking about what might happen anymore. It's beyond my power and I have excepted that completely with HP's help. My faith in myself will get me though.

We have come a long way and a long way to go

((( hugs )))

slogan_jim · Senior Member

I had the same reaction as most. 0.5! Woah! I would most certainly die. No question. My body has a hard time recovering from 3-4 shots of any hard liquor let alone anything 0.5 related. I guess you have to question how much the human body will be able to withstand this kind of abuse.

I think of this a lot with my dad. He's smoked his whole life, drank to excess for most of it, dealt with prostate cancer....his organs must be absolute garbage and barely holding on yet, he's still trekking. Continuing this excessive disgusting behaviour.

Let go and let god is really the only thing we can do.

SerenityRUS · ~*Service Worker*~

Hugs .. Cathy sending a ton of love and support. Praying for your family. Hugs s

Jen61 · ~*Service Worker*~

Prayers and thoughts for you and your family.

Rose50 · Senior Member

Just logged on and read this latest news. ((((((Cathy)))) Prayers to you and your son.

Breakingfree · ~*Service Worker*~

Prayers to you and your son! Sending you love and support!

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