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Husband is an addict- help!!!


I am in crises mode. I married a wonderful man in October- since he is from Mexico, we decided to move back to his home town, a huge city called Guadalajara. We have been together for 2 years. We have been here since December, and 3 weeks ago my husband left and started using crack. He was gone for one day, then came home. I knew that he was a recovered addict- I never dreamed he would go back to it! Since the first time he left, he's gone 2 more times. I don't know what to do. His family says he has been an addict for 15 years and has ALWAYS been an active user. They say they are tired of dealing with it. He refuses to go to rehab, refuses to go to meetings. Says he is trusting God to help him, that he knows it's selfishness on his part and that he wants to stop, that he knows it's a decision that he has to make. Some days I can see the fight going on inside of him, the battle he's fighting, but he is trying to do it alone! His family says he always comes back the same day, but yesterday he left and took a large amount of money and he still hasn't come home. I asked him directly before he left if he was going to use- he lied and said no, he'd be home in a half hour. I feel very betrayed! I never thought this man would lie to me like this- I am learning more and more about the lies he has been telling all along...
I left everything, even my own family, to follow him here to a country I am not familiar with. I speak the language, thank God, but I still feel very alone. I am a Christian, and when I said my vows, I made a promise not just to my husband but also to God and I don't feel like divorce is an option for me. But I want to go home! I don't have my visa here yet, so I can't work. I have no way to support myself- we were getting ready to open a restaurant, with his father's help, but that option is gone now, because I can't trust him to be stable and help run it. And I can't trust him not to run off with every penny we make! 3 times he has fallen in 3 weeks, and I just don't know where to turn. Someone, please help...



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Hi - It sounds like your husband needs to be hospitalized for rehabilitation. I don't know what the medical resources are like there but would he be willing to go? Does he want to be clean?

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Before you get in even deeper, I say cut your losses and go home. God understands. IF your husband wants to clean up, he will whether you are there or not. Leaving is not easy. Took me 2 years. Wish I had done it sooner, but I wasn't ready.

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Hi I am so sorry you are in such pain  It is good that you speak the language so that you can find alanon face to face meetings in the community and receive the support you need. 

You are dealing with a dreadful disease that infects all that it comes in contact with.  You need help to recover from your living with it.  In addition to face to face meetings in your community you can find support by coming to MIP.  We have on line meetings her 3xs a day and 24/7 hour chat.  

No one will tell you what to do- We will love you until you learn to love yourself and can make decisions that benefit your life

Keep coming back.

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You said vows based on what you knew of him at the time...He lied to you. I understand your belief system and respect it. Just something to think about. I get the vibe that you are so trapped in your current situation...I think in going to some meetings you might find support and alternatives you didn't know were there.

Wishing you peace,

Mark

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I to am sorry you are in pain, and COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND your situation. I too married a wonderful man in Oct 2009 (who was my sweetheart from 1987 and we reunited in 2009 after all those years). I prefer to say I am a spiritual person developing my relationship with the Creator, Grandfather, of my understanding. I believe strongly when I said my vows and made that promise before the Creator and dont feel as though divorce is an option either. I too left everything, family including my first twin grand girls soon to be born and followed him to a remote village in Alaska that I am not familiar with and I feel alone today. My AH refused to go to meetings when we lived in the city, said he was trusting God and has only his Faith AND also says he knows hes selfish and wants to stop. I have listened to him say this for the past 8-9 months and have not seen any action except for a few dry spells. Yes the fight goin on inside them is they suffer from a disease. Which took me a long time to grasp and to understand the fact that I did not cause it, cant control it, and cannot cure it. I too have been suffering until this past Sunday (following another drinking binge my AH went on for 2 days, I didnt know what to do until I went into this website to be reminded and began reading the boards)whew thank God for this program, MIP and others who have shared their experience, strength and hope. I came into these rooms with wounded pride and ego and low self worth and could only grasp it when others shared similar situations as mine. I wont apologize for the long response because it takes what it takes to go to any length to get healed. You are doing good, just keep coming back and You will come to realize that there is no situation too difficult to be bettered and no unhappiness too great to be lessened.    And I realized that I had to detach w/love when he finally came home Sunday night following all the reading and studying I did, my response was of love not condemnation. I felt better. It was for me called grace as God has given us even though we dont deserve it. Well I thought about it and it applies to ALL. And lastly I was amazingly able to state my position calmly to him the next day after he sobered up and said if you have to tie one on please let me know so that I can leave for a few days until you are done. Today Im not ready to leave my marriage and that is the action I am capable of Just for Today.

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I know you more than likely are in shock and hurt and feel betrayed which you have every right to be. Addiction isn't logical it makes no sense. Trying to understand why someone you love is hurting themselves and you and destroying your marriage is pointless. I know that sounds crazy but it is true. I am an analyzer I like to make sense of everything that happens in my life and know the reasons for everything. That will get you no where with addiction. Addicts/alcoholics active in their addiction are in another mindset. The feelings are detached. They aren't worried about anything but their relationship with their addiction.

Relying on your husband to love you and protect you and be honest with you is virtually impossible.

THIS is YOUR time to love yourself enough and take a stand for you. Cut your losses now girlfriend. I'm being serious when I say this. Been there done that. Cut your losses NOW and leave him. He is quicksand and the longer you stay around the deeper you will get sucked in and it will be harder to get out.

Know your worth and leave.

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I am so sorry you are going through this.

In your situation (as in all of ours) it's important and helpful to learn all you can about addiction. Read all the threads on this board, and get to some online meetings. If there are Al-Anon meetings or Nar-Anon meetings in your city, try those too (try several as they can all be different and you may go to several before you find one that's right for you). This is too hard to do alone.

One thing that Al-Anon teaches is the three C's: You didn't Cause it, You Can't Control it, you can't Cure it.  It doesn't sound as if you're trying those things, but many many of us do, so just to reassure you.  Nothing you're doing or not doing will have any effect.  Sadly.

The lies and deception go with addiction, sadly too. The disease pulls the person into insanity and does whatever it can to protect itself. I had known my husband for several years before I realized he had a problem, and for longer before I realized how deep his problem was. He was so, so good at hiding it. But eventually the craving takes over and comes out into the open.  It was after I got married that I really found out that my husband was an addict. Something about that extra being around all the time made it impossible to hide.

Another thing I wish someone had told me earlier is that only about 20%-25% of alcoholics who go into recovery achieve longterm sobriety. (And a lot never go into recovery.) I don't know what the statistics are for drug addiction, but I wouldn't bet it's better than alcoholism.

A thought about divorce. Of course a lot of people will have strong feelings and tell you what to do here. One thing I wished someone had asked me: If you knew that nothing about what he's doing would ever change, what would you choose to do?  Because a lot of my choices were based on the idea that eventually I could get him to see the light and he would change. Some people's partners do change -- but unfortunately they change on their own time line, not on ours.  It could be next week, but it could be in forty years.

I don't have an inside line to God's thoughts, but I do know the history of Christianity, which is part of my job. For the entire history of Christianity, spouses have sometimes chosen to live apart. This is with the approval of the Church -- in fact at many points the Church has thought it was an extra holy thing to do, because without the turmoil of everyday relationships, people are freer to concentrate on higher things. So one option you have is to go back to your home state and live apart from your husband, but without divorcing him. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. It does sound to me as if some quiet space to think would be helpful for you.  But as a counselor once said to me, "Sometimes you have to keep touching the stove until you're sure it's hot."

Whatever your next move, please take care of yourself.  I hope you will keep coming back.

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When I met the ex Addict/alcoholic I lived with for a long time, his mantra was that his then ex girlfriend was the source of all his problems.

I did not have al anon at the time and I bought that and bought that he really was focused on making a better life for himself.  Naturally he was an addict/alcoholic all along and both he and I were in denial.

Coming out of denial is a difficult time.  I raged, wept and felt very betrayed.  I also felt like that was the beginning of a long journey to finally begain taking care of myself.

Stay/leave seems so crucial when you are faced with an alcoholic/addict on a downward path.  I think that the book Getting them Sober would help you to work out a plan of action.  I know all of the al anon tools would and the more you can work on them (with a sponsor if possible) the less of a quagmire it is.

Welcome to this wonderful place.

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He came home after 24 hours and it was touch and go for about an hour- he was going to send me back to the US and "get help on his own." It didn't help that his parents were here and his mom was screaming and yelling at him, telling him she wants him as far away from her family as possible. (His brother is ALSO an addict and they care for him at home when he binges, or occasionally if he's really bad they force him into rehab, where nothing changes because it's not HIS choice to be there!) But we were finally able to leave the house and sit and talk without them at the park and I told him he needs help, he can't do it on his own. He is a prideful man, and like one other lady posted here, he wants God to just do it and he thinks if he prays enough or studies enough, that's all he needs. But I heard a man say once that YES, we are spiritual beings, but we are also FLESHLY beings, and we can't just care for ONE side of our nature. We have to understand and deal with BOTH, and for addicts this means getting help and support. Anyway, after talking for about 20 minutes- calmly, not yelling- he said "come with me to the pay phone," and I did, without knowing what he was going to do. He had a card in his wallet from a good rehab center here in the city. He knows the man that runs it, through his brother, who has been there. So he called the guy and told him he has a problem and really needs some help and asked if he could come in right away. Javier told him he could and I went to get what he needed from the house while he waited- he didn't want to see his mom. His parents were still at the house when I got back and his mom was furious that I was packing things for him; she even went so far as to tell me that he would either sell his Bible for drugs or use the pages to roll joints! She said "You will see in an hour that he's lying because we are going to call and see if he arrives!" Of course, their lack of support made it alot worse but I went back to the park, gave him ten pesos for the bus (that's like a dollar!) and watched hm walk away... An hour later I spoke to Javier and my husband arrived safe and sound at the rehab center and he has now been there for almost 3 days. I am meeting with Javier this afternoon to find out what the plan is, but Jorge went to rehab WILLINGLY and he even made the call himself! I am hoping and praying this is the turning point. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. Thanks.
Rhonda

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Dear Rhonda

Great news  He is safe and  in rehab now it is your turn 

Please take care of you  Find meetings, join us here with on line meetings---  Learn the tools that will save your sanity and life

You are not alone.

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I went today to talk to the director of the center. My in-laws refused to allow me to go alone- they wanted to control what I said to Javier (the director) and monitor everything, and justify themselves in front of them in case Jorge told them how insane they have been... Anyway, Javvier said part of Jorge's treatment will include getting me into a group and counseling too. Thank God! He was telling me that there is a huge need here for narcanon and alanon groups for women and kids... My father-in-law jumped in and told him I could facilitate them, because I am good with things like that! I am so irritated with my inlaws right now... Good grief, get out of the middle of this and let your son recover, and let me heal and grow! Don't try to control all the details!!! Grrrrr....
Anyway, Jorge is doing well, sleeping alot as he detoxes, and Javier says next sunday I can go see him. One more week... Hopefully by then they will have convinced him to stay longer than the 15 days he requested... And hopefully I can prevent his parents from going with me to see him! :-/
Thank you everyone...

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(((Rhonda)))

You are such a strong level headed and understanding lady. I admire you for you patience and perseverance. Your husband realizing and accepting that he had a problem and seeking help for himself is half the battle. Both of you are in my prayers.

Now is the time to start taking care of Rhonda, and I have no doubt that you will.

Your not alone, your faith and Higher Power is walking beside you.

HUGS,
RLC

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I am hoping to attend the online meeting tonight. I will eventually start going to ones here in GDL as well, but right now my brian feels to over-loaded to get much out of the Spanish-speaking meetings- I would rather start with my native language! LOL
My hubby is still at the center, and it's really hard to know he's there and not go see him, hard to want to talk to him and not be able to... The Bible says when a man and a woman marry, the become one flesh, and that feels so true right now- it physically hurts to be seperated from him this way. At the same time, I know how necessary it is if we are to continue through life together...
The ironic thing in all of this is that it is Jorge's dream to open a rehab center and help other addicts. When he is helping other people, it's like the focus goes of of him and his needs and wants and he's better able to stay clean. Does that make sense to any of you? Javier, the director, was a crack addict for 30 years and he understands the fight. He also understands that drive to help- that's why he has his own rehab centers. When I spoke to him yesterday, he said he is more than willing to help Jorge learn how to accomplish his dream and help him go for it. He is willing to take my husband under his wing and become like a mentor to him. Please pray that Jorge stays willing to fight, and that he decides to stay for as long as he needs to there at the center. As long as my husband is fighting his demons and not just giving in- I feel hope that things can and will change, and I will stay right here by his side (figurally at the moment) to support him.
Right now I am standing firm. Thank you all for being such a wonderful support to me!

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