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In court this morning


I made a choice to go to court to fight a massive bill I received for what amounts to an innocent mistake I made concerning the benefit rules. I suppose I want to get my feelings out here before I go this morning. I haven't defended myself in a courtroom since my divorce. I don't have a lawyer. I could have been given one but if I lost I'd have to pay him.  My higher power will be along and I have the truth. This has been looked at since by someone in their case review department and the amount was reduced because their billing department miscalculated what I owe.  I am hoping that the argument that if their own people don't know what I owe why would it be so hard to believe that someone could misunderstand their paperwork or when to notify them of changes in their situation.  I wasn''t going to go to court at first. Initially, it brought back all the ugly memories of my divorce, fear of being shamed. My exah and his lawyer had tried to exploit and shame me in court to win the case. Meanwhile the accusations were unfounded. In fact, they were actually things the ex was he guilty of. His side unsuccessful but it was an awful thing to go through. I've told myself that in some ways going to court today is the same. I don't know what to expect. I have no control over others and what they might say or do. 

I'm making the choice to go instead of just paying the bill because I deserve not to pay this bill which would take a long time to do.  I'm choosing not to become overwhelmed with fear of facing these people.  It's different because those old feelings I had in my divorce that kicked in at first... aren't facts after twelve years in this program recovering.  I don't have to accept an unacceptable situation and I don't believe I deserve one either. I don't have to suggest a compromise due to a false belief that they have more authority, must know more or that their might be consequences if I'm not agreeable.  It's my belief that I'm not the first person to misunderstand their paperwork and rules and just because I did doesn't mean they get to extract money from me. Maybe it's time to produce paperwork that people readily understand. It's not my plan to be confrontational when I get there. At least not in a bullying way.  If I find myself being bullied, I have the truth. I haven't intentionally set out to cheat anyone. I've been on the other end of that as I told you. After doing the footwork to prepare to go there this morning and some prayer I'm ready to say what I need to say and leave the outcome to my higher power.   I wouldn't expect any less of myself today but to practice our principles.  I didn't tuck my tail and run during my divorce when I was a newcomer so no need to second guess my progress in recovering my self worth now. I understand that people and systems don't always make ethical decisions but I'll go and say my piece with the god of my understanding at my side.  Whatever the outcome, I'll be ok. At least, I can give myself credit for facing my fears and walking through them.  Your positive energy is appreciated this morning.  I'm so grateful we have this program and one another.  :) TT



-- Edited by tiredtonite on Thursday 30th of August 2012 08:26:40 AM

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Thanks everyone for your best wishes and encouragement.  I'm back now and feel I did a good job of saying what I needed to say. 

There was a point at which they intentionally tried to trip me up. She put a hypothetical situation in front of me and asked what I thought of it.  It was similiar to my own situation but shed an unfavorable light. I told her it was not my own situation.  I said however that I felt the person in the situation she proposed would be wrong.  I was very clear about what the difference was between my own case and the situation she presented.  The scenario she raised implied cheating, manipulation and lack of ethics. I did my best to stay monotoned and not react defensively. Inwardly, it angered me that she was stooping to those kind of tactics. I felt she was testing me. I remembered that I didn't have to take it personally because I know who I am. Likely, it was her job to do this. It occurred to me that she might continue to try to find ways to wear me down until I said something I had not intended to say.  They were recording me.  I think I did pretty good at this point, to take my personal power back. I literally told her that she and I could go back and forth but things would not change insofar as what I had to say because what I had to say was simple, straightforward and honest and that would not change.  I addressed both people there when I said it. I had already told them my side of things but I repeated again my understanding and the action I had taken which had led me to be in court with them this morning.

While it was still my turn, I decided to let them know me more. I told them the last time I had been in court was for a divorce and that this was uncomfortable for me but I felt it was important to come here in person and meet with them.  I told them I could have handled it by phone but I wanted to come here to let you see who I am and speak to you in person and make eye contact with you because I have nothing to hide I'm being honest with you about how I understood things and there was no ill intent. I just made an honest mistake.  I said it was a lot of money and I felt it was important to come in person because of that as well. I said I'm really sorry this happened.  I gave them a little personal background of my current circumstances but told them I was not telling them those things as "an excuse." I said that what I had stated to be my understanding of how I was to handle things was truly what I had understood to be the right action and I told them due to the reduction in what they felt I owed and since due to that reduction in the amount I had not exceeded the "allowable" amount that I had understood, I felt I didn't owe them any money back.  That was likely the statement that took the most courage for me to say to them but I said it anyway.

She said it wasn't her decision to make, only to make recommendations and that I would know some weeks from now.  I thanked them both and left. 

It was hard but it could have been worse.  It may not turn out as well as I would like because they don't make emotional decisions but tonight before my head hits the pillow and I inventory my day, I think I'll be able to say I did a good job with self respect and acting respectfully toward those involved.  Now it's back staying present and hoping for the best.  If there another hurdle to cross later, I can put together a workable plan with the help of my higher power.  For now, I've worked hard all week and plan to enjoy my holiday weekend. :)  TT



-- Edited by tiredtonite on Thursday 30th of August 2012 01:55:10 PM

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Dear TT

Good Luck and please continue to  remember you are not alone. 

 I will be holding positive thoughts for you.



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Thanks so much, hotrod. 



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((((((TT)))))))

Good Luck to You Today... You Show Such Courage, Regardless of How the Day Goes... Hold Your Head High! And Be Who you Know you are :)

In My Thoughts & Prayers...

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Thinking of you!!! HUGSSSS. Chin up girl!

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Sending you positive thoughts, love and support!

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Sending lots of love and support along with some extra prayers. Please send an update when you can!! Be thinking of you!!

Hugs P :)

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Best of luck, and let us know how it all works out....

Sending positive thoughts your way

T



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Good jOB  TT

It sounds as if you were clear, honest and said what you needed without engaging.  Good use of your alanon tools.

You have taken the action now we will Trust HP.



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Yes, good job TT. I hoped you would come back after your trial and tell us how you did.

You are inspiring. You applied what we learn here. You did your best. You thought clearly in the moment - that takes so much.

Enjoy the long weekend. Jill

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Woot woot :) You did a GREAT job!! Being in court IS intimidating and uncomfortable, you handled it like a seasoned pro!!

Hugs P :)

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Awesome job hun! You handled it amazingly! HUGS

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I feel better for taking the risk to go there this morning.  It felt like the right thing to do for me.  Thanks ((((everyone))))))



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