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I knew this day would come.


Oh honey my heart breaks for you! This is exactly what makes me say I don't care if my ex AH is sober on program ten years I just cannot go back.

Can feel your pain big time. maybe you can be happy you were there to experience a good time of recovery with your loved one. Also day at a time as he is still there, no dui yet, working.

You may still have precious time to love and enjoy him. I will invite you to keep your eyes open. I mean to make sure he does feed, mine lied ONE time. I said did you feed??? He said yes I said well the animals are telling me different. He had not, no way.

You are doing great. Now...detach. he is drinking, so what? he is an A, it is almost always going to happen. I invite you to think,I am so glad he is still here. Possibly set things up so if he does get on your nerves, you have  place to go, i mean like your own bedroom or a place to watch tv alone or read or whatever.

It was so freeing for me when he was using to be able to be with him and not even pay to mind he was drunk or whatever. I only wanted to be with my husband as long as I could.

BE here now. Look for the good, give HP the rest. do your best to love this time. As they progress it well it is not pleasant, and you may decide you cannot handle it. that is ok. If he is not violent you may be able to have a lot more time than I did.

I care about you so much pretty young but old timer! debilyn



-- Edited by Debilyn on Saturday 20th of July 2013 03:49:00 PM

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I knew this day would come. My alcoholic (Cowboy) started drinking again. He had been sober for 3 1/2 years, but no program. Said he could do it on his own, only the weak needed AA. I never argued with him, or tried to convince him otherwise, because I knew it would do no good. I knew that without a program he was doomed to fail, and when he cut even his church connection (which is how I personally think he stayed sober that long) I knew it wouldn't be long. It still came as a shock, however this morning.

"I broke my drinking thing," he said.

I responded, "Oh?" and tried to sound as uninterested as possible.

"Tim (one of his drinking buddies from before) asked me to have a drink with him the last day of the rodeo," my Cowboy replied.

"Really," I responded as my heart fell.

"I couldn't let him down, we had worked so hard."

"Yeah," I quietly said.

"And I got tired of not being able to sleep," he said. "Two to three hours of sleep a night is not enough."

"No it's not," I agreed.

"So last night I bought a six pack." he said.

I did not respond.

"And the first one went down so easy." he surprisely said.

I was not surprised, but did not respond.

"Then I drank another, and was able to sleep all night!" he surprisedly said.

"You drank the whole six pack?" I couldn't help myself anymore, I had to ask.

"No." he firmly said. "I drank four."

I'm thinking, yeah that's all it took... this time.  But I said nothing.

"I went to sleep at 10 p.m. and passed out. (a term he hasn't used in about 3 1/2 years) I probably wouldn't have even woke up this morning if you hadn't called me." he said.

I wanted to cry, to scream, to shake some sense into him, but I did nothing. I knew it wouldn't do any good. So I stayed silent. 

"Has he forgot?" I said to myself. "Has he forgot how his throat closed off and he couldn't swallow 3 1/2 years ago?" (Esophageal Varices) 

"Has he forgot that he just said to me a few weeks ago how during his 'drinking days' he couldn't remember anything (blackouts) and the auctioneers were taking advantage of him?" (He buys, sells and trades horses and other items for a living.)

"Has he forgotten how his friend, Perry (an old drinking buddy) died of liver failure when he started drinking again?" I continued to ask myself.

"No," I answered. "He knows."

He seemed so happy this morning as we went out to feed the animals, I couldnt' help to be somewhat happy too. Hadn't I just said about a month ago that I missed the "old Cowboy?" The one that laughed and cut up and was fun? I'm eating those words now.

I know what the future holds (not projecting just fact). The disease will progress rapidly and he will either seek AA or die. I can't help but be sad, because I love him. We have known each other for 9 years, married 3 of those years, divorced 4 years ago next month because of the drinking. Two and a half years ago we got back together, as he had quit. Now I know I'm going to have some decisions to make, but I'm going to take it One Day at a Time and practice what I preach! LOL.

I SO don't want to go down this road. Alcoholism, it's cunning, baffling and powerful!  I hate this disease! 

How many times have I heard the saying in open AA meetings: "We alcoholics either get locked up, covered up, or sobered up!" I know this to be true. I have been in this program for 20+ years why should it be different for him? I think a part of me wanted to believe that maybe he was the exception, maybe HE could actually beat this thing without AA, but I know that without a recovery program, that is not possible. I've seen it to many times. Sheer will power alone can not do it. The alcoholic needs the support of his fellows, or he will fail. no

Just this morning (before he told me he had started drinking again), I made this comment, "You know, I have the strangest thoughts at the most inopportune times." 

"What do you mean?" he said.

"Well, here we are having intimate time, and I'm thinking, 'Will I be allowed to come to Cowboy's funeral?' (His family does not like me.)" I stated.

Cowboy responded by laughing out loud rather sarcastically. "Yeah, that is weird." He said.

Now I know the "rest of the story", as Paul Harvey would say. 

Well... now it's time for ME to plan my work and work my plan. Meetings as often as I need them, thank God for this site! Get back to f2f meetings pronto! Continue to do things for me, and set my boundaries. Pray. Pay attention to my needs, get them met. Do a daily inventory. Make my al-anon phone calls. Draw in my support. Remember my slogans: Easy Does It, ODAAT, Live and Let Live, Think, How Important is it?, Together we can make it.

Remember my al-anon program: The 12 Steps & Traditions, Serenity Prayer, Just for Today, Detach with Love, and when I can't, just Detach. Face reality, allow myself to Grieve, remember this is a disease, the 3 C's, Boundaries, the three A's, ask for help when I need it, watch my expectations for they become resentments. Seek guidance from the God of my Understanding. Remember Cowboy has a Higher Power too and it's not me. Do the footwork.

Ok, I'm done giving myself a pep talk... it's your turn! LOL I need reassurance that "I" am going to be ok.

 

Thanks for reading my post.

Overcome

 



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Hugs Overcome .. I don't have any words of wisdom outside of to say .. yes, .. you are going to be ok. Just based upon your post .. yes .. you are going to be ok.

You will know when you know and you already know how to take care of yourself that is huge.

Sending lots of love and support, hugs P :)



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The disappointment,the feelings are heartbreaking but we all know it will pass and we move forward. I just know what your feeling right now.

We pray, work to keep ourselves sane and Let Go Let God

Love and support coming your way (((( hugs ))))




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Soooo Sorry, but sooo not surprised....They CANT do it w/out AA....My A brother told me last year, his liver was enlarged and he tried to minimize it by saying "but oh, Doc. said not very bad, but it is enlarged".....I asked him what was he gonna do about it   "oh lay off the booze for a while and I'll be ok" 

I mentioned AA an maybe that was a sign...He didn't "need AA..."  he could "handle this on his own"

He staid clean for about 4 months or so, was bitchy and irritable and difficult to talk with be as he began to feel better and eat better he DID seem to get better

I knew..Being in recovery 11 years, I knew it would not last...It didn't ..He went on a "bender" for about 4 days...nobody knew where he was...Alive or dead??? Noone knows

he called me when he "came back to earth" and told me he had crashed out at a truck stop or something...In his car...drinking...sleeping it off....and of course he felt like crap warmed over, "coming off" his latest

I didn't say a word..I know better...Its no use....Hes gonna die one day...One day our mutual friend, Cliffy will call me and say "Hey, they found "R" "  

I know this sounds weird..He is a genious of a marine electronics engineer...The guy is brilliant...I mean the coast guard use his services..He goes out on "sea trials" on these BIG ships to maintain their electronic communication systems, those wires you see going up the masts of some of these other boats, the radar looking things on the coast guard ships and other big vessels....9 times out of 10 if it is in NE coast, it is HIS work..

I love it when he "goes out to sea"  b/c I know he has to either stay sober OR , he and captain may have a couple of beers at night when its not their turn to skipper the ship....He keeps it cool when he is out to sea

I just wish someone would take him out there and they would STAY out there.....He loves his boats...I dont' know how many vessels in Cape Cod, MA that he "babysits" an he enjoys it...His drinking, he can't keep an apt. b/c he defaults on his rent, so he lives like a gypsy....floating from boat to boat...

One day they will find him on one of his beloved ships...Gone...but I guess that is the only way hes going to get free b/c he does "not need AA"   his words

I love him, hes my buddy, we dated each other's friends, but one day he will be brother #2 to leave this earth an leave me....brother #1 didn't die from the drink...He feared the propensity of alcoholism, he never in his life drank...He got the flue and refused to get medical help for it and it got so bad, it shut down his lungs and body and he passed

So I know where you are coming from.....and I like your approach......Work alanon take care of you,  slogans, steps, meets, boards....communicating w/us other alanoners....And ya go one day at a time

I am lucky I don't have to live with it anymore...I divorced AH #2 who was very nice to me, but I did not want to see him drink himself into the ground...

I don't know if addiction runs in my family, but I work my program for me and my "addict personality".....I can buy a box of oreos, organice ones at Kroger grocery story and if I am in the "right mood" I can start on that box and plow through half of it till I am ready to bust...So I don't have "certain foods"   (all chocolate related)  in my house....I just keep them OUT...I can go to my daughters or a friends and be "ok"  but if I buy organic milk choc. bars...oh 1 aint enough...So none of that stuff is in my house....

AND I work my program...do my steps , work the literature , work my worksheets....Yep...I do what I gotta do to take care of me, that is all I can do

I am glad U have your program plan in the works...U sound great...focused....and you accept it is what it is....

I am so very sorry he slipped.......Take care and ENJOY being just you....



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There used to be a member here (I haven't seen him in maybe a decade) who ended his entries with I'm going to be OK or You're going to be OK. Now I say that to you. You have identified HOW to be OK - I might make your items into a list to read when I lose my way.
Your acceptance is evident. You are OK.

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No real E/S/H to share with you. Just wanting you to know I've read your post and want to send you some encouragement and support as you deal with the new changes after his being dry for 3.5 years.

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thanks everyone, and Debilyn, we live separate, but see each other 2-3 times a week and talk daily. He too has animals, an acreage to care for, but it is his responsibity. Ever since the divorce I have had very set boundaries with him, because he is not (as I said) in a program, and I was afraid this day would come. But I am going to be ok... I know that now. My program kicked in and I took care of myself today. Went to two meetings, took a walk with my dog, made peaches for mom and I (my mom has Alzheimer's) and took my mom, daughter and myself to our church's ice cream social this evening. It was a good day after all!

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Glad to see that update, OC. Strong program work. Loved the reminder that our As have their own HPs. New development with my son today and the old churnings of concern/fear/worry have been trying to spend the night. The truth as you wrote it helps me to send them all on their way and get a good night sleep myself. (((OC & Mom)))

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I am sorry; a very sad post...an yet you did what you knew to do to care for yourself and loved ones.  Great recovery work, your HP was in charge in your life today.



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Hello Overcome, I share your sadness. Heartbreaking, I'm sorry. I've gotten angry in the past at his buddies that know he has a problem but deny it along with him and offer the temptation anyway. Sure it's HIS responsibility to say no, but I think their "buddies" aren't really friends at all, don't really care about HIM, they just want that person they drank with to come back so they can be comrades in arms. Take care of you.

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Your awareness is so great! Sending you lots of love, prayers and support!

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