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~*Service Worker*~

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I am hopeless


Not even sure I should bring this up

A man is interested in me. He is of the same religious beliefs. He had me do that messenger thing. He is polite and sent pics. Is VERY good looking, has HUGE beautiful house, probably what every woman would want.

Here I am scared to death, feeling I just cannot relate to all that. I don't care about money, told him I would not take a million for one of my chickens.Meanwhile on messenger he has these hearts raining down in the back round. gads

He is scaring me to death. yes I told  him that.

I don't even know why i am here writing this. do you?

No it is not ex AH. I feel zero there. Feel for my first husband who has been dead twenty nine years.

Feel for my best friend who is a guy.

What is wrong with me. deb

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Deb,
Be gentle with yourself. Maybe you are scared of a 'normie' who appears to have feelings and his life together?
Nothing wrong with being afraid. But as I heard in my F2F meeting yesterday, Faith is the opposite of Fear.
There is no rush for you to do or say anything. It's good you are being honest with yourself. HUGS

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"Easy does it"....give yourself time to work through your feelings...

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Take it one day at at time and remember to keep your wits about you :)

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Am I to understand this is a man you have never met in person?

Be aware and careful.  While it is now acceptable to meet a person online (look at all of us), but when you become "interested" it is time to step back and take a long, long look.  "Very good looking" and "huge, beautiful house" seem to me certain indicators.  "Same religious beliefs" is convenient too.  ANyone can claim these assets, hoping to snag someone unsuspecting.

Sorry to take the devil's advocate position, but please be careful.  The internet can be a wonderful place, but it is a jungle filled with those who would do you harm.

Best wishes,

Diva




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(((Deb)))

Please, Please remember that You are a wonderful, beautiful, caring women.  You have so very much to offer and this man  is so very fortunate  that you MIGHT be interested in him. 

Remember to stay focused on yourself, listen to that small voice within, stay very detached  and be careful about "Gving Your Beautiful Heart Away"

One Day At a Time more will be revealed.

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Oh sweetheart, you aren't hopeless!  You are human.

Being scared is smart, understandable, and human.  Just make sure it doesn't blanket everything so much you forget to enjoy yourself.

You are very smart and have a lot of tools to work with.  Take it slow and don't forget to smile.  And don't for one fraction of a second think you are not worthy of love.

You don't have to relate to his material possessions.  If you relate to him, that stuff doesn't matter.

You came to the right place and shared the right thing.  That is why we are here.  We love you and want to virtually hold your hand when you are feeling alone and vulnerable.

I agree with Diva, keep your eyes open - but also your heart.

How fun and exciting.  Enjoy it!!!

Tricia

-- Edited by tlcate on Tuesday 3rd of August 2010 09:36:40 AM

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Hello Deb,

Sometimes after living in chaos anything that feels exciting can be mistaken for panic and fear. Try to just enjoy it. At the same time I second Diva's post to be aware that there are people online that will use what they know to manipulate you. Keep the focus on you, remember your happiness comes from inside and this could be a wonderful bonus to your life but if it is not what you want then you know how to be content anyway. Keep taking care of you.

Jen

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Both my brothers met there spouses on the internet, they are happily married, one for eight years and the other 3 years. I use to be against meeting on the internet, but then I didnt do that great a job on picking partners on my own.

I say go with your gut feeling, take your time, my brother and his wife did not meet for at least 6 months after communicating on the net. The other brother couldnt have picked a better mate, she is Italian like us, a wonderful woman and her Father turned out to live in the same complex as my brother. My brother did a lot of dating on the internet and met a lot of not so nice people, so its a crap shoot.

You didnt say how long you have known him. But take your time, you dont know who is normal or not, just because somebody has a home and seems like they have it together doesnt prove anything.

I dated a retired Attorney for awhile after splitting with the A, he had lots of money. I took my time and glad I did, so much dysfunction and a spoiled daughter in between.

Again, Easy does it. One Day at A Time.

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I'm glad you did bring it up. You're saying out loud what many of us feel. Thanks for being so brave! I too wonder how I will deal with an "earth person" in anything but a professional/work environment. All my friends are alanon people. I'm also worried my "man picker" would be broken. Not that I
seeking that at this phase in my life, but I wonder if I ever will. One day at a time I guess!

Hugs, Rocky

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thank you so much.

I do know to be cautious. However he is a known person in the JW community I am involved with.

I have had many great relationships in  my life. My marriage was a blessing, the engagement was too. It only got horrible after the brain surgery. So it is not being afraid of normal. BUT those that wrote that, everything makes me think, and reminds me to be real.

Faith is huge. That is true. Faith without works is dead. 
Opposite is fear. I liked that. I have faith in most everything, but nothing makes me more fearful than thinking about developing a new relationship. I am  used to ones that I knew the person since we were kids.

Not really into brand new.

Being honest with myself, it was much easier when I was young and beautiful. The thought of someone liking me by just talking and writing, then meeting me and not wanting me is extremely scarey to me.

Though if that did happen, I would be fortunate to learn that about them.

One day is right. Just not into this I guess. yes so dang lonely.thank you,deb

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I too used to fall for the my picker is off -but- that isnt it IMHO and the it's a crap shoot out there, I also dont buy.  I think it all comes back to us and how we teach others how to treat us.

A new idea is scary - period.  Keep your wits about you, watch with your eyes -ands- dont project about the other person - at all.
   I'll tell ya some of what I did with this last relationship -bc- I was bound and determined to be totally different - to keep health as my goal and if a guy I was dating turned into a friend - then the friendship would always have to come first over the romantic aspect of the relationship.
   And we did break it off a few times - hung out as friends and then kept getting back together.  All the while we stayed friends.

I think it has more to do with being present in the now and exercising healthy boundaries in the relationship as you go. 

However, the other thing I did that was totally and completely different with him, was I never ever suggested anything to him, I never called him (unless it was returning a call).  It may sound strange or like a game -but- after having been so forward, aggressive & available to men - they might not have even been there.  I was willing and convenient.  Why not, it migh tfun - you know?  Well, I didnt want anymore of that.  I wanted to be sure to know that the man really and truly wanted to talk to me, see me & go out/hang out. 

I tried HARD to mind my own business and not ask him too much about the future (for example) if he brought it up, then I had the opportunity to have that conversation and ask a few questions. 

I exercised tons of boundaries -and that is what really saved me there.  Bc if it walked like a duck or sounded like a duck - I will take your word for it that I can see you want to be seen as a duck.  Im not going to give you the chance to lie to me about it - I can see it.  But part of seeing clearly and honestly -is- loving you first, honoring and respecting the inner child and HP inside of you.  You are so lovable and loving, why then do you not see that you deserve your own best love out there.  You say you are so lonely but are filled out the gills with animals - unconditional love angel-magnets, thats what they are! 

Do me a favor (or try it and prove me wrong) why not love you, like your own favorite best friend that you havent seen for the longest of times and that you want nothing more then to get to know the new you and see what has changed.  Greet you where you are, and know that YOU are love - acknowledge and recognize this by surrendering into it.  Love you as your own first priortiy - excercise your boundaries, so when u feel uncomfortalbe, u move on and keep practising detachment.  Focus on and manifest your own best self and honor the higher spirit within. 

ok, that got a lil long -but- I did this and after practising loving me at the tiniest iota of an incriment - something changed instantly inside me.  I no longer am tolerant of abuse from myself and if my thoughts are negative, I redirect them and neutralize it or make it positive if I can.  Focus on loving you and take one day at a time with dating.

Ive read up a lot on dating when I was doing that a few yrs ago.  It is a time when you are enjoying meeting someone and to see if you want to get to know them better.  Then when you date, it is to develop a freindship to see if you want more with this person.

You ought to have expectations and boundaries in place.  I read that it is inapropriate to talk about moving in with someone the first year of dating.  Some people have a rule of how many dates (or some kind of other marker like, trust)  before sex enters into it. 

I did date online and I did talk to people (instant messange and e-mail) for a while before I would move on to wanting to talk to them over the phone.    Then I would develop a conenction from there.  Always if things seemed too leading or inapropriate, that gave me a solid answer.  Stay detached and not focused on the men.  I read that men want to chase, so I worked so hard not to ever think about my b/f when we were not together.  I would try to re-direct myself and stay busy focusing on what I wanted to do and my program and other interests.  
   Because before alanon, id obsessively think about my boyfriends and what they were doing, feeling and what was going on in thier lives, never minding and loving my own.  

Stay focused on you and your interesting self.  I wanted someone dynamic and open minded, fun.  Well, if I wanted to attract that, I had to become that.  A loving healthy person that stands up for what is right.  That is important to me, so I have to be true to myself.  Honest about it.

And dont be afraid to follow through on a boundary bc even if the relationship falls apart bc of it, then they probably werent your true freind anyway.  It is natural for those people to be weeded out with the "junk male" .  The good guys and people that are able to be a true and real freind (positive, supportive - even if that means the relationship ends - bc if that happens, who knows it might come back around and work out in the end).  That is how it worked for me, anyway lol. 

Remember in a relationship to stay focused on you and what is healthy for you and hopefully your partner is doing the same.  Loving me first and detaching with love from others ~ has been the greatest experience of my life.  I keep surrendering to stay connected. 

You are worth it and so much more.  TC and please be kind and gentle with you, sweetie.  Forgive you, let it all go and be peaceful and whole.  I heard a great quote, from Oprah bc she uses it all the time -- from Maya Angelou - "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

-- Edited by kitty on Friday 6th of August 2010 09:33:59 PM

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