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Working on boundaries.... in all my affairs....


Some of you may remember I have a business in photography.  I started this business on my own, met a person I connected with, because our son's were friends, saw she did photography, had a good eye and so I asked if she wanted to do it with me.  It was all very innocent.  I thought we would work great together, her being a little more business minded than me and me being a little better on working a camera, we would balance each other out.  Long story short...over the course of the last few years, I have realized my part in things and how I allowed her to slowly but surely take over.  I tried to talk with her to make my case known, but she would always argue me out of it.  She was better with words in that way and so I would back down and let the take over happen.  Recently at weddings, she has been the lead.  Even though her photos don't turn out great, she has this voice and words that people follow.  I shrank more and more and have kind of become just her helper.  Its because I allowed it and didn't act with more resolve on this take over.  She calls me "Miss _____" (my name in the blank and I hate it!).  I asked her yesterday to not call me that any more because I felt that I just didn't like it.  She emailed me back saying she calls everyone "Miss ___" or ma'am.  Ok yes, she does, but I replied that I do not like it and would rather she didn't, especially at weddings.  She never responded back.  I set a boundary and it seems that I feel guilty afterwards, but good as well, since I felt that I really didn't want to be called that.  Today she still has not contacted me at all.  I had to tell her two things related to the business and she didn't respond.  Maybe she is busy. 

What I was thinking though was how I need to look out for my best interest and if I don't like what someone calls me, that putting that boundary out there, especially with a business partner and friend, shouldn't make me feel bad.  Working on boundaries in small ways, its teaching me how to do it for the bigger things.  Like how I have allowed people to treat me, talk to me, what they call me... all things I used to do to keep friends and have some small bit of approval.  My fiance even supported me on this and said "You set a good boundary with her on this, good for you" and I still felt guilty.  Anyway, I am glad I did it, but at the same time I am worried she is mad at me.  I am making some progress I guess :)  LOL

 



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I'm so glad you posted this! I'm also working on boundaries in all my affairs today, and what you said hit home!

I'm having issues with my sister and other family members running up and rubbing my tummy. I'm pregnant and my family (of origin) members, most of which lacks all semblance of personal boundaries, seem to not even think about whether I want to be touched. Nobody asks permission or anything. As a matter of fact, I DON'T want to be touched. My sister has done it a lot of times, and I'm sooo uncomfortable and yet I'm really not sure what to say. I know that I'm the adult and I'm in charge of myself and my own comfort and safety. I need to say something, but I've been more concerned about not hurting her feelings than I have about protecting my personal space. It's occurring to me today that her feelings are HERS. I can put my feelings out there and she can decide how she feels. It's not up to me to make sure those feelings are happy. I don't enjoy having people invade my personal physical boundaries - even family members. I do not need to suffer through being uncomfortable and irritable to protect anyone's feelings. I won't be unnecessarily rude or mean, but I can certainly communicate my needs like an adult instead of waiting for her to notice by my body language (cringing, pulling back, odd facial expression, etc.) that I do not want to be touched. Right?

This is good stuff - thanks fr putting it out there. I NEEDED it today! I'm going to follow your example and make my discomfort known!

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Hugs,

You did a great job!! It's so hard to break out of old roles and find the healthier ones that make us uncomfortable at first and yet are in our own best interests!! You rock!!

Hugs P :)

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White Rabbit:  Wow, I like that, I don't have to suffer through being uncomfortable with what she calls me to protect her feelings... Well thanks for this response, I like that. It makes me realize I don't have to make sure someone else feels happy... Her feelings are HERS... like it, love it! :) Thanks! Hope you do well with your boundary work too!

Pushka:  Thanks :)  In so many ways!



-- Edited by youfoundme on Tuesday 11th of October 2011 02:59:34 PM

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I'm sorry you're in this difficult situation.  I've heard a number of stories of business partnerships that went wrong, and it's stressful.

I'm thinking about your asking her not to call you "Miss ____."  The way I understand it, that isn't a boundary exactly.  (Of course you have the right to ask her, that's certain.)  A boundary is when we decide that if so-and-so happens, we'll have to respond and protect ourselves by doing [whatever].  For instance, if our partner drinks excessively every time we go out to dinner with the family, we can ask him not to drink.  But that's not setting the boundary, that's a request.  (And/or it's trying to control him.)  But if we say, either to our partner or ourselves, "If there's any more excessive drinking next time we go out to eat with my family, I won't be able to invite you any more" -- that's a boundary.  A boundary, as I understand it, includes something that will change if a circumstance continues.  It's hard to say what a boundary would be in this instance -- calling you "Miss ______."  But the way I understand it, the boundary would be a change that you would make to keep yourself safe from the consequences of the action.

In this instance, it seems as if both people have a set idea of what they want to happen, and those ideas conflict.  She maintains she has a right to call you what she wants, and you maintain that you have a right to establish what you are called.  Obviously for animosity not to develop, one of you would have to be more flexible.  I imagine both people are saying, "She should be the one to be more flexible."  My hunch would be that this is the tip of the iceberg of some disagreements or a mismatch in style that's going on.  Because by itself it seems a little adjustment for either person to make.  So digging one's heels in about it suggests that it's really the face of a larger problem and probably some resentments that have cropped up along the way. Maybe it's easier to be confrontational about this than about some larger issues?  Of course I don't know the whole story, so that's just a guess.

I am also remembering the Al-Anon saying that "Expectations are premeditated resentments."  We can ask someone for something, but expecting that they will do it is one of those premeditated resentments, wouldn't that be true?

Life gives us so many chances to practice the tools of recovery.  I hope this becomes clearer.  Take good care of yourself!



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Mattie, yes this is something that is small in the midst of the larger picture of how she and I disagree on so many things and I am working up to being able to have the resolve to say "I feel we need to not work together anymore." Yes the tip of the iceberg as you said here. To me it is a small boundary, because I allowed her to call me something that I didn't like and now I am saying I would like it if she just called me my name in front of clients and not the condesending name "Miss _____". After all is said and done, I will stop working with her in this business and that will happen when I have worked my self up to it and am ready. Thanks for your take on it. I am trying....

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I like this thread because it applies to my relationships also.  I'll never get it perfect and I remember also feeling guilt about asking for what I wanted, how I wanted it and discovering that it wasn't soooo much guilt I was feeling but fear.  I was afraid of how they would feel about me standing for myself and what they would do in return.  Since I have this fear base with a "what if" curiosity and only rely on my dysfunctional thinking to come up with the answer, I do myself in pretty good and pretty fast.  Actually I have value and worth and I can stand up for those all the time I want. 

You're growing good YFM...keep working it.   ((((hugs)))) smile



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Hmmm, my name is one that a lot of people automatically add ie to the end making it sound like I belong in a movie about a redheaded child.... I don't like it, it is not my name and most people know that I don't tolerate it from most of the people I know. Most of the time I am able to handle it with humor rather than rancor (hmm, is that the right word?) I have one friend named Harry and every time he calls me Annie, I call him Doug. He says, that's not my name and I say, well, Annie isn't my name...... Point being that I try hard to use humor to correct people. One guy though, I know it is going to come to a more serious discussion because he thinks its ok; its not. Annie is not my name, period and I deserve to be treated with respect because I treat him with respect (even though I don't like him).

I've heard your frustration about this person in prior posts and I agree that the name issue is a tip of the iceberg thing; my first instinct was to suggest calling her Miss ____ back, see how she likes it. And, you asked her to respect your wishes, restated your request again and now you get the silent treatment.... she's being sorta manipulative isn't she, like an A I know....

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Ihave two friends that put Miss in front of names.  They do it to everyone.  So I am Miss Linda.. my friends are Miss Gillian etc... she does it to everyone.

I have no idea why.  I don't really like it either but I accept that manner in which it is done, and that it is just her way.  I do not call her Miss Crissy .....  If I did, she probably wouldn't mind.

Anyway, I guess what I am saying is that I agree with Mattie.  This appears to be a symptom.  I would ad to it.  'pick your argument'.  Are you chosing to discuss this name issue as a matter in itself because it is easier to address than the real issue?  Just a thought.  Or will you use it later as part of the 'ammunition' for the breakup of the business partnership?

I agree if you are uncomfortable with it, then say something by all means... just think about motives on a deeper level.  Hope I have not overstepped the mark here, but I know if it were me, that is what I would have to think about.



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