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New stage in my recovery





Its not really giving up on anyone, including our own kids.

Its called "loving detachment" and its not done with anger. Or oh boy, I will show whose boss. Its done with compassion.

I sometimes have to detach from my daughters craziness and she is not an A, but she has her issues brought on by a Father who abducted her at the age of 6 and kept her from me till she was 25, thats how long the re union took.

I could have fell into , I will do anything for you trap, because of all the missing years. But I had to parent, she was a broken child at 25. I find that we cannot be all things to our children. They have to find their way and their higher power. Its been a long road of recovery for her and me. Alanon prepared me.

But we can be a good and compassionate teacher and sometimes it takes being strong and being a good and compassionate parent is saying , NO!

Hugs, Bettina



-- Edited by Bettina on Thursday 1st of August 2013 04:45:44 PM

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Cathy: I think these transitions are very difficult to make. As a Mom who has watched my son bounce about for close to 12 years, I can tell you that each transitional phase takes us through an entire grief cycle. There is no straight line and there is no perfect way to work through all of this.   There is just your way and that is the perfect way for you. So grieve as you must, feel what you do, be who you are and know that you are so right - this, too, will pass. And your HP WILL be with you through it all in ways that you will recognize and require. The heart of a Mother runs deep and is as wide as an ocean. There will be strong winds that blow the waves of your heart crashing against the shores of your life. Those waves will also recede.

No matter how hard the waves of emotions within you might hit. No matter how far back they might recede. Underneath all of that is the stillness and peace of that which is truly un-name-able. It will sustain you through it all. Your thinking will change. Your feelings will change. You will be transformed a little more. This is my experience. This is my strength. This is my hope. I don't know if my E/S/H will help you. I just know that it is what I have and want to offer you at this challenging time in your life.



-- Edited by grateful2be on Thursday 1st of August 2013 09:44:10 PM

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I truly think now I will be going through a new stage.  I think I will not be in contact with my son because he has let go.  He had quit talking to everyone in this life and mom is the last one.

I will give him up forever if it means recovery but I will also have some sad feelings going forward.  I'm going to have to work hard on this new stage in recovery.....but this too shall pass.

I love him.......I will Let go Let God



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Cathyinaz wrote:

I truly think now I will be going through a new stage.  I think I will not be in contact with my son because he has let go.  He had quit talking to everyone in this life and mom is the last one.

I will give him up forever if it means recovery but I will also have some sad feelings going forward.  I'm going to have to work hard on this new stage in recovery.....but this too shall pass.

I love him.......I will Let go Let God


 ((((((((((((((Cathy)))))))))))))))))))    I am sooo sorry, but yea, I can relate to having to "give him up forever if it means recovery"     for him AND for you......

My 2nd AH was a GOOD man...I loved him to pieces...I Just didn't want to watch him die...AND I wanted recovery for ME, if he wasn't going to go to AA, I damn sure was gonna go to Alanon...I gave him up....b/c it meant my healing...HARD thing to do..all those years together, and I finally decided....Recovery or I give you up...I said that to him....He said he didn't "need" AA...I needed Alanon....I knew I would change...We would change...I knew it was over

I can't even imagine having to give up on your own kid b/c of this......That is even harder, I can bet......U R soo strong...Soo open adn honest about this....You WILL be ok...I know you are gonna be OK....We got ya, Cathy ok????? 



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Bettina wrote:

They have to find their way and their higher power. Its been a long road of recovery for her and me. Alanon prepared me. 

But we can be a good and compassionate teacher and sometimes it takes being strong and being a good and compassionate parent is saying , NO!

Hugs, Bettina



-- Edited by Bettina on Thursday 1st of August 2013 04:45:44 PM


 yea, I had to detach from Daughter #2....I love her, but I cannot control, change or cure her of what causes her to behave the way she does....She only wants me when she needs me so I , like Bettina said,  detach w/love and peace.....I dont' want to hurt her or punish her, I just want to take care of me and not put myself out there for her to push my buttons or use and discard me.......

I will always do the right thing, like the day they induced her labor, I knew hubby was off that day and no worries...but I would have made sure she had a way to the hospital......so yea, I have the right to protect my heart.....I have the right to eliminate as much stress as I can b/c it is physically and mentally harmful for me......it not about a  "back at ya" about me, its all about taking care of me



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Good thing we don't do forevers...when we can only do todays.  Crystal Ball broke from all of the overtime use....I'm glad. ((((hugs)))) smile



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The idea of letting go forever can be reframed more positively. Maybe letting go of expectations more thoroughly. Cathy, I could understand limiting interactions to much more structured settings if possible. I know some of the biggest hurt come from letting him in your safe space and then him violating that. Very strong detachment is often needed for parents and partners whose qualifiers are as sick as your son. It may not be "I am done with you" but "I am done with you until further notice." We all need time to regroup and that's okay. You are still new at learning to protect yourself from his disease after having self-admittedly enabled it for years up until earlier this year.

PS - I know my response to you is different than if your qualifier was your husband. Also...I guess I just think the notion of "I give up on you forever" is equal but onthe other eextreme of I will take cre of you no matter what." So many shades of grey in between. Dark grey maybe but still grey.

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Hearing the hurt.  Sending hugs  ((((cathy)))))  TT



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I am going through the same thing with my son.   He has lived with me for  the past 8  years and it has been a struggle.  Being an addict and bi-polar is not a good combination.   After he blew up in my kitchen in March destroying a chair - smashing it on the floor 3 times, cutting his leg, throwing a bucket of paint on the walls and floor and breaking a window, I had to set a boundary.   I called the police and put a temporary restraining order on him and a permanent one a few weeks later.  It is for 4 years and it is the hardest thing I have ever done.   But I did it to protect both of  us.  I knew if I didn't do it, I would relent and let him back in my home.     He is 41 and needs to become independent.   He is on disability so he does have some income and he is also working part time.    Now I have been subpoenaed to court at the end of the month to testify for the destruction of property and disorderly conduct.    I had already talked to the DA but did not mention his drug use.   Now I will.  I cannot lie and it may even get him some help.  I will meet with the DA and the victim's advocate a week before the trial.   This is not the first  time I have seen my son in court and it is heartbreaking.   I know that I cannot figure him out and his addiction and I would go crazy trying to do so.    I need a life and some peace.  Eight years of him breaking my stuff and exploding is more than I can handle.   He had some very good times with long periods of sobriety and one wonders why he threw it all away.  It is part of the disease and I can't spend anymore of my life trapped in his disease.   My head can go back there so easily and my heart aches for him.  It is so hard living 2 lives.  But now it is time to focus on me.   All I know is that I feel a tremendous amount of loss.    But I guess that is the cost of co-dependency.    For now all I can do is give him to his HP.   



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Cathy,

I just realized after my post that you talked to me last night.    Hope to be in AZ soon.   Love it there.  Right now I live in Wisconsin and can't wait to leave.

Carol

 



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I love my son and I hope to have him in my life someday but he disrespected me, my boundaries and he better realize I mean business. I wanted him with me and I thought we could still have contact as long as the boundaries were kept. They were broken BIG TIME and it hurt to think he would do that. Come to my home drunk and continued to drink and drive. Lie to my face after all the work we did on setting those boundaries.

I don't know if he went to the ranch or not. He might be sleeping in his car tonight for all I know.

I know he knows I'm very very upset with him and that is why he stays away. He also gets mad me for nagging him but he got what was coming to him...he should have known better than come here drunk/drugged.

Thank you all so much

PS: Went to a good meeting tonight but didn't ask anyone about being my sponsor. Still looking.

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When the student is ready the teacher come - Jerry F :) You will find your sponsor and she will be exactly what you need. I always go back to my analogy of Alice and wonderland. I fall through a rabbit hole it's not pretty during the ride. I look like a mess feel like a mess. The reality is I've taken another step in healing and my program. Hugs p :)

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