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Since I started going to Al-anon face to face meetings almost a year ago, I have experienced the death of a few relationships. I have outgrown some of these and some people didn't want to deal with my self righteousness, I had early in my program (I wanted to force feed Al-anon to everyone dear to me). It is still something I deal with wanting to save the world!
Fastforward several months and I see my growth and I have humbled my atitudes towards the thinking I can answer everyone else's problems, for the most part, haha.
I am thankful for everyone that has been a friend to me, they have all brought different benefits to my life. I no longer feel bad for the people I choose not to spend time with, because as I have gotten stronger I will no longer be around unacceptable behavior or people who can't treat me with the love and respect I deserve. I know I am growing and changing and that is very uncomfortable for some people.
My ex-in-laws have taken this the hardest. I am struggling to keep them in my kids lives, even though they are sick maybe worse than there A son. I do try and I have been called a drama queen by my father-in-law recently and been put down at Church by my Mother-in-law recently. I haven't spent any time with them on purpose for a long time, since my MIL chewed me a new one and balmed me for everything and threatened to take my kids away.They think they know me, but they don't and I am making changes that they don't want to see.
I am not letting anyone hold me back no matter how much I love them or how much they loved me. I do grieve over this and over there lovely son who I couldn't live with any longer and divorced. We were all a very tight close knit family, which I LOVED, being from a different State with such a obviously dysfunctional family I ran away from.
And now I realize I just dove into another one that hid their stuff so much better and with the help of denial all went very slowly downhill over 15 years until I was the one too blow the whistle and now I am the bad guy. I live in a small town and it is where they have all lived for generations. I have some great friends and support, but talk about not being able to get away. It has been good and has made me face myself, but also them and they still want to place blame and play the game.
It has been a hard last week with them and I feel like everytime I let my MIL know about an event for my 13 year old it is detrimental to me and even my 13 year old has pulled back on her own from her grandma and her dad and I am trying to tell her they are family and all we have. I am unsure what to do with the situation. I don't want to steer her any one way, she knows how I feel, but also knows my family also runs rampant with dysfunction, but are more honest and out there about it. Any ESH for me would be delightful. Sometimes living in a small town makes you feel like you are under a telescope more than a magnifying glass. I want to scream pick up a mirror people!!!! Sorry so long, i am glad I have a meeting to go to in an hour. However some people in my meeting know and respect the upstanding people of which I have wrote about and it makes it a little difficult.
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" Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional."
"Serenity is when your body and mind are in the same place."
You do sound like you have come a long ways in dealing with a situation that would not be easy no matter how you would slice it. Sometimes in dealing with people that I feel are full of crap or wrong...I try and remember I am only seeing them in a certain context which is usually driven by their fears. To other people, your in-laws probably are good and upstanding. They are able to present themselves without all the BS they do with you because the fears of losing control of their son and grandkids and you are not there in those relationships. So...in that aspect, I can accept others like or see redeeming qualities in people I do not like. They get to see a better side of that person and I guess that's okay.
You have a wise, intuitive daughter. Just because these people are family does not mean they are good for her.
She seems to see how toxic they are. We have all kinds of family. My friends family was mine. Teaches, couselors, staff at the schools. Some kids have a 4 H family.
I would be helping her find what she is interested in and encourage that. Its amazing what that can do to ones life.
My way was and is to allow them the respect to make their own choices based on their own feelings.
I has to be very hard for you!Myself the inlaws were horrible to me. I tried so hard. But finally let them have it. They were so mean to me, saying i was not family, but I stayed with my bil a month thru lots of hardship as he was dieing in the hospital. Not ONE of them came to see him,not one.
dysfunction is correct. I had NO reason to love them or accept them.
Good for you to be looking at this wisely. hugs,debilyn
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We live in a smallish town as well not as small as what you are describing however small enough that it gets a little weird I've called it incestuous on some levels.
I really just try and respect my kids feelings about things. I don't push if they want to go they can however if not they don't have to. I choose not to deal with my AH's family at least on my FIL's side and his mother. I've seen what they do to people as far as using them and throwing them away and I have better things and people to invest that kind of time in. I try and keep my opinions to myself about the situation and some days are easier than others.
I tend to go with the What other people think of me is none of my business thought process. It just is what it is .. I don't wish anyone ill I just choose my friends and maybe being adopted I just have an ingrained sense that I can also choose those I think of as family. These people I do not think of as family. They are my AH's family and even he has chosen to back away from them after a couple of incidents. They are not people I would go out of my way to be more than just extremely casual acquaintances. I don't feel like they would go out of their way to pick up the phone and call.
Anyway, you are working a great program with great awareness and it really goes back to is it in my best interests to do .. fill in the blank. I really do not believe that goes wrong in that sense.
Hugs p :)
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Deb~I have made my own little family with a friend of mine that is also 33 and her sister is like my sister and her brothers are like my brothers and her Mom even calls me the blonde daughter. Her dad has passed and I helped them through a couple years with one of my jobs being a home health care/hospice nurse. I have adopted my own little family that does support me and loves me right where I am at. I rely on these people more than my blood family on purpose. My 13 year old has so many outlets soccer, basketball, youth group, guitar lessons and plays with a band and more, she is very healthy and active and pulls straight A's and is a great older sister and babysits for me regularly and helps around the house. She has Al-ateen books she reads and has a great head on her shoulders.
I was just mentally looking forward to moving further away from the exAH and his parents and this town of 700 people with 4 bars and most people looking in other's backyards. I guess it will help keep me growing and cleaning my own backyard and raising my kids knowing that you can grow no matter what the circumstances are if you so choose. I don't know what the future holds and I will conitinue living in the moment that isn't that bad and be hopeful for my future!
-- Edited by Breakingfree on Wednesday 9th of November 2011 04:34:35 PM
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" Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional."
"Serenity is when your body and mind are in the same place."
I find children are resilient little creatures and they have to be .. look what we survived and are here talk about it, ha ha .. if I ever took my act on the road I know what I would be talking about .. lol. I fully appreciate what you are saying about not wanting to uproot the kids and move them. We can move anywhere in town and even out of town, the one constant is their school and for me that is soooo important. It's the reason I was insistent even though it's a financial crunch and I could do other things with the monthly tuition money, they have a fantastic support system.
Maybe you will move and if it does they are going to be ok just like you will be as well. I hope that doesn't sound advicish that's not where I am coming from. I just want you to know as long as you are happy the kids are going to be happy. It's a great by product of recovery and life in general. Now as I rephrase that's what I have found in me coming to recovery. The kids have relaxed because I have, no one is walking around on eggshells anymore and that's been the nicest change.
The subject of letting go and letting our children grow up came up in passing and my response was I have my eyes shut at times thinking please please please don't do what I did do something better and make better choices. They are going to do what they are going to do and all I can do is love them where they are at.
UGH on the church deal, I do understand how hard that is having everything intertwined in that way. I ran into family at the church I go to my Tuesday meeting and there I sat hiding in the car .. LOL .. I felt like a DORK however I was not going to get out and even have the question come up why I was there.
Hugs p :)
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Stepping onto a brand-new path is difficult, but not more difficult than remaining in a situation, which is not nurturing to the whole woman.- Maya Angelo
The ex A's family was a huge issue for me when I was in relationship with him. They took priority on the holidays. Then his mother upped and married someone and moved 2 states away.
I've come to have compassion for her and an understanding why she was so prickly, mean and controlling. After all she had two Alcoholic and addicted sons. There were many indications she was a functional alcoholic as she always insisted on having alcohol at family gatherings even though it was a huge issue for her sons. I used to be puzzled, resentful and alarmed by her behavior. Now I see it as someone dealing with alcoholics all her life without a program. That was all she could come up with.
Where my mistake were was having some expectation of her. I had the same attitude towards her I had towards the alcoholic. Why are these people doing this to me?
Getting them Sober (the book) and this forum as well as having a sponsor has helped me a great deal. It certainly is hard to be around alcoholics but why do we expect them to be cordial, kind and welcoming is a mystery to me. I set myself up time and time again.
Of course now I have nothing whatsoever to do with the A, his mother or any of his friends I have the space to be compassionate, wise and clear. When I was dealing with them 24/7 it was another matter.