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i surrender i give up , im emtoinal broken down. i cant think of a reason to stay here . im dont fighting with my A , to many hurtful words were tossed theres no recovery from what we both said. im to sick to get help, im so confused and he sits there and smirks and tells me how sick and twisted my mind is. i wouldnt be this way if he just left me be. there is no place for me to recover from all i been thru. if i want help or a rehab for the co depenent i need to show proof of harm for anyone to help me.. then take the chance later to have it use against me to take my kids. i wish my mother was alive ........ i wish i had family that cared and would help me in this tie of confustion. .. i dont need my AAAAAA to tell me im sick,,, if i can find a place to take e in tio help me recover i might stand a chance .
PLEASE call 911 or distress hotline of some sorts.....I don't even know what to say except, Please call for help.....U can get hospitalization if you are distressed enough which I think you are.......Peace and prayers to you
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Live and let live and do it with peace and goodwill to all!!!!
I imagine we've all been in that space where we don't see how things could get better or how we could make it from here to there. Living with the chaos of alcoholism can wear anyone down until it falsely feels like there are no options. Remember F.E.A.R. -- False Evidence Appearing Real. A major sign of depression is thinking that things can never get any better. That's a disease like the flu is a disease -- but it does not represent reality. It sounds as if you really need a break and more support. The National Suicide Prevention Hotline is 1-800-273-8255. Please call it and talk to someone, because you are important. You need a little help up so you can figure out the options for making your life better -- and there are options. I'm sure everyone here has had that experience where we had no idea how to get out of the darkness and into the light. It takes tools (Al-Anon and therapy can give us a lot of tools), support (meetings, sponsor, developing friendship networks, clearing our minds so we have time to forge closer relationships), and ways to make more time in our lives and clear out the chaos. Don't give up just before the miracle happens. Please get help right away, go to meetings as often as you can, and start using the tools hard. I promise you there is great hope. Hugs.
If you can't get out because you have no means of support I would go to your nearest
State Government welfare office with your children and tell them you need help.
Al state have government assistance.
Don't stay with him if he is hurting you. It's not worth it
I'm so so sorry your going though this but you must use every form of assistance available to you
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Lord, put your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth
Speak only when you feel that your words are better than your silence.
There is hope and there must be some part of you that knew we would be here to hold your hand if you reached out and here we are. I agree w post-ers above, call emergency or hotline, there is always help there; do not stay if he is hurtng you in any way; you will not have chance for clarity if you are in the chaos.
I agree w FEAR slogan too; our minds can do a number on us, especially after trying to live with this disease and all it can do.
I hope you feel the support here; pls call and get help and let us know how you are doing
The jig is up. We all know you're not going to go through with that type of thing. You have our attention, which you've always had, and this a cry for help.
I've been where you are and although the thoughts and hopelessness were there, I knew I never had the gonads to pull it off.
The only answer I can give this is to get out of the house! go to meetings, go to the park, talk to people. I've hit the lowest of lows to and there's nowhere to go but up.
Sis what you are going thru is what is called "Our Bottom"...We're done, there is no more room to move around it and the only way out is to stop it all and go for help which you have done here and then you are there. You can do the same thing there as you have done here...call mental health, the hospital or Help in Emotional Trouble or the church or emergency or a Family Ourtreach program or the like and say "I need help" and then talk it out.
Let us know how that comes out. You are not alone. (((((hugs)))))
Thank you for your trust in us. We believe in you. We know you are going to make some really positive changes for yourself. Keep coming back. We're here with you.
Glad you're here with your Alanon family who understands and cares. Please get to a safe place where there is help. The chaos can easily overwhelm and falsely make it seem like you're stuck in the untenable situation, but there is a way out and there are options. Please be gentle with you and let us know how you're doing.
It sounds to me like you have reached 'bottom' Its not a happy place but its where i and many people here came from. My bottom was the place I finally reached out for help at Alanon and for the first time in my life I was honest with myself. My life had become unmanageable and I was powerless. Sounds like you are ready to be honest with you. Take care.x
Dear one I am so glad you came here! That is what we are here for!!! I so get where you are. A week ago I was hanging on by a thread.
But these people here and my fb are what put some good thoughts in my head.
I know for me hon, it is more I don't want to die, I just do not want things to be the way they are anymore! look at your options, there are many. they may sound dumb, outrageous, whatever but they are still options!I believe you may need direction. A hotline is a great idea.
How are you doing now? Is there anyone you can go to? I am alone too so I get it.
Please know we here at MIP care very much and need you! praying for you hon, debilyn
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"It's not so much being loved for ourselves, but more for being loved in spite of ourselves."
I don't know what your finances are, or if you have any insurance, but there are private clinics, hospitals and programs available to treat co-dependency. The Pavillan in Ashville NC, has a variety of in house (hospital) 12 step modality treatment programs and one of them is a 3 week in patient treatment program specifically for co-dependents. If your codependency is adversely affecting your quality of life, to the degree that suicide is looking like a reasonable option, a way out of the pain it is creating in your life, I would strongly suggest you contact someone locally, (Emergency Rooms usually have a social worker these days that do mental health pre-screening that might have the resources to refer you to the right people, and possibly resources to help with the funding for that treatment), the Crisis Intervention Mobile med teams are all over the country now... if you call 911, they can get them to you rather quick, and they can help get you pointed in the right direction. In short, there are other options available, besides suicide. It might take making a few phone calls, or going to talk to someone about what is going on, how you are feeling and what you are thinking but it is worth it. My personal experience has been that when I got to the place of considering suicide as a reasonable option or solution, its not because I really wanted to die but rather because I wanted the pain to stop. I wanted to kill it. With what felt like my last living breath, I reached out to a few mental health professionals in my area and they did help me find the resources I needed to find a sense of hope, and my healing and recovery began in that area of my life. Please, if you don't do anything else, go to an Al-Anon meeting and speak up, tell the group what you are feeling and thinking, that suicide is looking more and more like a warm invitation, instead a tragedy in the making. Just be honest. Cry if you want or it comes over you, don't hold anything back... and more than likely someone will reach out to you.. grab them with all your might and hang on... they can take you from Hopeless Avenue to Hope-filled Blvd.
I know, I was there, right where you are now... and nothing magically got better without my being proactive towards getting the help I so badly needed. I didn't want to die... I wanted the pain to stop. They showed me through example how to bring it to an end and keep it there, in check so I never have to travel Hopeless Avenue again.
John
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" And what did we gain? A new life, with purpose, meaning and constant progress, and all the contentment and fulfillment that comes from such growth."
when i posted this yes i hit rock bottom .there was only so much more i could take. i was doing well i felt like i was getting better. If my A would of stoped his digs i would not be where im at today. my A likes to rub it in my face when i dont get the call backs i make to ppl on the list or when no one wants to listen to me because there cant tell me what to do. only guide me that way. I never did things on my own ,everything i started was always taken from me and finsihed. i never try to kill my self yes shame on me for the way i might of put it in wrong words. i know i am smart i have a brain ,its just all confused right now from the A sobiety and my PTSD are out of the closet now and are active!!!!!!! and my children are now displaying ANGER due to the change in the house. my husband recovery was a earthquake , it happened fast , I am suffering from the after shocks that are worst then the earthquake itself,now the children are feeling the tremors . It is so hard to keep up . try to stay on track but what track am i on ? I am dealing with a husband that was selfish when he drank and now selfish in his recovery. HE says to me if he drinks he dies, ok i see that . But if i cant follow a program because he still feels the need to have his momemts of belittling and behavior worst then when he is drinking .I said to him i will die to , if i dont get my support and help and guidance my chance of living is the same . yes you drink fall off the wagon but you can recover. ME if not given the chanse to start my recovery my life can end to ,i will end up crazy put in a hospital or who know what else could happen. He still thinks is he the main priority here , sorry wife my drinking caused me to stray and neglect you and not be around the kids .( im sorry ) OK now he says he healthy ,then whats the escuse with not giving me a hand on the home life, get to know your kids give me a break and let me try to empty my head and put in the right pieces back in my head so this fog will go away. He say Im sorry but my first and always needs are for myself every one else comes after. When he says these things its not in a nice way. its not sincere he is very demeaning. He might be sober but he still a DONKEY . we had a family meeting and i asked for my oldest to be here because she is family . He felt she didnt desrve to be here she moved out because of my A she could not live in the house and see the way he treats me and the kids she moved in with her dad, my A SAID YUP SHE RAN AWAY FROM HER PROBLEMS thas not fair for him to say that she left because it was unhealthy and she was being taking down to. Today she is better the family meeting began i children were giving the freedom to say and exspress how they feel to there father without him yelling at them or punishing them. My 12 year old son said to him why is it when we fight him and his sister you tell us your going to have the police come down and take them away and put in a hospital for good. my A responce was yes because i dont need you guys make me start drinking again thats why i leave when you are fighting he tell a 12 and 10 year old there on there own the A say he does not have to listen to it or be here or fix it. my son started to cry and said well your the parent he said sorry my sobrietycomes first
I want to thank every one here for all there help and hearing my story . I found out today that I should not be on this sight this board,. I see it now why I'm having a hard time to accept and find my higher power . This will be my last post here . I don't belong here, I thought my A did the worst thing ever to me was to betray me by having me get medically cleared from the hospital . I now know who ms co-dependent is ! I am broken in tiny pieces and some are missing I am not FIXABLE. I left myself open again . How I do not know , I moved upstairs to the bedroom that's where I live right now. I like my room my space I like locking my door I feel safe upstairs . I now-feel like I'm that kid again .my A looked at his actions and said he could of came home to see if I was ok but he didn't want to he wanted some one else to check on me. He could of called a friend or my daughter to see if I was ok but he chose to call police and the rest follows. Today my A ask if he can talk to me , ok I'm thinking what's the worst that could happen now . He decided to bring up my past (PTSD )I'm sure he ment no harm , I think . He started with how are you sleeping at night? Do you like your new bedroom? Please look at this from my point Alalon friends , my A became sober and yes I was forced to go threw it with him sink or swim right, well I didn't know how to swim in the first place so I was always keeping my head up from the water. Then A says to little a , I did a review over my inventory and came across something (you) do. So I'm looking at him and trying to breath for the following blame. He says I see who you are he had a book and he dicided to ask me questions about my past knowing I only no little about it that I no I was abused and neglected and assaulted . Well he put a name to my assault , survivors of sexual abuse.. I always new I was different and odd and shut down during a fight and kept to myself all the co-dependent ways I was unaware of any sexual abuse' my A read me 2 pages of the signs and symptoms of sexual abuse and I passed the test with a 100 and the bonus question to.. Now he knows my attitude and negative behavior has not much to do with his drinking and he was able to fix one of his flaws now he feels better. He just opened up the flood gated for me by giving me to much Id on who I am before I even got there. He has activated every unknown trigger yet to come out of me.. Every one of those questions brought me back to the age 4 my first assault he has forced me to remember things that has not surfaced yet. He stated he can see how I'm sick why I feel used why I feel like I have no soul no purpose here, there's no need for Alalon now! It's not from his drinking he says I'm going to the wrong meetings I need a sexual assault sight. All I could do is sit here and listen to him tell me to much info and tears come out. So said thank you for not shoving it my face but jamming down my throat to label me before my PTSD dr had a chance to. Thank you all for hearing me confirm I was not only physical verbal and mentally neglected emotional abuse but add sexual to the list I can see why I don't fit in with Alalon why I can't find my higher power I'm In the wrong group , my A solved my charicters defects . I will not take up a space here in Alalon when some one else can benefit from it
Ms C, with respect, it sounds like he's just objectifying you and trying to make you behave like what he wants to see you as- a broken down sexual assault victim. His broken barbie-doll. My dad is an A and an abuser and he uses tricks like that and so did my ex-husband. It's a tactic.
I don't clearly understand why you share so much information with him but I do think you're just feeling broken and beaten down right now and letting his head-games win. Seek some extra help, but don't burn your bridges here!
And for the love of everything that's holy, why are you letting him manage your recovery? It's not his business.
Many hugz.
Mel.
I told him very little about my past because it just surface when he started his recovery . . I should of got up and walked away instead of sit there while he continue to read ry he list of signs that I have and that I show on everyday basis . Things I didn't even know . I feel violated by him telling me things I do and act and not realize I do . I'm so messed up now more so because I can see myself in the mirror now not like before . How am I surpose act and respond to this ? Take the chance he have me taken to the hospital again. It's so hard not to block him out my head is always open and now there's room for new trouble . I'm hurt right now and confused did he do the right thing to tell me all this ? Was he truly showing me he loves me by reveal things I did not no . Maybe I'm taking it to QTIP . But dam it.. No more I'm glad he was able to find his defect and fast to let me know it wasn't his it was mine so I guess he will sleep good tonight
. I will not take up a space here in Alalon when some one else can benefit from it
Big internet hugs to you.
None of us is really 'taking up space' here as the internet is about as big as the universe, I think. Someone smarter than me can probably put a number on it (infinity?). There's plenty of room and you are most welcome all the time.