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My wife and I are both actively working our programs--me Al Anon, her AA. And we are seeing the same therapist individually who is helping us deal with lifelong issues from our past that are holding us back. It's an overwhelming process and there are times when I feel myself thinking "I really really don't want to do this", and I'm sure my wife has the same feelings. But we both keep going and keep trying. The progress has been slow and in some ways feels non existent but I am trying to stay positive and keep going with it and I know I will get out of it what I put into it. My wife has received her 90 day chip through AA and if nothing else these days she certainly seems sober. Although I do see her falling back into the old traps of feeling bad about herself and feeling as if she is letting everyone down. The reality of what we are doing, from my perspective, is that we are becoming new people. I'm trying not to sound overly dramatic about it but the issues that we are trying to resolve are issues that have really shaped who we are as people in our lifetimes. We are not young people--I am 42 and my wife is 40.
Something that troubles me is that in becoming new people, we are no longer the same people who fell in love nearly 9 years ago. The reality is that what attracted me to my wife and my wife to me are the very issues that we are trying to fix. It was more than that, but those issues made up a big part of why we "worked" as a couple in those early weeks, months and years. We both needed to be co-dependent on the other and our relationship flourished because of that. Take that away and now what?
This process manifests itself in so many ways in our day to day lives. Much of it is very subtle and we aren't even aware of it. But some are so specific. For example, in the "old days" my wife & I would e-mail each other constantly, at least once or twice an hour. I realized it was doing me no good and I was analyzing every word and every punctuation mark in her e-mails. Is she happy? Is she having a bad day? Is she drunk? My therpaist suggested I stop the e-mails, and I have. I e-mail her once or twice a day, tops. But she keeps e-mailing me, even if I haven't e-mailed her. Long, long notes about her day. It hurts me not to respond but I don't. And I know it hurts her when I don't. I have over 20,000 e-mails from our dating and early marriage days in my e-mail folder...
Aloha Usedtobe...I was thinking I'd maybe offer to trade you age years and then remembered what I was like back then and....well....no thanks the world needs young people and you and your wife get to be those for today. You know what I do with my program attending wife when she isn't feeling "enough"...I give her a hug and a pat on the butt errr back and give her a truthful affirmation. It's not a job anymore and it isn't fixing...it's expression compassion and love.
My wife started out with me telling her I "love" you and "don't need" you. She has gotten to where she can define herself and not be defined by me. She was not born with my name etched on her heart or in her brain. I am an attachment not an anchor and she should be able to attache and detach at will and when necessary and stand by herself within her own glow without me blocking her light. I like applauding her wins and strengths and I don't need to do that either.
Fixing is a habit and breaking the habit takes more practice of something different if not opposite in order to get better which is scarey because I had to then fill the time I use to spend fixing with things that were me...How in the world I learned to do that came within the program. As I move farther away from fixing I move closer and closer to loving/accepting my wife for exactly who she is at anyone moment...just like HP does with each and every one of us...my opinion of course and then I know that my HP loves me unconditionally and part of my recovery if not the most of it is to do the very same thing with others, my wife included.
It's good your breaking the habit of emailing...find something uplifting and positive to do during the meantime including accepting that your wife isn't in the same race that you are in...same place and time. That's letting her go and after work? Honest hug and love and affirmation. She's doing good also...Yay!! Replace worry with faith and trust. You and she are growing. 90 days of recovery...90 days without fail ...90 days away from old unworkable habits of thinking, feelings, and behaviors. Yay again. Keep coming back (((((hugs)))))
You had concern today about several things, but mostly the situation concerning emails.
You became a member of MIP on Oct 6th last year a little over 4 months ago. You had just attended you first f2f meeting prior to becoming a member here.
You and your wife have come a long way in a short time. If you want to prove that to yourself, all you have to do is read the first topic you started on Oct. 6th.....I just did.
Wow, you sound like us! Different situation, but similar in that we are both early 40's and trying to deal with the codependency that brought us together 16 years ago! Crazy how marriage doesn't get any easier even after all this time. I understand exactly where you are coming from and it's one of the reasons that I haven't been in 'self-discovery mode' very much in the past. I was afraid that if I change....what happens to the relationship? Will it be too much change? Will I get apathetic about our marriage because I choose to detach? Oh, the questions I have had and still have. One thing my husband and I have talked about is that we really need to communicate on a much deeper level than the simple pleasantries of every day life and we know that's where the work will be. It scares the crap out of me, quite frankly, but I do believe it's the key to our eventual happiness.
Glad you are following your therapist's instructions. See how it turns out and keep coming back here!
From my experience, married people growing, maturing, changing is what makes marriage a work in progress.
We grow and change if we are in therapy or not. Also I learned that marriage is always changing, growing. Sometimes we are friends, sometimes lovers, co workers, room mates, back to lovers.
I think I fell in love with my husband a thousand different times in my life. He went thru tons of changes, me too. Day at a time. We don't know that we will be looking at our spouse one day moving a spider out of the house and all in love with them all over again!
No one stays the same. I was attracted to this young handsome cowboy on a big motorcycle who played guitar! I loved him off and on for 40 years. Between Viet Nam, babies, deaths of our loved ones and more, when we really grew but never lost that special love that was always in our hearts.
Even now, I am not with AH, I still hold love inside for the husband I lost.
It will be ok! Trust in HP. hugs,debilyn
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Thanks everyone...I really appreciate all of your replies...made me feel really good and positive...Just going to keep going and keep trying. Had an F2F meeting last night and that was so helpful too...