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From the Co-founder of AA



Aloha Family...just some verifying information from the other program that I came
across from inside my own library of literature (literature is very good!!).  I use to
wonder what the alcoholic knew and felt and thought.  Did they (she) understand and
I haunted that question if not her self wanting to know did she know what was going
inside of me, did she suspect what I was going thru, could she see the inevitible
consequences of out of control drinking and the "stuff" that came with it.  what the
hell did she suspect?   I never got the answer from her except little snips and
snatches of encrypted words, actions, thoughts and feelings.  I never put enough
together to arrive at "Did she care?".   Actually alcoholis are drunks not idiots.  They
are under the influence of a mind and mood altering chemical which they are very
throughly obsessed with   and    they know and can see and have suspicions about
the consequences.  So she didn't reveal to me but the Co-founder of AA did in a
warning to the fellowship of AA before his death while on his journey of sobriety.

I thought I'd bring that here just for enlightenment.   "Nothing can be more demoral-
izing that a clinging and abject dependence upon another human being.  This often
amounts to the demand for a degree of protection and love that no one could
possibly satisfy.  So our hoped for protectors finally flee, and once more we are left
alone - either to grow up or disintegrate."

He would say in sobriety what the alcoholic already suspects and expects
as they battle their addiction; obsession to alcohol unsuccessfully.
In time the enablers will quit.

(((((hugs))))) smile

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Thank you very much Jerry!

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Hi Jerry
i must admit that I felt that that sentence also applied to me as an alanonic.

When I worked my step 4 I descoveed deep down that I too wanted what you quoted from the AA literature

I wanted to demand  a degree of protection and love that no one could
possibly satisfy.  So our hoped for protectors finally flee, and once more we are leftalone - either to grow up or disintegrate."

 I wanted to be a princess and not have to do any work at it.  I was angry with HP because the world required that I show up and be responsible  What a gift I was given when I  learned to be a grown up, a responsible adult able to function and live life on life's terms. 

No hiding behind anyone an equal partner in the grown up world

Al Anon tools got me there

 Thanks for the topic

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Hot Rod you tell it like it really was and I've been there and done that also.  I had
no protection because I was Superman, the Green Arrow and Aquaman, Bruce Lee
and every other hero including Underdog when I went up against this disease which
caused me to scream UNCLE!!  Good feedback.  (((hugs))) smile

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where do you find the 12 steps. Is it posted here on the webiste or do I have to buy a book?

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