The material presented
here is not Al-Anon Conference Approved Literature. It is a method
to exchange
information, ideas, feelings, problems and solutions on a personal
level.
What you decide about it is between your HP and you. Trying to find logical answers and a course of action with him will likely be futile. You will either get more broken promises - or he will say hurtful or insane things like "If I were you, I would stop nagging and finally give a little trust" or "If I were you I'd focus on (insert some insecurity or problem that you might have) and not worry so much about my having a few beers every now and then (notice gross underestimation of actual drinking LOL)" or "If I were you I would quit being so selfish cuz it's not like I'm hurting you when I drink. I'm only doing it to myself. (A typical delusion most alcoholics perpetuate all the way up until the end)"
This is how the active alcoholic thinks and that is the twisted logic you will get when they are in the grips of their disease. Don't expect him to be capable of true perspective taking and what it must be like to be in your shoes. If you read other posts on here, you see that we have qualifiers that are manipulating folks to the tune of traveling across the country to take care of them, letting them back in their lives despite histories of violent abuse (aggression, screaming, name calling), plowing through life savings, disrupting the lives of their parents, children, siblings with their whirlwind of self-sabotage.... Do you think these alcoholics would do these things if they had any ability to take the perspective of others? It is truly sad that when a person falls more and more under the grips of alcohol and/or addiction, they lose that ability to focus on and be of service to others. This is why once we are in recovery, we (alcoholics) try and live a life centered around service and thinking more about others. This is also why, once in alanon, we turn the focus on us because nothing we do can stop the whirlwind of destruction from continuing to whirl, but we can learn tools to step out of the way of the storm (metaphorically speaking).
Putting off your meetings or stepwork or making it all contingent upon his drinking is not helpful to you. Would you want him to put off working steps, getting a sponsor and going to AA meetings depending on your behavior? No. You are able to have that perspective since you are not the alcoholic. You want him to recover for himself but think it's rational to slow down your recovery depending on whether or not you can influence or change him with a letter. That is your own issue and that is part of your sickness that could be addressed in Alanon. Your needs come first and they do not need to be contingent upon him and what he does or does not do. Life is short and there is much out there to enjoy. Holding off on you getting well is denying yourself a full life and being happy joyous and free due to him. Take care of you no matter what. The best thing you could do for him and you is to plunge full force into Alanon and work it with the same veracity and effort you'd want to see him doing for his own recovery. If you model recovery, it is more likely he will be attracted to the notion. Hence, you not having a sponsor, not going to lots of meetings etc only tells him that he can make proclamations of getting sober without doing the work (just like you are half-working alanon and not getting results). If all you do is take little pieces of alanon and don't fully surrender (as step 1 suggests) you are just doing the same thing as him (albeit with less damaging and selfish consequences). True recovery is in the rooms, in the steps, and in having a sponsor. Do it all and don't expect any real recovery from him unless he starts doing the same. Nobody that is as progressed in their alcoholism succeeds in just "quitting" or "going on the wagon." He will need full recovery and a drastic psychic/lifechanging/spiritual shift. Until then, you are both stuck in a cycle of sickness. Get yourself well and then make choices about what to do regarding him.
-- Edited by pinkchip on Tuesday 5th of March 2013 09:59:30 AM
Hello out there everyone, I guess I'll start out by admitting that I haven't been working the steps on the boards, as faithfully as I'd intended. What's that saying about the road to hell being paved with good intentions (lol)? This past weekend, ABF surprised me by saying that he wanted to stop drinking because he didn't even derive pleasure from it anymore. I immediately rejoiced to myself, thinking that he'd finally seen the light. Sadly, it lasted for just about 2 days. He went through the angry, irritable-at-the-slightest thing stage, to a calm though restless stage. During those 2 days, he constantly played online games and stayed up until morning, but at least he wasn't drinking. Then, as soon as I dared to allow myself to hope that this time might be the beginning of recovery, today I noticed ABF was in a much more positive mood even after being awake for over 24 hrs. He was smiling, laughing, a little overly effusive, and my hope suddenly crashed. I've noticed this mood before, which usually preceeds a binge. And unfortunately, I was right. I then made the mistake of asking him about his declaration of 2 days ago, to which he replied that he meant he didn't want to drink on his worknights. He then went on to say that what he meant was that he didn't want to drink a 12-pack on his worknights...
After 2 tall boys, and 3 36 oz. bottles he passed out, with an unopened 36 oz. bottle by his side...and I began writing. I don't know why I bothered to write a lengthy letter to him, but I did. I asked him if our situation was reversed, what would He do? I also asked him if he would actually sit down with me so that we could formulate a plan for us to act upon.
I realize that in the end, the plan may only be the details of our parting ways, but hopefully he'll be able to be honest enough with himself and me to actually think this thing through.
I still plan to continue with the steps, though it may take me a little longer to get through them at this time.
Any prayers for HP guidance will be greatly appreciated!
Agreeing with Pinkchip here. Your best course of action is recovery for YOU! Keep coming back, keep searching for your own recovery. One step at a time!
I can also fully agree with pink chip. What i did in the beginning was learning what I learned in Al Anon, and trying to 'teach' him...that didn't work. I also tried to write clear letters, where i explained honestly what I felt, and where I tried to 'broaden ' his perspective...that didn't work. I even tried to 'own' his disease (like if with co-dependency 'only' , i didn't have already enough to figure out for myself), I felt the same pain, the same anxiety, the same confusion, to try and make it easier on him....well hell, that didn't work...it only made me go down with him in misery, and sometimes even he chose to let me go down alone...surprise. Alcoholism is not our disease, co-dependency might be, or is..because we make our life and hope and feelings depend on somebody with the disease of alcohol. We take a whole lot of crap, which isn't ours...my ex ABF used to called it 'sharing and caring'...i liked that concept of a relationship in the beginning, when i didn't know about what alcohol does to body, mind and spirit. and it surely is a good loving concept..with healthy, responsible people. Later I found out 'sharing and caring' only applied to me....I had to share and care....but when the day came when i needed some of that, well he didn't feel responsible for one minute to give that support to me. Unbalance. I keep my side of the street clean...and honestly...it's a hard work for now...but I believe it's worth it for my own sanity, identity and growth. I let the A keep his side as he want to be living in...right now i have no idea how and what he is doing....it's hard, it's unusual for me, that was used to sharing and caring. But i kind of think we might both learn something new here. And 'new' isn't necessarily bad, and it's surely 'better' than the chaos and pain of the past. Yes, one step at the time....i also just got the real meaning recently stay with yourself more than with anybody else. only then can you give to others. (((Raven Juniper))))
Thank you, everyone, for all your help. I realize that a thousand letters wouldn't change my ABF's perspective, but it was cathartic for me. I'm going to keep it for myself, for the days when I need a reality check. I feel that finding this site was a gift from HP, and realize that I need to work these steps for myself, because while it's true my ABF has a problem, so do I. Today I realized that I have no idea what a normal, healthy relationship is, and never will unless I get healthy myself. Thanks to you all again :)