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New to this and trying to figure things out


Hi everyone,
 
It has been less than I week since my ABF had his last major incident and realized that he needed to get help getting sober.  He has attended AA for the first time in his life and has attended 2 meetings a day since the incident. I am so torn as to what to do. I know that I need to take care of myself and heal from what he has done, not just from this incident, but from previous incidents...I just don't know if I should heal alone or if we should heal together. Is there a point in his recovery that I can safely say that he is really serious about his sobriety and we can work on mending our relationship through the recovery process. That is my big question...how do I know that he is committed to staying sober forever and not just saying what he feels others want to hear in order for everyone who has distanced themselves to come back? Part of me wants to be by his side, as he has asked me to do, as he takes these steps and part of me wonders if I should distance myself until he gets a grasp on his sobriety. Would me being by his side hinder his recovery, or help? I want so much to believe that the last incident was truly his wake-up call and that he is committed to living a sober life.  No one can predict the future but I really just want to do what is best for both of us and take steps that will be most beneficial in helping him to remain sober.


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There is no guarantee that he will stay sober that is not for us to figure out. Being in a relationship with a non drinker doesn't mean it's going to last forever either, so trying to predict the unpredictable is kind of like trying to count grains of sand on the beach and think you will have an answer in this lifetime.

Going to alanon meetings will help you figure out what is best for you. It's a very personal choice to stay or to go and no one is going to tell you to do either. Whatever you do it needs to be in your own best interests and when you are ready to decide. You don't have to make any decisions today .. you only need to be in this 24 hours.

Hugs P :)

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I am glad you found MIP. I hope you are able to go to local Al-anon face to face meetings and take care of yourself. I am sending you love and support!

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Being by his side or not by his side will not be a crucial factor in his recovery. The Three C's are: You didn't Cause it, you can't Cure it, you can't Control it.  It would be great to think that we could be in there fighting this battle with them, but it's an inside job for them -- no one else can do it for them.  Trying too hard to do it for them (not saying that you're doing that) can take away from their own powers of decision and determination.  So the people who find the number of AA for their A, look up the location, drive them over there, remember their meeting times, remind them, etc.... that would be taking too much responsibility.  It has to be them doing their recovery.

As to when his recovery will be secure -- there is no single answer.  I'm sorry to say that the statistics show that most people who go into recovery do not achieve longterm sobriety.  Something like 70-80% do not achieve longterm sobriety.  I only say this because I wish someone had told me this long before they did.  I kept waiting for my A to turn the corner and be sober.  He was in and out of recovery for several years.  Then he just stayed out.  I kept thinking it was bound to "take" any time. I didn't realize that it didn't have to "take."  Now, there are so many alcoholics that even 20% of people seeking recovery getting sober is thousands or even millions of people. But just to say that the program isn't a guarantee -- his actions are the important thing.  A year of sobriety is a good thing.  However, as you can see from reading these boards, many people have ten or fifteen years of sobriety and then descend into alcoholism again.  That's why we say alcoholics are "in recovery" rather than "cured."  It will always be a risk with an alcoholic.  If he's working his program, on top of his life, and taking responsibility, it's a smaller risk. 

The best policy is probably always to watch what he does, not what he says.  "I'm going to..." is never as real as "I am..."  Meanwhile, what I most wish I'd done is this: I wish I hadn't waited until he stopped drinking to get my own serenity and live my own life joyfully.  I put things on hold until that magic day when he'd be recovered and sober.  For him that day didn't come.  Eventually I had to figure out how to achieve my own recovery anyway.  I wish I'd done that sooner!

Keep on taking good care of yourself!



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Welcome to MIP also...and you have been responded to by only three of the very knowledgeable and experienced family members.  I will not add anything other than to re-read their respondses often and then go to the white pages of your local telephone book and look for the hotline number for Al-Anon...call it very soon and find the places and times these women and yours truely get together to help ourselves and others who have been victims of the disease of alcoholism in your area.  God didn't put you in charge of this alcoholic...the 3Cs apply.  Your alcoholic and you are up against the most insideous disease on the face of the planet which outdates the life of Christ by thousands of years.  Keep coming back and lets us support your journey...We are powerless over your alcoholic also.

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There are no easy answers. Help comes from Alanon however you can get it - face to face meetings, reading the literature, getting a sponsor, and taking care of yourself. Keep the focus on you.

All the best,

Nancy

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There are no guarantees in recovery but regardless of what he does you too need to recover from the effects of someone elses drinking , please find meetings for yourself you need support and for me it is the best way to support the alcoholics efforts at sobriety , you in your program him in AA .. give our program a few months and see how you feel about your relationship , your not the reason he drank nor is it your job to see that he stays sober .  Louise



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I am going through what you described. I'm in the middle of it. I am already past the point where you seem to be, but not very far past it. I figure I could shed a little hope for you.

I asked myself those questions, and in tense moments, I still wonder if I'm doing the right thing. Long story short, I am in this because she and I have been through severe hell and supreme heaven in this relationship. "For good and bad, thick and thin". Truly this is the highest form of love that two people can have in real non-fairytale life. She is not getting sober for me. She tried that already and ended up resenting me until I stopped trying to control her recovery. Al-anon took a little bit to soak into my thinking and show me, objectively, what I was doing to enable.

I asked myself, when she went into treatment *again* if I should help her or distance myself. I love her. I am here because I know we have potential. But there is no guarantee. It is up to her to recover in her own way and the same goes for me. Our house rule is that we don't discuss recovery every single day. I don't wanna hear how many times she thinks about drinking, and I don't share all my control freak moments as I learn to let go.

Here is what we DO do. I go with her once a week to family night at her outpatient treatment center, and an occasional AA meeting. But not all of them. And she goes to Al-anon here and there. We see what each other are going through passively this way, but we do not "help" each other. If I NEED to talk, she is there and vice versa, but there are no more forced conversations. One step, one day. Projecting into the future and putting pressure on an outcome is a sure fire way to put a negative spin on your lives. Ask yourself if your love is strong enough and do you have the open mind and heart that it takes to accept the al-anon concept. These two things are all you need to start your trip to recovery.

I hope this helps somewhat. Good luck and keep coming back.

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It's hard to say that he will never relapse, You have to do what you feel is right for you. I am going through the same situation at the moment, You just have to stay positive

I found myself asking all those questions when he had his last incident, Take it one day at a time. Talking and expressing your feelings about the sitation is the best thing for you to do. Also maybe going to some local Al-Anon meetings in your area.

You cant not control when he wants to stop drinking, He has to do that on his own. He has made the first step by wanting the help and going to AA meetings.

I do hope that this forum can help you & wish you and your partner the best of luck.

Take care & please do come back

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Thank you to everyone for all of the wonderful feedback and advice that you have shared. This forum has been such a great resource to me and I will definitely keep coming back for support and, also, to support others. As was previously recommended, I have also purchased the book "Getting Them Sober" (Volume 1) and this has a lot of great information.Although I am hopeful, I do realize that there is no guarantee that he will stay sober and that this is something that he needs to do on his own.

Littlehawk - you mention that you " have been through severe hell and supreme heaven in this relationship" and I can certainly relate to that. When he is sober, our relationship is amazing. As you did in your relationship, I have made the decision to stay with him right now because I love him and I also see the great potential.

Mattie - I like what you said..."The best policy is probably always to watch what he does, not what he says. 'I'm going to...' is never as real as 'I am...'". That is great advice.

At this point, he and I are both taking things one day at a time and I will keep on repeating those Three C's to myself.

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