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I have been trying really hard to work on me and my recovery. I have a sponsor, been going to F2F and chat meetings and coming here. I am still working on step one with my sponsor for about 5 months now. However, my head keeps telling me to get out of this marriage. Logic is saying walk away, you deserve better.
We have a 1 year old and everytime I sit in a F2F meeting and hear Adult Children, it just re-enforces my thoughts that I cannot live with an active AH or even one in recovery!
I asked my AH to move out in March and my house has been nice and inviting since then. Although when he comes around we have been friendly to each other and not discussed anything of real substance and I suspect he can't anyway....
I am struggling because of course he is telling me he is working on his sobriety and going to meetings etc. Yet, less than a month ago he came over drunk. Telling me he had a slip. I've been trying to stay out of his recovery, so I couldn't tell you anymore. All I know is that when i'm around him , it's still all about him (duh).
I guess the more I get educated about this disease the more it scares me for what I am in for if I stay in this marriage. (See I'm projecting!)
I am waiting for my HP to show me a sign to divorce or not. I am an independent woman with enough finances to keep the house and care for our son so it's not that that is holding me back.
I feel like it's my heart that is questioning, I do enjoy some of his good parts but the bad parts are what have hurt me so much.
I definately have a defect called lacking patience. It's just that this limbo state that I'm in really sucks. I could really use some ESH. thanks!
Hi Good. I just left my husband too. I need to practice what I preach but it's true: Keep Coming Back....if not for your AH or child, but for you, because these things are not simple....
Be brave though, is there such a thing as a perfect family out there?
My parents never drank, he did what he thought was right, but my dad was a workaholic (not realizing it), my mom had to deal with a violent and rebellious sister that was molested by an aunt's husband, my father worried too much on what his family thought which affected us with people pleasing, etc........and I thought I was normal until I married my AH.
Anyhow, Kudos to you as far as having a sponsor as well as going to the F2F :) You're doing well for you and your baby. - hugs
Edit: Jerry left me a great verse from the Dalai Lama's facebook page on patience...hope it helps .......here you go:
"It is not just a person's physical constitution, their intelligence, their education, or even their social conditioning that enables them to withstand hardship. Much more significant is their inner development. And while some may be able to survive through sheer willpower, the ones who suffer the least are those who have a high degree of patience and courage in the face of adversity."
-- Edited by RoseODAT on Friday 23rd of July 2010 01:14:15 PM
Hi, Good -- Remember there's no one definitive "right" answer. You seem to be tending towards leaving the marriage, and then questioning yourself about that. It seems to me that the biggest question here is the one people often recommend: "What's my motivation?" So maybe you might think about your real motivation for questioning leaving. I know my own motivations are hidden under layers of ideas about what I really should think, my fears, etc.
In my own experience, I had many reasons why I didn't leave my AH for years. At first I believed his assertions that he was now on a program of recovery, and I thought, "Why should I leave when he's finally sober, as I wanted?" Then when he began to relapse, I believed him when he said he was going to get right back into his program. Or maybe I just wanted to believe him so much that I didn't look hard at the evidence. As it went on, I just had so many fears that I might regret leaving, that I'd be alone forever and I couldn't handle aloneness, that I'd be a failure if the relationship didn't work out, that my life would be a disaster, that he'd get sober and I'd be sorry I'd left, and every other fear that a fearful brain can have. I was surprised, in my case, to find that when I actually did leave (and I was so scared that I nearly rethought it even when he was moving his things out) -- I was fine. In fact I felt so much relief! And I'm sure it's better for our little boy not to be around his dad's behavior.
But what is best for you only you can know. Some people stay with their A's and learn to detach and live healthily. Anyway, what I was trying to say is that maybe it's not whether you go or stay, but why you make the choices you do, that is the next thing to look at. Hugs to you.
Wow, there was a lot of insight in your post. Sounds like you have gained a tremendous amount of self-awareness since you began your recovery journey. You're aware of how you feel, have begun thinking and acting for yourself, and are even aware when you're projecting!! ;) All this is awesome!!
While I can't tell you what the right answer is, I can certainly pass along encouragement. You seem like you have really done a lot to help yourself in a short period. Be patient and gentle with yourself - no need to make a decision right this second. I think you'll know the right answer for you in time.
Oh, and I HATE the limbo thing, too. Since I got in the program, I've been better about not making decisions just so I can avoid being in limbo, but I used to be the worst! I would just pick an option - usually the first option I could think of - and jump in before I looked to make sure there was water in the pool. A good bit of the time, it would end up that there was no water and I would go *splat* on the bottom and be very sorry. A good friend told me when I separated from my now exAH and couldn't decide whether to get divorced or not that deciding not to make a decision WAS making a decision - which would free me up from feeling like I was in limbo. There, a decision had been made...and now I could get on with my life. It took a while for me to be able to actually believe what she said, but I kept repeating it to myself over and over and eventually it sunk in some.
I trust the answer will come to you in time and you will make the decision for whatever is right for you.
It took me years to figure out if I could remain married. After many years of marriage, we separated for about 5 years prior to the divorce- a necessity for myself and our daughter, who was not doing well with him at home. My hearts' desire was to try and work things out, but I didn't know how. I felt like I was living a double-life, as I went ahead and lived life mostly without my spouse. I learned to go to the movies alone, eat meals alone, etc. I went to a gym and developed hobbies... I was forever waiting for the time we could reunite.
He had his first round at rehab.
Finally, the debt was escalating so quickly and so astronomically, that it would not be long before losing the house as well as everything we ever saved for. I am not sure if he was active or "dry-drunk", but he did attend AA meetings. I pushed for the divorce, letting him know the reason and that I want to continue to have hope that we can reconcile. Sadly, to this day, he does not remember the conversation.
He went back into rehab, this time apparently, stating it was my pushing the divorce that did it. He says he cannot understand why I pushed for it when he was working his program.
We divorced and carried on the same as when we were separated. There were more discussions of wanting to spend more time together, but our daughter was very angry with him and was acting out and this created more challenges. My exHA did not understand this. He did not have a relationship with her and he could not reason or acknowledge that the teen years have these challenges. Instead, he apparently took this as my rejecting him.
He remarried within a year.
Today, I was feeling sentimental and remembering some very special and wonderful things my exHA has done for me among all the ugliness from the disease. I remember when my daughter and I were returning home, and, it had snowed an unusual 6 ft of snow. He shoveled a path from the street to the door and had dinner and red roses waiting for me. I was so touched. Remembering this brought tears to my eyes today.
But, he was not like this all the time or even most of it, as the disease progressed. During a conversation with him yesterday on the phone, there was a lag time and, for a split second, I hadn't realized he began to respond to my question. I stopped talking to listen; but, it was too late- he shouted in a nasty tone, "Are ya listening!!!" *sigh* I was hurt by his response, but I know and accept that the disease has taken a toll on him too.
While limbo stinks, you don't need to make a decision until you are ready. Not making a decision is making a decision... but, that can be just for today. I find that 'just for today' takes a lot of pressure off of me and I try and practice saying it a lot. ...just for today, it is ok that I cry that I can't retrieve and hold the loving moments with my exha that I cherish.
I have also given myself permission to love him as I accept and respect his new life path that does not include me.
I would like to believe that this is all a part of God's plan to bring us to the place he wants us.
Now, I need to work on loving myself- something that has been horribly neglected, as I beat myself up every time something didn't go well, or every time my exha was/is nasty to me.
Wishing you all the love and support in your decisions and journey.
Not long ago I was in limbo as well. I think it took about 3 years before I knew what was right for me. I rode the "limbo wave." It delivered me to the right place.
Be as patient as you can. In time, you will be shown your way.
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