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Just wondering if there is somewhere that I can go to learn about what to expect during the first few days of my AHs recovery. So far, the words that come to mind are:
withdrawn
angry
depressed
beaten
Are these normal? He hasn't started a treatment program yet (or gone to any meetings). He just stopped drinking because I told him I thought it was a problem and he went to a counselor at my suggestion (Serenity Lane) and he agreed.
I don't think he's truly in a recovery mindset yet, but I don't know how to help. Do I ignore his behavior? Do I commisserate? Do I confront it and tell him that we all have crap we have to deal with and to pull up his big boy britches? Do I ask him if he's mad at me (which is what it feels like)? Do I push the idea that he should go to a meeting?
Oh, yes, they are very normal. My AH is hiding right now. For 2 hours he was in his office, now he's laying on the bed in the dark watching TV alone. He says nothing is wrong but I know he has a pre trial conference tomorrow for his DUI and he has told me that he doesn't want me involved. So, I'm guessing that he's sulking and depressed dealing with this alone. If only he had found AA. My AH is also not in a recovery mindset. I would not focus on his actions, I would just give him his space and try not to take it personal(which is what we co-dependents do). I wouldn't push any ideas on him. He needs to come to those solutions on his own. I would try to find an Al Anon meeting for you and do some reading for yourself. Write down your thoughts and keep a journal of how you feel. Ask your Higher Power for guidance and pray for your spouse. These things will take up enough of your time so that you take the focus off of him and put it on yourself. Sending you lots of support tonight!
Sending you positive thoughts and a few cyber hugs, too! Believe me, I'm sitting here wanting to engage him so bad: ask him why he's being anti-social from us? Why is he hiding in the bedroom watching the same TV show as we are, the one we always watch as a family? Is he worried about something? Was it something I said?
See, you are NOT ALONE! I've just got a little bit longer in Al Anon than you do(only 2.5 months, LOL) but it's enough to tell me that I need to worry about me and that I need to let him keep his side of the street clean. So, I'll sit out here and wait for him to be ready to talk, that may happen tomorrow AM or it may happen NEVER. I give it to my HP and let Him take care of it all!
He slept in until almost 11. I was up at 8 with the kids.
He went straight from his bed to his computer (we don't have tv, just netflix) and put on his headphones.
I spent the day doing dishes, laundry, making meals, cleaning. He spent the ENTIRE day watching netflix.
A couple of times, I made remarks to the kids like "I'm the only one working around here today, so you will have to wait." I know, snarky. But jeez...I'd like to sit around all day too.
I feel like I'm supposed to just let him get away with ignoring any and all responsibilities because somehow it's my fault that he's in a bad way. But really, it's not. He's just sulking because I asked him to face it.
And with that said, I feel like cr@p because I have to be the responsible one and I don't want to be. I want a break too!
Remember that they have very little idea of how to live life as a sober person. Plus they're dealing with all the storms going on inside their heads. AA and other recovery programs give them tools and a structure to deal with all that, but trying to do it on their own ... well, it's like trying to figure out how to build a house when you've got a hammer, a saw, and a forest. No wonder they get cranky. It's a big job when you're trying to do it without any help.
The way I see it, we can detach with love, and it helps not to expect anything that is unrealistic to expect. That said, giving them a free pass to be perpetually moody and unhelpful is not actually such a good thing. So we have to figure out what our boundaries are. That's where our own recovery comes in. Do you have a meeting and a sponsor?
And with that said, I feel like cr@p because I have to be the responsible one and I don't want to be.
It's not your fault he feels bad and its not your job to make him feel better or to pick up his slack.
I'm sure that more than one person here is going to suggest going to real live Al-Anon meetings can help you cope with how all this effects you.
If he actually decides he's had enough and goes for help is something he'll have to figure out for himself. There's plenty of help for him if he wants it.
So glad you found the message board hicktownmom! I wish I could offer you an easy answer to your problems, but the fact is there isn't any, other than Al-anon. The first few days of recovery are tough, no doubt. I personally haven't gone through it with a husband, wasn't lucky enough for that! My alcoholic husbands (yes, there were more than one) never chose to get help for themselves. Two never quit drinking (to my knowledge) and a third quit cold turkey because I asked him to, or I wouldn't marry him. Boy who did I think I was God? Well, it backfired and he might of never drank again, but he SURE did resent me for it!
The only experience I have with someone coming out of a treatment program was a boss I had for 5 years. I was a lab tech and he a professor. Once again I tried to "control" things and after asking to talk to the department at their weekly meeting (while another prof. covered for him, because he had to leave work early to go drink), and the Dean of the Department (the alcoholic was the chairman of his individual department, so the only way to go was up), a few of his students and an AA individual who did interventions. An intervention was arranged. I felt pretty proud of myself. The Dean of the department was there, as was his prof. friend that enabled him, his wife, a former student, myself and the AA member turned counselor.
He decided to go into treatment. I was estatic! Now he would become bareable to work for again! (I was new to al-anon at the time.) And I would be his Savior! Well, that isn't exactly how it played out. He stayed in treatment for the alotted time and he stayed sober (because he had to or lose his job). But become bareable to work for again? NOT.
The following year was one of the hardest for me (I worked for the man for 5 years.) He berated me in front of students (something he had never done under the influence of the alcohol). He pushed my harder than ever before, and he played mind games to the extreme. But I perservered. I held out a year worked my program and eventually got excepted to graduate school at a major university and transfered out.
But here's the good news...
Because I worked my program (religiously) and continued to go to f2f meetings (this was before I had internet) weekly and sometimes 2-3 times a week, whatever it took to keep a positive attitude in all this. He stayed sober. He is sober today. He and his wife are still friends of mine. I do not enable him anymore today, but I am his friend. I am not saying all recovery stories turn out this way, but this one did, and I'm so glad. And it had nothing to do with me... other than I worked my program, and turned the rest over to the God of my understanding.
Just take it One Day at a Time HTM, and you'll be fine!
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For some As, alcohol has been their best friend, their confidante...alcohol WORKS...to get happy, to soothe, to fend off withdrawal, to numb out...
Giving up / losing a "friend" like this...even if that friend is KILLING you...is still a huge loss for As. For many As..alcohol is associated with almost every activity in their lives.....Its hard to figure out how to live without it....it's a big hill to climb.
He is not in recovery. He is only stopping one of the symptoms of being an addict, stopped using the drug.
It's called white knuckling. He is fighting something almost impossible to fight and really get anywhere with out skills and support.
I can only use this experience. I had pms very bad in the long ago past. I felt so mean and icky. Made me feel guilt becuz i felt i made everyone miserable around me.
I did not want my thing to upset anyone else. It was my business.
The A is no different. His disease, his behavior is none of our business. What is our business is learning skills to live with it if we choose to.
We learn how to make our lives as good as we can living with an A by going to Al Anon meetings, coming here, reading literature, focusing on our own lives.
His stuff is that, his.
I am so glad you are here. hugs,debilyn
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