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The 7 day stretch of good moods and normal ways didnt last  and I didnt think it would but I am happy I got that at least. Those little stretches allows us to stay connected and stay in love. If he was Mr. Dry butt head every single day I couldnt deal with that and or would fall out of love, as I have come close.  Like I told him one night when he asked if I liked him, I said I always love you but no, some days I do not like you!  He said, is it the days I am a jerk?  I said yes, I do not and never will like you when the addict is thriving and takes over (as I call it). He was shocked I said that but he took it well and understood at least. What scares me the most is he doesnt even know how he is acting the way he does some days and he convinces himself it was me. Do they really not know?  I think they (he) does know it is him but I also believe some days he talks himself into believing it was something I did or didn't do.

He went to a meeting last night first time in 4 months (and he always feels worse and acts worse after which I hate). Sometimes I think he just goes for me, no, I am pretty sure he did this time because he knows I am reaching a breaking point with this dry drunk crap! Last night wasnt bad or anything but he was his old edgy self and started in on all the things he didnt have in life because he failed and things he has done wrong to family and to me and so on.  The old me would have talked to him (because like I said before we are best friends too and everyone needs to talk and have someone to talk to) but I didnt. 

It was very hard by nature people always talk to me about their problems (it has always been that way for me for some reason) and I listen, never judge and help as much as I can.  My mom swears that is why I was "created" LOL. And it is especially hard to not engage with him because I love him and I know he gets sad, I know he hurts too and I know more than me, he doesnt want this illness!! Who in the heck would want this?  I bit my tongue and I went over, kissed him on forehead told him I loved him and went in my room to read.  He came in and said you dont care about me, I said yes I do Tom I just want to be alone and read right now. Then he started in on Al Anon and how it is "absorbing" me.... I just smiled and ignored him. He came in later on got his book, laid down next to me and read as well. We didnt talk the rest of the night but we didnt fight and I stuck to my guns.

I am not sure if I did the right thing but what I do know is if I did what I used to do, he would have gotten more "self pitty" acting and it would have spun off into something else or onto me (his famous card he plays, lets find something wrong with her now) and or we would have fought. I am sharing because it seemed to work even though I didnt feel real good about it and still dont but I cant keep feeding into his addiction. And I was able to control a situation that happens often as where in the past I would have contributed in making things worse, mainly for me and the night would have ended up in me crying, a sick tummy and him saying mean things.

XOXO all.  I find myself thinking about everyone on here and what people go through.  All of us, the Alcoholics and their loved ones. Such a sad -  sad illness.  I am enjoying the book courage to change, BUT it does make me feel bad, mainly because it is a cold hard reality that I live with a very sick person, a non curable illness and it will always live within him. and unless he has the power within to get and stay better  my choices are.. I accept it and live it or leave him both hard decisions that we all deal with daily. And that scares the pants off me J  Thinking of you all and your As

 



-- Edited by Iwantthingsback on Thursday 17th of October 2013 08:41:32 AM

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I am sorry you have to go through this but you are not alone (as you can see) and I completely understand. I know meetings are not enough for mine hence therapy and material. BUT, the only thing mine does is go to therapy (couples) and reads his anger management and other books and all material.. minus meetings (once in a while goes).. and funny, I never see AA material around? Hmmmmmmmmmmm. He hates that I printed my 12 step and traditions I told him too bad, if he doesnt like it, dont look at it!!

One thing I have learned they cant just go to a meeting and say hey look what I did, I went to a meeting. If they do not work the program too they will remain if you choose to stay, hang on to the good days (sounds like you have some) and shake your head at the other behavior and go on your merry way. For now I am fortunate enough when he sees me react (detach, ignore or whatever I choose to do) he snaps out of it FAST! This might get better or worse, I dont know but I am pretty strict with certain things and I believe he doesnt want to lose me so he at the very least, recognizes and trys. Do I want to slap him and say if you really want this to work, do your part and avoid all this crap in the first place.. yes but I never put him down for the effort he does and when he wants to talk about something he learned I make sure I listen and say hey, great even though I am mad he isnt addressing the addiction only the behavior.. Make sense when I say that? Our Therapist told me part of the dry drunk IS learning how to handle themselves, control moods etc, so, he is doing half of what he needs. But again, if he would only concentrate on his addiction and put effort into that the rest (dry drunk behavior) wouldnt be here and it would fall into place more with less effort. But right now he chooses the stressful hard road. So be it! I like to think HP is making him do it this way for reason he had a hard- hard not good childhood and holds onto a lot of bitterness and anger from past, so maybe HP is making him learn something other than how to be sober who knows. Time will tell.

This works for us and worked for a few couples (friends) I have shared with.. Once a week I tell him 2 or 3 things I am either happy about or proud of or just something that made me feel good with him and I. Doesnt matter how small or silly it is. When I do this I see so much more pride in him and effort from him, and I mean what I say I dont make things up. I keep track of things as they pop in head and make sure I leave him his weekly note in lunch box, email, text or whatever I feel like doing. I spice it up LOL I learned this years ago in therapy when I was going thru a hard times, I decided to try it on him and it helps.

Positive words are very powerful we ALL tend to dwell and talk about negative things (very natural) and we forget to give that pat on the back or remind someone of the good or the good feeling they gave you.



-- Edited by Iwantthingsback on Thursday 17th of October 2013 10:49:58 AM

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I can imagine after time what it can do I have lost some feelings and for now.... on good days they come back. One day they may not. I have also seen in my family and with a dear friend of mine (both long time A's) with a stronger love and relationship because of it. My uncle and friend are seriously; turn out to be someone you wish you had! They are strong men and the woman who stayed and stood by them for yrs, my goodness what they went thru! ALL situations are different.

Oh dont get me wrong.. I have my days. AND it has only been 2 yrs thank god mainly good, but I assure you if it keeps up and or the bad outweighs the good I have NO qualms about getting out. Would I hate leaving YES, would I miss him horrible YES, and every other emotion and sadness. But, if I can leave a physically abusive relationship at age 18, a very control monster I was married to for years (he didnt change until 2 yrs into the marriage), and I lost my step son who was MY son because he wouldnt let me see him. Lost one of my best loves because he decided he was gay after 2-yrs now that HURT!!! But we are still friends. After being single a while I met a GREAT guy, so so happy, treated me so good, happy, but hmmmmmmm, he wasnt traveling to NC for the year for work.. he was married and going home to family. Dropped him like a hot cake. Single for too many years then Tommy fell in my lap. Beat them ALL, the best thing that ever-ever happened to me, the deepest love I ever felt (and feel some days)!!! Until 8 months in when he drank, and drank again, and oh, forgot to tell me he was an A! And so many other pains in life.

As much as I love him and it would kill me if this didnt work out and I mean rip my heart out, one thing I can do is get out of a bad relationship. I know for a FACT it is going to hurt and suck but I also know time heals all pain and the knowledge, experiences and strength each of them has giving me is remarkable. My BF asked me the other day, dont you wish you didnt have to go through all you have been through? I said absolutely not I am grateful (now) for all I went through. And I certainly wouldnt be able to deal with Tommy boy (my A) had I not gone through all that. I hope the HP had me go thru what I have gone through because I was supposed to meet Tom. If not, Tom is another lesson and more strength gained for whatever or whoever lies ahead.

If and when you decide to do something, I promise you it will be ok!! And everyone derive real love and not to settle for anything less! I truly feel for you. I am sure you have, but have you read co- dependent no more? Or letting go and moving on type of books? XOXOX



-- Edited by Iwantthingsback on Thursday 17th of October 2013 03:13:31 PM



-- Edited by Iwantthingsback on Thursday 17th of October 2013 03:15:10 PM

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I read your post and then read this reading I receive everyday:) thought I would share: Today's thought from Hazelden is:


Acceptance is not submission; it is acknowledgment of the facts of a situation. Then deciding what you're going to do about it.
--Kathleen Casey Theisen

Recovery offers us courage to make choices about the events of our lives. Passive compliance with whatever is occurring need no longer dominate our pattern of behavior. Powerlessly watching our lives go by was common for many of us, and our feelings of powerlessness escalated the more idle we were.

Today, action is called for -- thoughtful action in response to the situations begging for our attention. Recovery's greatest gift is the courage to take action, to make decisions that will benefit us as well as the people who are close to us. Courage is the byproduct of our spiritual progress, courage to accept what we cannot change, believing that all will be well, courage to change in ourselves what we do have control over.

An exhilaration about life accompanies the taking of action. The spell that idleness casts over us is broken, and subsequent actions are even easier to take. Clearly, making a choice and acting on it is healthful. The program has given us the tools to do both.

Decisions will be called for today. I will be patient with myself, and thoughtful. I will listen closely to the guidance that comes from those around me.



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Thank you for the wonderful posts. I am dealing with a dry drunk of 28 years and it is so hard. AH
Has been going to AA For 2 years but i fear it will take him years to face his reality and or demons.
I attend alanon, my AH and i don't really talk anymore, too much hurt and pain has been done in
The last two years in his recovery. No apologies or remorse for the his very bad behavior. I pretty
Much stay on my side of the street but it very lonely and hurtfull place to be. I know i need to work
The steps and get a sponsor and try to make myself happy but i really don't know if i can living
With him. The sometimes emotional abuse, the snarky comments, a little put down here and there.
Other times perfectly normal friendly happy not withdrawn. It is very hard to live with i am always
Off balance. My therapists have helped loads with these issues but it still is very heartbreaking.


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And part of forgetting to do this...... give that pat on the back or remind someone of the good or the good feeling they gave you. Is because we are so mad and so resentful.................... it is hard to say good things sometimes, but I do it, makes him feel good and I feel pretty good saying it.......... self reminder as well that there is SOME good :)



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It was the good times that kept me locked into the madness to be honest. Years of waiting for little bits of happiness. It is part of the madness. Well it was for me. You sound different from how I felt. After many years of living with an alcoholic I no longer saw him as my best friend, I viewed him as my worst enemy. No-one has ever hurt me as much as this person has so you seem to be in a different place from where I was which has got to be a good thing. You clearly love your husband and you still have a relationship of some sorts with loving feelings. 

I never felt like that. I was always scheming about leaving him, I had a new plan every month. When my friends spoke of their love for their husbands or partners I could never relate. I felt different, I wanted out for years. I knew I was not in a healthy relationship but I couldn't leave, I was addicted to him and the chaos. Alanon is helping me with this because I am looking at these aspects of me and at this point Im quite angry that I stayed for as long as I did, angry with him and me but I am working on forgiveness and empathy. Im trying to fake it until I make it if you know what I mean. 

Loving an alcoholic is not really something I relate too because I cant really say I loved him, I was obsessed, I disliked him in so many ways, I was connected to him in some crazy way but none of it was love. Thanks for sharing.x



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I left him around 5 yrs ago. I just up and went, left everything behind. It took another 4 yrs before I really broke free though. For some reason I couldn't move on and I kept him in my life in some form or other. Im glad you dont have the bitterness I feel. Its not good to feel the way I do a lot of the time. We have 3 children all over the age of16 now and I am still bitter and resentful. I think its partly to do with being aware of things now. You know, the whole relationship was based on denial and that protects you in a way but take the denial away and the truth hits you on the face and it needs to be accepted, thats where I am right now. I think though that it took me a long time to become this affected - 20yrs living with an alcoholic so your relationship is fairly new and the fact that you are in Alanon and taking care of yourself so well suggests you wont put up with it for years and years. Its good that you know how to look after yourself. Keep up with this program, it will ensure your own healthy attitude remains.x



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Denial lifts for me when I can be with warm, supportive people who share their experience/strength/hope. Acceptance for me comes when I know I'm not alone and everything isn't up to just me. Thanks for the post, I. Helps me a lot of ways. (((I)))

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I  relate to the comment made about the alcoholic being my worse enemy! I too wanted out of the madness and by the power of my higher power today, I am free from the insanity! I went from being head over heals in love with him to resenting him so bad I hated him with everything in me! I could not even stand to see his face! I had to go for therapy and cry many, many tears of what was, could have been to finally being able to let go! I even had to pray for him and that was not easy! Today I feel no resentments toward him, just relief to be away from his alcoholic insanity and abuse! I stayed because I loved him and after the last physical beating he gave me, I had enough! I called the police and started my healing! It worth all the tears!       



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