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I think Al-Anon encourages us to detach. In this detaching, we aren't expected to totally pretend nothing bad has happened, right? We are encouraged to state our feelings without pointing fingers or judging. Is this correct? Maybe there should be some fine print about the fact it could blow up in your face over and over. Last night I woke up to hear my husband yelling into the phone downstairs. I groggily listen and he is really "going to town" on thisperson at the other end of the line. So I pick up the extension, thinking it might be a family member. Well, the poor person on the other end was a Greco worker! His tone and manner sent shiwvers down my spine and caused my heart to beat wildly. I can only imagine how she felt. After the call, I hear him call back Greco again. This time, a male delivery person answered and proceeded to talk to my AH in a calm manner (pacifying him really, but my AH thought he had "won the guy over"). Later, my AH comes to bed and tosses and turns while grumbling and swearing under his breath. I am scared to move because I don't want him to start talking to me. Finally, after he falls into a fitful sleep, I sneak out and sleep in the basement. SO...just now I tell him (in a kind, calm voice) how his behaviour last night scared me. He tells me he was mad and that's why he talked to the pizza girl that way. I told him that is not his personality and I felt very unnerved by it. Well...after that point it all got turned around and I would never understand his recovery from benzos b/c I just don't care and whenver he tries to talk to me I just shrug it off and this and that and this and that and so on. I wish I had kept my mouth shut. I am so sick and tired of trying to use the skills I am learning and being unsuccessful. I am so sick and tired of things being turned around to all the things I am doing wrong...the final accusation was that I spend too much time with our kids and not enough with him. I tried to tell him we are parents and we are supposed to spend time with our kids and he was welcome to do it with me...but it all came back to him and the fact he is being ignored (just for the sake of argument, we do need to spend more time together, but we have a kid with special needs and we do almost as well as most other couples and the other husbands don't see the need to get drink and balme all their woes on the wife/mother). Anyways, I just needed to vent. Thanks for hearing me out.
Oh looking I am so sad you are going thru this! I do know you need respite time. Do you have a connection with the school your child goes to? Maybe the sp. ed dept could help you with respite.
You could call your dept of human resources too and ask about respite for a sp. needs kiddo.
Just a suggestion FOR YOU. Its very draining I know.BUT I know you love your child. I needed respite from my kids without sp needs!
Then to have to deal with this horrible disease, you need a rest. We all need to refill our spiritual, emotional, physical and mental needs! What do you do to anti stress?
What makes me say this is if he woke you up, and you felt secure, and knee it was the disease talking, you might not have felt as bad. You would think oh brother, then do what you did, taking care of you, sleeping somewhere else.
Hey I tell ya separate bedrooms was GREAT. I did that. I had my own space to have quiet, read, watch tv, take a shower whatever. It was my haven. It was a boundary, when I go into my room I need my privacy. If his disease would have bothered me, I woulda showed him the door out and he could go to mommys, but he respected my space.
It was sad though, he was horribly abused by his A father, so he knew well how awful the disease made him. He understood what made me need to get away.
You did well getting away. Now as far as listening to the phone....to me it is like looking for needles and bottles. Just now our stuff. Its the disease.
I guess my greatest fear is the kiddo's hear this.
I am glad you came here to share.
And you know you are living with a disease hon. maybe those "other" couples are not. The disease is insanity.
Wish I was closer, would love to watch the kids for you. OH and the state or federal pays for the respite....
love,debilyn
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I'm so sorry this happened. The way I understand it, detachment isn't about pretending nothing bad happened; it's about not letting the bad things pull us into insanity and out of our serenity.
I'm sure others will have wise things to say, but I send you many hugs.
I know when I first began detaching 9in a crisis neeedless to say) I really expected miracles. I've been at detachment for a good few years now. Some days I do better than others.
The blanket sick and tired statements are also something I did. These days I am able to think I know where that thinking gets me.
Any new skill takes practice. Practising around an active alcoholic is like trying to lift a 300 lb weight without first stretching and working up to it. Try detaching when the lights are against you. Try detaching when you are in liine at the supermarket. I still have to start small.
I no longer expect any active alcoholic to hear my complaint. I expect them to hear my boundary because there is a consequence if they don't. I don't expect them to hear my feelings, my thoughts, my issues at all. Their disease means they are totally bound up in theirs. Do I have times when I remonstrate about that about how super manipulative they are and how everything is always about them sure thing. I also know that I do not have to let it control me day and night like it did for years on end.
The program is about progress Looking; not perfection and I learned I worked it for me because I needed it and not because or for her; the alcoholic/addict spouse. In time I got it and after I got it I also got the message that I would want to work it in all situations in all of my affairs. I cannot detach and "attach" both at the same time so quite often detaching for me is working at not attaching; keeping my mind and emotions out of her or their stuff and keeping my business and behaviors to myself alone. Follow thru takes Practice, Practice, Practice. Keep coming back (((hugs)))
Al-Anon does not promise that speaking our truth to another will fix that person or convince them to change, apologize, think things over, etc. It definitely does not promise that the A will not blow up at us.
My sponsor, thankfully, was always great about telling me that I can speak my mind - even do it peacefully and calmly, but there is absolutely NO promise that doing so will get that other person to respond peacefully and calmly in kind.
All I can do is keep my side of the fence clean. If I know everything's in order on my end, then if the person's response is negative it's because that person is not okay with themselves. They may NEVER be okay with themselves, and I cannot take that responsibility.
Being okay with someone being angry around me is a tough place for me to be. I've often had to leave the room or the house and get to a meeting or get on the phone with my sponsor or an Al-Anon friend if I was feeling attacked despite my best efforts to speak my heart peacefully.