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My experience. WAIT and see what mood he is in.  PLUS, if you are that tired and drained, it isnt the best time to engage in such a touchy and important conversation.  Kind of like writing that nasty email at work cause someone peeved you off big time, and not sending it right way, and THEN after re reading it glad you didnt!!!

 

 



-- Edited by Iwantthingsback on Friday 25th of October 2013 10:12:57 AM

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ABF went on a bender last night. Getting home from work, I could smell the beer and cigarette dive smell before I even opened the door. I went into the bedroom and shut the door, trying to get away from the bar scene stench and his slurred speech. I'd just changed into my fuzzy pajamas and was just about to open my newly arrived Getting Them Sober when he flings the door open and tries to grope me while he's bragging about something awesome he'd done or was about to do. I didn't react the way I should have and after I was told that I was a pain in the a**, it rapidly got worse. He finally went out and closed the door, and I could hear him banging around the house all night until about 6:30. When I ventured out (just now) I'm sure you all can imagine what I found, beer cans and bottles everywhere, food in the sink, on the counter, food or vomit on the towels in the bathroom, just the usual weekend bonus, courtesy of ABF, who loves an early start to the weekend, yay! 

I'm sorry to ramble on, but I would greatly appreciate ESH here. I had recently gone back to Step 1 (or Square 1), and realilze that I've never really progressed beyond there, because I feel so overwhelmed and shaken to the core, that I have no real concept of a higher power. Sometimes I feel like I'm in the beginning stages of dementia or that something is horribly wrong with me. I'm hoping that it's only anxiety or stress causing all of the symptoms that stress me out even further.

Getting to the point (sorry guys), I admit here that my life has become totally unmanageable. I don't feel that I can work the steps or progress any further unless ABF either goes home (to another state), goes into rehab, or goes somewhere else, but he's gotta go.

Can any of you please offer me ESH in how to go about this as non-confrontationally as possible? I don't have a sponsor to ask. I will try to read up on GTS, but I'd really appreciate Real-time advice. Thank you :))



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I wouldnt dare give advice in this area (me personally) BUT if you truly mean it and want this. Wait until he is sober and tell him. I would dig deep and make sure you really want this to end then go from there. NO decisions have to be made right this sec unless you are in real danger. But let yourself breathe, relax, let some of the anxiety go (I deal with HORRIBLE panic attacks) I know I cant think or do anything while one is upon me. And give yourself time to think clearly!

I wish you the best.

And never be sorry for how you feel............ EVER!

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P.S. I was wondering if it is good to bring this up to him when he's hung over and sick. Should I wake him or wait for him to wake himself? I'm taking a mental health day from work since I haven't slept yet and am upset/loopy.

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For sure don't clean it up for him. That is his responsibility. You don't have to worry about his hangover. He worked hard for that and it is his to own. Don't wake him. That is like poking the bear....

I always say that if I leave/have him leave, it doesn't mean we can't get back together later. I have a friend in AlAnon that always made her hubby go to a motel when he came home drunk. She didn't want to see him that way (and didn't want her kids to see him either) so if he made that choice, it would trigger her choice. If he didn't want to she would call his friends to come and get him.

Take care of yourself. Do what you need/want to do.

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Take care of yourself while he is sleeping.......... get some rest!!

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Thanks, I will take that advice...and run with it...off to sleep a bit:)

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There ya go, get warm jammies on, comfy blanket and hunker down :) I sooo wish I was doing that right now LOL Lucky duck

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Hugs.
Oh that drunken groping and then the nasty comments when we don't throw off our clothes and get jiggy with their stinky foul-mouthed selves immediately...I shuddered just reading about it.
I find mine is worse to talk to when he is hung over because his brain is still mush from the alcohol but he is also full of shame and regret as well as the physical misery, so he's more defensive and intollerable than ever.
Hope you are getting a long and peaceful sleep now; you deserve it!!

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When my A has obviously gone on a bender my only job is to take care of me. Do not engage while they are drunk and not while hung over. If he wishes to communicate after the fact. (say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean)
This past weekend I found the moment where he was in between (very rare moments these days). I communicated a boundary. I told him that his drinking upsets me (as he already knows so I don't go into details) and that when he is drinking I understand he does not intend to be completely inebriated but that I would be distancing myself and the children and most likely find somewhere else to stay the night.
Your job right now is to take care of you. Do not clean up his side of the street. Do not cover up what was done, but don't state the obvious. He will see his mess when he wakes up and leave it at that.
If you are Hungry, eat nutritious. If you are angry, reach out to any of us on here and vent, or find a meeting if you can. If you are lonely, we are here.(I know I have been where you are and its not a very good place to stay) If you are tired, rest. H.A.L.T.
I will pray for you. Please take care of you.
One moment at a time
Keep coming back.
It works if you work it and you are absolutely worth it!
In love and support
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That sounds horrible to live with.  I remember what it was like to live with it.  I felt like I was going insane. 

It feels bad not to indicate that the behavior is awful -- as if you're giving them a free pass.  At the same time, your actions are saying the deeper truth.  If you say, "I can't stand this," but you stay with him, what your actions are saying is "I can stand this."  So it helps to be aware that they're actually looking at what we do, not what we say.

It's certainly fair to say, "I really hate this."  I'm afraid that probably wouldn't be much of a surprise to an A.  They see us as critical kill-joys who hate all their fun.  If they were capable of seeing how to behave so as to have harmony in the home, they wouldn't do this stuff in the first place.

So to me the biggest question would be: what is your bottom line?  At what point does it become intolerable?  Is there a point at which you'd need to stay in the relationship but live separately?  Or would the next step be not staying in the relationship?  Or can you go on like this for X amount of time, or maybe forever?  The chances are sadly excellent that he will not change, except that alcoholism is progressive and it will get worse.

What I didn't do that I wish I'd done is to think seriously about my bottom line.  The whole thing scared me so much that I lived in a fantasy where one day a light bulb would turn on and he'd realize what he'd done and change everything.  So I didn't plan ahead and think about what was good and bad for me.

Take good care of yourself.



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http://alanon.activeboard.com/t38730205/okay-so-what-can-we-do/

 

Detachment is a difficult thing, but so very powerful...  In many cases "speaking" with an active A about your concerns, their drinking & behaviors, etc., is an exercise in futility, and much of what you say may well be turned around against you - it's a big obstacle in the sordid world of living around addiction....  Just like with our A's, we get judged on our actions, much more than our words....  You choosing recovery - for YOU - is the best option for you to take...  Getting yourself healthy is the first step towards assertively standing up for ourselves in all of our dealings - with our A's or otherwise...


Take care
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I agree with Tom.  No need to say anything, just do what you need to do for you.  Are you ready?  If you are still hoping your actions will cause him to do something positive, you may be greatly disappointed.  He may or he may not and that is totally his business.  Your first choice is to decide to stay sick or reach for sanity/peace/health... then go on to the next step.  We are here to help, you are never alone.  (((hugs)))



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