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My own relapse


Yesterday my AH told me his crew would be working 10 hours. I sent a message to the wife of the family he's staying with (the husband is working with my AH), commenting how I was glad they were working 10, since it would give my AH less time to sit around their house feeling sorry for himself. I realize and acknowledge now that I sent that message in an attempt to "confirm" my AH's story. She messaged back that no, they were only working 8 hours.  My heart sank and the familiar out of control anxiety returned. Why would he lie? What was he planning to do during those 2 hours?

I flew into a frenzy. I asked the wife to tell me when he got home, and if he left the house again. I pulled his cell phone call log, dismayed to see that the day's calls wouldnt appear until after midnight. I sent him a message, intending to give him the opportunity to reply that they had gotten off early. The wife then told me that my AH had planned to work 10 hours but got sent home after 8 due to the wind. He had come back to the house. But still...no contact from him. By the time he called, it was the time he would call after a 10 hour shift. I gave him every opportunity to say they'd only worked 8 hours, but he never did. At one point I said "well, at least you got to work 10 hours" and he simply agreed.  My mind began to race; even though he had been at the house the whole time, what had he been doing? why had he lied? My one personal victory is that I did not confront him about it.

We talked a few times during the evening as we usually do, and then hung up so he could go to bed. I tended to the kids and the dogs, and tried to sleep. I woke up after midnight in an utter panic. My heart raced and my hands shook as I loaded his cell phone call log onto the computer, where I found that the only number he had called all day was mine And while a small part of me was relieved, a much bigger part of me felt tremendous shame, and I knew as I closed the browser window that what I found didn't mean anything anyway: If he wants to call some girl he met at a bar, there are a thousand ways to do it without me ever knowing.

As I climbed back into bed, wide awake and utterly ashamed, I thought the following things:

1. this snooping, spying, this "need to know the truth"...where was it coming from? As I thought it through, i decided it comes from my attitude that knowledge is power; that the more I know about what he is doing and how he is lying will somehow increase my power, which I further decided was a means for me to try and assert control over his life and his choices.

2. and yet, such control is impossible. If he wants to lie and make bad choices, he will find a way to do it, no matter what. I can NEVER know everything, and my attempts to know as much as possible have left me an anxious, panic stricken mess.

3. This snooping is MY addiction, my insanity and my compulsion. The physical reaction it invokes alone seems like the kind of feeling an addict either receives from indulging her addiction, or the kind of feeling an addict uses her addiction to numb.

4. It is not my job, nor my right, to manufacture situations to "alow" my AH to come clean. His choices to be dishonest are his alone, and I cannot manipulate things to make it "easier" for him to tell the truth. Being truthful is his obligation alone.

The snooping felt like my own personal relapse...like I had fallen off the wagon, forgetting what I am learning. Now I'm trying to learn from how I felt and what my motives were, so that I can make better choices next time.

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Yes, you slipped, it happens. But the important thing is that you learned from it. I've found that looking at my motives helps me to understand the WHY behind some of the things I do. Or want to do but then decide not to because I realize it's for the wrong reason. This program is about progress, not perfection. And from your post it looks to me like you've made tremendous progress. Good for you!

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Sounds like classic obsession :)  try to focus on yourself , your the only one you can control.....:)

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One of the hard things for me as I have started in Al Anon has been others telling me that I am sick too. I've never been comfortable with that, and I've always thought to myself "no, it's my wife who is getting hammered in the middle of the day. She's the one who is sick, not me". But I now know the truth...how much time did I spend searching every inch of the house for proof? How much time did I spend on my hands and knees checking inside every cabinet? And how come I felt such a rush of adrenaline and almost euphoria when I DID find proof? Because I am sick as well. In my case, alcoholism has been something that has impacted me my entire life. My parents were alcoholics as well...so this sickness has been around for a long time. It is only now, after 40+ years, that I am finally becoming aware of it. And I'm very thankful for that.

Stephanie, I can imagine how difficult that experience was...but you're on the right track and you have the right attitude...you just can't control what he does...just focus on you...

-- Edited by usedtobeanyer on Thursday 4th of November 2010 08:34:57 AM

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You're human, and are in a tough spot right now, so try not to beat yourself up too bad....  There are not really any "shoulds" in Al-Anon - just helpful suggestions of what we can do to help make our own lives more manageable and serene....

For me, the "snooping" (on cell phones, etc) is exactly like the "snooping" for bottles, or other 'evidence'..... In the end, it doesn't help appease your concern in the least - when I used to snoop - if I found the bottles, the result was no big deal - I "caught" my alcoholic doing what alcoholics do - drinking..... If I didn't find the bottles, my frustration or angst didn't get any better, as I just assumed that I simply hadn't found them, and they were still there.....  It tends to be an exercise in futility....    No different for the cell phone issue, or facebook, etc.....  If you "think" he is messing around, the act of "not finding evidence" at any one given time isn't going to help change that perception....

The answer lies in...... working on you.

He will either drink (or cheat, or whatever) or he won't..... what are YOU gonna do?

Take care
Tom

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Thanks, everyone, for the guiding words and the ESH.

It has been surprisingly easy for me to accept that I have issues that need to be fixed.  My struggle has been accepting that I cannot *understand* what is happening to my AH.  Some days I do accept it, and I think I have detached from the actual drinking fairly well (it's much easier to do that because he is 600 miles away).  It's the *other* behavior that baffles me.  The lying, for no real reason but just to lie--part of me demands to understand why he does it, and a very loud inner voice shouts "he wouldn't do it if he really loved you."  I am learning through the program how destructive those thought processes are, and I am trying desperately to return the focus on me.  If he decides he doesn't love me, so be it.  If he decides to cheat on me, so be it.  If he decides to leave me, so be it.  I cannot change that decision for him.  And my desire to "understand" is both futile, because this disease is not a rational disease and does not produce rational actions, and harmful to myself, because it takes the focus away from me and the work I need to do to be well.

Today is a new day.  Today is a day when I will try to focus on myself, and on things I can control.

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Here is something I posted about this under my other name a couple months ago..."when I expect something from someone or expect someone to do something (or not do something) it ends up that I don't get what I expect. I then get VERY resentful. I have figured out that I need to say what I mean and mean what I say in every situation (and not say it mean). I am not the boss of my ABF, nor can I force change, or force a solution with him and his disease. I am really trying to detach with love, or as I have read "With Love, Detach". He is my best friend, a great listener and a wonder to me in many ways. I am grateful that I know him because he is the reason I found Alanon."

As the others said, you cannot control what he does, only what you do. I work on this every single day. I work on not slipping and not letting my addiction take over (which is probably the same feeling they get when they give in to their addiction, shame and sadness and yuckiness)..... If I fall into snooping, or checking on him, then I feel so awful afterwards. So I have learned to not let myself. Believe me, its very hard to not do it. I have to breathe and distract myself. I am learning to focus on me, and only me. I am using the tools I have learned here and with my sponsor to do this. I am progressing... I do not have expectations anymore.... I pray each day for HP to see me through. Take care of you....

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Snooping has made me sick in the past, too. I know exactly what you mean about the physical reactions. When I snooped, I would have complete tunnel vision - unable to focus on anything except the snooping. I would feel sick to my stomach and my heart would race and my hands would shake. If I found something, I'd feel an "I knew it" kinda relief, and then I would immediately begin obsessing about how wronged I'd been and how could the other person do what they did TO ME, etc. If I didn't find anything, I'd tell myself that i just wasn't looking hard enough - no amount of snooping relieved the feeling that I needed to know. The more snooping I did, the more I wanted to do. I guess I felt like I wanted to know everything so I wouldn't be blindsided by something - like, if I knew it was coming it wouldn't hurt as bad. This doesn't make any sense, because the physical reaction alone and my inability to even live my life because of the snooping hurt me greatly.

I recognize now that my thought process was very sick. People that do things and hide it - whether it's drinking, cheating, or whatever - do those things because THEY are sick. They don't do it TO me, or BECAUSE of me. They just do it. I don't get to decide what behavior someone else believes is right.

It's good you took note of the physical reaction and realize that snooping is harmful to your health. That is a lot of progress - just being able to pick out the behavior is awesome. Don't be hard on yourself for slipping - you learned something, and now it's behind you. :)

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White Rabbit, I know that feeling all too well. Great description! And great share :) Thanks

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Been there...... couldn't function till I found the empties, counted them, if they weren't empty Id mark it and go back and check to see how much had been drunk...... I always set myself up beautifully for the lies, I knew they would trip off the tongue but that didnt stop me. All As lie, that's just the way the disease is...... but that is for them to own.

Relapses are part of our growth. We can acknowledge it, learn from it and move forward.

Be gentle on yourself, you are aware of where it has got you so now you can do something different for your recovery.

You're doing great.

((((((hugs)))))))

Ness x



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Metaphorically you found the gold mine!!  Wow.  The solution is at the end of the
other three fingers pointing back at me while I wag that other one out at the alcoholic.

Another recovery member nailed it for me forever when after she introduced herself
to the room said, "my only problem is me and my only solution is God."

You snooped and dug and found Stephanie.  That's not something to feel bad about
as I have come to understand this "program" process.  The gold is in knowing who
you really are...keeping the great stuff and changing what needs to be changed.

Relapses are invitations to either get back into the classroom or run off to the cave
and I don't hear you heading for the cave.

Pick up your Al-Anon/MIP lantern and keep mining.   In support and thanks for
your experiences; we get to share in the gold.   (((((hugs))))) smile

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