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Hi everyone:)

My husband has been sober almost 4 months, went the detox then rehab, then  back to detox and rehab, and now he lives in a sober living home, got a job, supports himself and does all he can to help me out (coming over here and cutting the grass, giving me money every payday, just helping out).

We see eachother about once a week, meet for coffee or go to the dog park, we chat almost every night on the phone for a few minutes, or text..

I feel like I've been keeping him at at arms length... to a) focus on myself and be or prove to myself that I'm independant, and b) fear. Fear that he'll relapse and, if he does, I won't be so hurt since I didn't allow him back in.. hope that makes sense.

I'm content with how things are... sure I miss the person I fell in love with but I'm glad he's doing what he needs to do and that so am I. It gets easier.

Anyway, I was out of town all week for work, I arrived home on Friday and AH and I decided he would take a weekend pass and hang out at home with me Saturday and Sunday.

I was a little anxious about this, how it would feel, would it be weird, would we both turn crazy again...

It went really well. We spend some great quality time together, did yard work, watched movies...basically it felt like we were a happy married couple all weekend. It was nice, really nice.

AH got mildly cranky a few times cause he was hungry or tired... he caught himself and apologized.

There was another time when he wasn't being clear on what he wanted to do... I became mildly frustrated with his indirectness and vagueness, he again recognized this, apologized, and then was direct and clear.

I could give a few more examples but basically what I'm getting at is that I was amazed at how unselfish, caring, and helpfull he was all weekend, and impressed with how he recognized stuff and owned it and apologized...then even brought it up later to talk about and apologize again. (I know this was only 2 days and not actually living together all the time and that may very well turn out to be different....)

I'm confused cause I hear all the stories of A's in early recovery being selfish ect.. and I just did not see that at all. In fact, I think he was almost trying too hard to impress me at the expense of himself, not overly or in a crazy way like before..but a little. Like he was really hungry but wouldn't leave the gardening duties to go eat something...until he was cranky and just had to go eat.

Just curious if anyone has any similar experience with this?

Also, I'm scared cause I feel like I kinda fell a little more in love with him this weekend... and although I like the feeling, I'm scared and don't want to get caught up in it in case....

 I just spent time with the man I fell in love with, and he's such an amazing person, and I loved it, but it scares the crap outta me at the same time.

 



-- Edited by danielle0516 on Monday 6th of June 2011 12:28:55 AM

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Yup, in my "other program" (AA) we see that all the time, we call that "getting Sober and working The program"

What's REALLY beautiful is when BOTH partners work a program of recovery (their own) and we get to do that stuff together, own our stuff in the middle of it, recognize and stop behaviors as they are happening, and watch old behaviors and patterns slip away

I got into a relationship with a recovering alcoholic who had 15 years of sobriety and it was like slipping into an old blanket, easy and comfortable, she taught me TONS, some years later I got to get in a relationship with someone who sought out recovery after our relationship crashed and burned in Dante's Inferno, we got back together maybe a year later for a few months, we still weren't ready, then tried again 6 months after that, and that relationship was more work, but ultimately more rewarding in a lot of ways, just tonight we walked through a situation effortlessly with love that left us closer then ever when in the past it would have been at least a 3 week fight if not a break up, she has learned to communicate her feelings, to have ownership of her actions and listen to if I have a negative emotion without taking it on as a "slight" or like "she did something wrong", it boiled down to me saying "I miss you and I love you" because we haven't seen each other too much lately, it's been circumsatantial and she hasn't been feeling well emotionally or physically, and she was able to hear me say "I am sad because I miss you" and not hear "you are wrong and bad because you aren't at my beck and call" you know?

So yes it's possible, and even probable, but the one thing I try to remember, after being in a relationship or two where only -one- partner was actually making all the effort to recover, we are always growing as a couple, my actions dictate which direction we are growing, together or apart, because if only one partner seeks recovery and works the steps that causes as much difficulty if not more then if both partners choose to not enter recovery, does that make sense? like Yin needs the yang and vice versa, so if one gets better and enters recovery while the other remains the same, the yin and yang don't match and go together any more, thank God we have 12 steps too



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Learning to trust again is risky , I remember it well . The one thing I learned in sobriety is that if I take care of me regardless of what he does I will be okay. I didnt waste 5 min worring about his drinking again because I finally understood that there was nothing I could do about it anyway .. my only suggestion is if you love him take a chance work your own program and leave him to AA and God they will take care of him  No ones life is always perfect we have arguments but because we both had people to talk to and reason things out with we got thru the rough times . Dont miss the good days .. God only knows how long we prayed for sobriety . We have 20 yrs of sobriety in our home today and I am not sorry we took a chance to try again . Louise



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Those precious times when my sober AH would show up for awhile were wonderul...and deceiving for me. The next thing I knew, I thought he might be able to control his drinking on his own, I bought into his fantasy.  Maybe this time he could. We were happy and enjoying each other like old times. I saw the light at the end of the tunnel.

My family and friends warned me....but I actually thought of moving home again, and giving up my safe little rented house...then he slipped and slipped hard. Drunken weepy calls, a mumbly voice I could hardly understand, and mysterious cuts and bruises from falling down. I waited day after day for the sober moments.....I'm so sad....All those months of working on me and my new life and I traded it in on my old delusion. Now I'm back to square one.

  Is this the time that I finally learn?

Danielle-- I wish you happiness and send hugs for your future.



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Danielle - I think you just witnessed a "wonderful weekend" of real-life, and that your AH, although early in his recovery, is obviously trying to both work his program, and win back the woman he loves....  All of it is good, and positive....

My "oldtimer's advice" to you would be to continue your program and your awareness....    A's (perhaps most specifically those in early recovery) tend to "want it all and want it now" (heck, we aren't that different on that one!), but I think it is key to keep things in perspective.....Yes, this weekend was a huge positive, and you have every right and reason to celebrate that - internally and externally....  The concept of "One Day at a Time" still is very applicable, however....  Enjoy the moment.....  allow yourself to fall back a little bit more in love with your growing and recovering hubby (all good), but also keep your awareness up, and remember that you BOTH need to continue to work your programs right now, and there is no "race" to put everything back together, right this moment....

Awesome stuff, and so glad you had an enjoyable weekend.... Here's to many more, and continued progress for you both.

T



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Aloha Danielle...great post for me.  It reminded me what it was like back then when my alcoholic was attempting sobriety in the suggested way and I was still having troubles.  It reminded me that I didn't take the focus off of her even when she was in AA and working the program.  I still focused on her and believed that my happiness and serenity was dependant on her sobriety.  I was wrong and would find that out much alter and I was not getting help for it.  My spouse was working a recovery and I wasn't. The chances for success grow greatly when both people, the family, are working a program of recovery, change.  I sabotaged my spouses recovery somewhat by not learning what alcoholism and addition was all about and what my part was in it.  When I felt fear I projected it.  Body language says way more than the mouth ever does and one of the characters in the players on alcoholism is hyper-sensitivity to each other and then reaction.  No wonder "our" recovery was such a crap shoot and didn't work out.  When I project fear she got defensive and confused and angry and all that other stuff I got when I was doing the same thing.  For me today Love is the absence of Fear and the reverse is also true for me.  When I am in fear it is all about me no matter how much I say I fear because I care about her.  When I am in fear I loose compassion and understanding and don't exercise my ability to reachout to touch and apply support.

Keep working the program while he is working his....If you don't have a sponsor yet get one so that you can have someone personal to support you while you are trying to be supportive yourself.   (((((hugs))))) smile 



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I gleaned all I could from when it was nice with my AH. I learned to love him even if he was drinking. Used tools from Al Anon.

If he relapsed, he did,not my problem, I focused on loving the man. If he got obnoxious, dangerous whatever I had him leave. Then he would come back for awhile and do his best to be what he knew was a good person.

He tried really hard to be what he called normal. I mean he knew what it was, but for most A's its like following a manual, and hopefully deveoping new habits.

I would not want the apologies. means nothing to me. I ignore what people say and watch what they do.

Its natural when we have been hurt so bad to be leery. I remember when things were going so nice. then a word, an action would burst the whole thing. yuck.

I had to learn to love the whole man, with his disease and all. Relapse was just part of it.

I did not see AA mentioned in his description? detox, rehab then they come home and do 90 meetings in 90 days. then they go as much as they decide to.

Its ok to prepare yourself, protect yourself.

Myself I just cannot face going thru the horror I went thru again. I just cannot. Love is not all I need. My animals treat me better than my brain damaged, monster AH ex.

If he was not abusive it might have been different.

I hope you will have lots of good time hon! Always glad to see ya here. love,deb



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