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Post Info TOPIC: Separating Fact from emotion and removing expectations from the dynamics


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Separating Fact from emotion and removing expectations from the dynamics


This has been a truly challenging year for me.  I wish I had discovered this "concept" sooner.  I was always the drama queen. Caught up in the emotion and drama of the situation because we were sooo not allowed to have drama or feel emotions when we were kids.  As my aunt stated we were the "sit down and shut up gang".  We were always expected to be quiet in public - not talk - not act like kids and when we were home basically just entertain ourselves.  I have few memories of my mom really ever playing with me - she did read to us but that was not very often.  We just "were".

So, as I got older I got caught up in the drama of "love"...  I became the hopeless romantic because there was emotion - I was allowed to "feel" whether it was good or bad feelings there was emotion!  I didn't know what was healthy emotion and what wasn't.  I still don't, obviously but I"m working on it.

It's holiday time coming up.  Here in the U.S. - Thanksgiving is next week.  My spouse reminded me "yet another Thanksgiving of being unsettled - not having an "answer" to our future... remember our 30 day trial is up Saturday".........  OK, I'm trying to look at the FACTS.... not get caught up in the EMOTION.  It is very hard to separate the two.

There is always so much expectation of what a "good" holiday is supposed to look like.  I'm not really sure I know what one of those are.  I'm trying to NOT have any expectation around that and be ok with it.  But it is so difficult when you see commercials with big family get togethers and my daughter wanting a big happy family holiday etc.

Honestly, I'd be happy curled up with a good book that day.  Spending time with my daughter - and even my husband but he has such the expectation of what it should be.

I'm praying to my higher power to help me with this.  Keep me focused.  What do I need to take care of me and to take care of my daughter.

 



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Tv had been the biggest downfall of family holiday expectations. If it wasn't leave it to beaver and reality crashed in about uncle bob was wearing the lamp shade a tremendous about of shame and guilt came on with in the adults how had they failed everyone else except then had a normal family. My parents were completely disconnect from me I was the living doll expected to perform and be perfect and be content to be placed on a shelf and wait for my next call. That is neither here not there and my choices of who I spend holidays with or not are mine to make. Part of my trip is I haven't seen my mon in 3 years that is not normal to me it is in my relationship with my mom. Feelings aren't facts they are real and should be processed. Your choices are yours I encourage you to do what is in your best interest. Give it to your hp and see what happens. Thanksgiving is still way to far off to start worrying now and worrying isn't going to move a rock nor is it worth your serenity of your present moment of today. Hugs and in support, p ;)

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wow!  Well, I think your last sentence there says it all!  That is the magic question I have used daily (as many times a day as necessary) - what can I do to allow me to feel better, about myself or my situation?  And then do that thing - if you need a quiet holiday or a non-holiday - my mom would call them, spiritual holidays- the holidays where we decided to take that mental health day (break).  Some ppl go out to the movies every thanksgiving or christmas day- you could choose to volunteer at a soup kitchen and spend the day serving others who dont have homes or go for a walk and pick up pine cones all day - it is YOUr life, YOUr holidays, they are YOUr memories ~ so please do what YOU want and need to feel connected to your daughter and the HP/god.

You could start a tradition that each thanksgiving you create a new thing to do that is different from every other year.  We always did sit around together (mom and I and whoever else was in our lives at the time) and express what we were personally grateful for and what we love and value at the time.  Create a tradition that you do spend some quiet hours with your daughter, reading to her or showing her something that you looked forward to and enjoyed as a kid or right now.

When my mom said, "a spiritual holiday" (not that it would happen that frequently) but I knew it meant we would put an emphasis on what we had spiritually and it was code to not be such a huge "consumer."  Maybe we saw friends, took a long drive and talked.  Nothing beats that quality/intimate time -kids want you- not what you give them, they want intimate and real interactions with their parents.  No kid that grows up ever says - u didnt give me enough stuff (unless they are very selfish/superficial) - they want time and your love.

 

Releasing expectations was a very difficult task - but I connected that every time I did have an expectation I got hurt.  I finally learned that releasing expectations is another way to let go of attempting to control - control the day, control everyone's happiness, control the conversation, control control control.  We can only control and change us.  We are role models to our children.  I we run around like a chicken with its head cut off and are a spazz all day trying to live up to other's expectations of a perfect holiday and if the centerpiece and everything else is not picture perfect - my family wont love me and I will have ruined the holiday bc I take the blame --- then that is exactly what you teach your children to do and be like as an adult.

So allow your husband (and anyone else) to have their feelings of expectations and "perfectionistic" ideals (bc god only knows if it doest "appear" perfect on the outside - then we are not "perfect" and cant enjoy a meal as a family together- is all hooey and hogwash - a lie from our collective disease.  (Im acoa and perfection is an acoa thing/issue- we dont care if we feeel great - it only matters that things on the surface "appear" perfect so that we can lie to ourselves telling us we are okay bc of what we do and have on the outside).  What matters is if you do feel okay and can cope and be content with what you have, this is acceptance and reality.  Striving for an illusion of perfection will always leave humans feeling less that, bc we judge ourselves when we arent that cookie cutter reality.  Dont be afraid of owning your truth, that way if you want to change it, you can.

 

 

What I do love and remember the most about my mom and the holidays - she grew up poor, so she was creative and would create a treasure out of recycled things - like shopping at goodwill for serving trays or decorations.  Nowadays it is the $1 for cute little decorations or odds and ends.  (I have bought all $1 store items for the xmas tree- really garrish looking glittery items that look awesome on the tree!)  Or gettting remnants at a fabric store as a table runner or whatever.

She always put the music up real loud and she would sing while she cooked and chopped, we would decide together what we were going to cook.  It was fun helping her make the meal and deocrate things and give lil pressies to the dogs, as a joyful part of the celebration.  (She raised me vegetarian so to some ppl- no turkey meant the day was "ruined."  To us a day we celebrated the life of animals was a gorgeous day in our lives and it had meaning.

We also watched (first videos, now dvds) of our favorite holiday movies:  some include Babe (which she also puts on at xmas), old favs like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid, mister mom, Chicago, Rocky Horror Picture show (which we liked to watch for any holiday- not for everybody!), Ray and at xmas- snoopy cartoons, old black and whites like its a wonderful life and ben hur (every year).

Create a day that has meaning for YOU and honor your feelings, needs -- allow others to be miserable and judge the day if that is what they want to do.  Detach with loving compassion and own YOUr reality, just for today!  Bc it is about you, your life, your memories and your child's.

Doing your own unorthodox thing, even if it is not socially popular -- gives you integrity in your life and you are worth it.  Keep practicing no expectations and no judgment - it is the road to emowering self liberation!  Make your celebration about you and own it!  It can be whatever you want it to be!  May you have a day of peaceful resolve about whatever you choose to do.



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I think there are marathon meetings for alcoholics around the holidays for a reason.  It is a huge trigger for me.  People are drinking, celebrating, being around family members for extended periods of time.  All huge triggers to be around for an alcoholic.

I labored long and hard with the now ex A around holidays.  I slipped and slided all the time.  I made it a huge issue for me.  When I left him it was still a huge issue.  I found it very very hard to let go. 

In therapy I made it a huge issue too because of course therapists shut down and go to their families and I never felt I had one.

For me the holidays were a huge indicator of how I had no one and I was loved by no one.  The ex A's behavior around the holidays reinforced that.  The issue was he always behaved like that for the holidays whether I was there or not.  I couldnt' see that. The holidays for him were an orgy of drinking, using and crashing.  I took it all very very personally.

The ex A had plenty of ultimatums and in some ways he enjoyed the drama I so readily provided him. He enjoyed that I was devastated, competed for his time and craved his attention.  He loved being at the center of it.

When I detached and stopped making it all about him I could have some energy.  One year his mother even came to stay after the holidays and I was completely non reactionary.  I think he was absolutely shocked.

The more energy I gave to the reactions the more devastated I felt.  Of course not reacting, being in denial was worse. What worked was to choose where I spent my energy.  I could not change his family dynamic (although I certainly tried) The only person I could change was me and I stopped fighting it.  I also stopped giving every second of the day to his alcoholism.

This board saved me over many a holiday. Just sitting on line with others who were opting out helped.  There will be someone on line here at whatever time you need over the holidays they are a hard time for everyone.

maresie.



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Great post and ESH! Thanks All! Sending you love and support!


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