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Fun how people react to things so much differantly, My Husband & I have been plannin a trip to go see a lady I Met on the net about 4 yrs ago I guess... I have never "Spoken" a word to this women, but we email/FB/Myspace that kinda stuff all the time.. Send Cards on Holidays & Birthdays & just became really good friends... So I am SUPER Excited about a chance to meet her ... She lives over 400 Miles away from me, and We am Takin our Harleys to go meet her & her Husband...
My Husband... Not so much.. It was HIS Idea to plan it, but now that the time is NOW, he is in COMPLETE "Overdrive"... Most know we run a Sm. Business from home, already lined up work for the employee's bills pay'd, checks wrote.. All T's Crossed & I's Dotted..I got My Dog Sitters, Cat Sitters,. So now... He is Inventing things to Drive himself Crazy about... I have Packed ALL Bags, Loaded them on the Bikes, Washed & Polished mine... (He changed the oil in mine) And he is runnin around inventin sh$t to do to add more to his plate... It is Driving me Up a Wall...
He does this EVERY time we plan Anything...Now Mind ya, Our trip we have NO reservations Anywhere, all we know is we are goin to see my Friend while we are in the neighborhood (1) Night... Thats the "Plan".And really the only plan.... And I'm OK with that... I like Winging it, I enjoy the road time, & the back roads and I could be out in the yard right now doin jumpin Jacks & back flips I'm so dang excited... So I Guess.. I am just Ticked... He isn't on Board... I mean is it a "Man" thing (No offense) I just really want to understand... I try to stay out of his path as not to add ripples to his already seemingly horrible day... I can't really do much more on the Prep work aside from maybe startin the engine & given him a push... But DANG!!!
Our Son is goin to Bible Camp 4 this week ... this is the (1st) Trip (more then 2 days) that he & I have had ALONE since our son was Born (he will be 13 in Aug) I just feel guilty gettin excited when he is acting like the sky is fallin... I mean I want him to be Excited too.. I know we have to leave "Home/Office" I know it takes alot of prep get'r done, (cause I have done most of it) & I know this business is our Lively hood, but it is not our Life!
I'm sorry for ramblin... I just want to understand what I'm missin here, I have try'd Squeezin it out of him but I just get more Mope'n.. More BS really... Because EVERY thing he is stressin about... IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL..And Most of iti is of Course "What If & Woulda, Coulda,Shoulda. CRAP"I mean Let go Let God... ya know...
I am Soooo Very grateful, I gave into my Fear Tues.. And Checked out Another F2F Meeting in my Area.. :) It was so nice to just go there & Beeeee... I havent been able to hit my regular ones, but knew with his upcoming "Anxity" I better get one in...And boy am I glad I did...Makes me excited to check it out again when I return...
I almost wish he had a piece of this program so maybe he could find peace as well, about learning how to let Go & let God... I'm truly sad for him, It hurts to watch him do this to himself just to get away for a week... Last time the 3 of us went, he didnt relax until day (3), and by then it was time to start headin home... I Am So grateful for this program to help me grow... N Know what Serenity within is, graditude with attitude :)
Thanks Guys for Listening I guess I just needed to Vent... I don't like to be stressed when I know I am leavin my boy for week.. I Just can't! Too Precious of Times we have...Wish he would see that...
Love & Prayers to all... Till I return :)
Jozie...
Keepin you all close to my Heart, & always in My Prayers :)
Trying to imagine Mr.Anxiety with his hands around your neck. hmmmm
From my experience,many moons ago...the AH did not like to be out of his comfort zone. Most I have known are so tunnel visioned. It is like they have to know where there drug can be had,or bought,and a place to do it.Even ones in recovery may feel this.
They may not even know what makes them so freaked out.
I gave up and never went anywhere anymore and learned to enjoy being home with him.
I hate to share this...gads,I pray you don't find you wish you would have left him home and strapped a dog on your bike.
Yikes , that was dejavue for me , we made plans for yrs only to have him do exactly what your husb is doing right now , then I learned about plan B , make your plans and if he starts acting out , go anyway , the next step will possibly be he will pick a big fight with you and end it or so he thinks ... trip is off .. As my husb progressed into his disease this happened all the time , then a woman a AA member told me that my husb could function only in his familiar enviorment , his workplace , his friends etc .. anxiety about how to hide how much he was drinking from others away from home is crucial for the alcoholic .. always need to be one step ahead . If you decide to do this trip alone u dont have to make excuses for your husb simply tell your friend he changed his mind but u decided to come anyway .. goodluck Oh and if its his first trip in sobriety , he is scared shitless , new people strange surounding etc . so compassion works here and of course alot of patience on your part .
Hi Jozie, my husband always defaults on our plans last minute, or makes so many stipulations before we go, So as in the past I used to be so anxious I possibly caused a bigger scene worrying so much and projecting the worse, so these days plan B is a blessing for us, and also once you get used to going alone a few times the dissapointment is replaced with relief, (((((((((((((((((SIGH))))))))))))))))))
Oh my gosh, I can SO relate to this. I love to travel and have always taken a trip in the summer (I was a teacher, so I had to limit traveling to summertime). My AH and I started traveling from the first year we were married and continued after the kids were born. We travel cheap; tents at the KOA, Seal-A-Meal for supper, sandwiches for lunch, going to all the free or 'cheap' attractions. Slowly as the years went by, he started having anxiety before and during the vacations. We would always have huge fights before hand, and he was just as you described, Jozie, going into 'complete overdrive'. Only he would leave the important things, like car maintenance, until the very last, hoping, I think to be able to cancel the trip when the car wasn't ready. I don't know how many times we've picked up our vehicle at the repair shop, loaded it up and taken off from there! One year when my 2 oldest were 9 and 5, he told me he wasn't going to be able to take a trip that summer, too much to do at work. So, I loaded them up and we went to Mammoth Cave by ourselves for a week. (MUCH to his surprise, I'm sure!). Another time when my kids were 13,9, and 4, he told me 3 days before we were scheduled to leave that he wasn't going to be able to go, thinking, I'm sure, that we would cancel the trip. NO WAY! I loaded them all up (Plus a 'stray' kid that was living with us at the time) and we took off for a week to Michigan's Upper Penninsula. My kids and I still remember these 2 trips as the best we ever took, I'm sure because my AH wasn't there to criticize and complain about every little thing. He obsessed about having car trouble, hated to stand in line for ANYthing, had a conniption every time we ran into road work, wanted to know exactly where we'd be and what we'd be doing every minute, and if we weren't right on schedule, he'd go into a rant. Vacationing with him became a dreaded chore and I really hated it for my kids sake. And what would REALLY piss me off was that, after making us all miserable for a week, we'd get home and he couldn't wait to tell everyone what a wonderful trip we'd taken, what a great time he'd had. Hmmmm, where was I when HE was having such a great time? Must have missed that part! However, he soon found that his behavior in that area could not control mine. Like I said, I would just take the kids and go, leaving him at home where he would spend the entire week worrying about us. I also take a 'girls' trip with my friends once every year and that has been wonderful! I LOVE traveling with people who can find fun in a detour, instead of making out like it's the end of the world! Abbyal is right, i always had my Plan B in place, and carried it out when he made that necessary. I really liked Lyndebi's and Abbyal's comments. At the time all this was going on, I didn't know my husband was an A, but it all makes so much sense now. He didn't want to leave his 'comfort zone'. He didn't want to spend a week with his family, knowing that he probably wouldn't be able to drink for those 7 days. I continue to marvel at the things I read on here, and how often they mirror the experiences I've had. (((((Jozie)))))), I hope you have a wonderful trip with or without him. And thanks so much for sharing, helps me to know I'm not crazy and I'm not alone!!! (sorry about the long post, I'm a rambler, too!!)
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"The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time."
It has been my experience, Jozie, that whenever we have planned some special event, he finds a way to cancel it or make what should be a fun occasion miserable.
He either starts drinking as soon as we reach our destination, cancels the trip altogether and leaves me to decide whether I really want to go by myself, or embarrasses me to tears. Last year we planned a big birthday dinner for me. He started drinking before the guests arrived, behaved in an obnoxious manner, and yes, he spoiled my celebration. One could say, "Don't let his drinking spoil things for you." Well, I have yet to get to the point of not allowing his unacceptable behavior to bring me down.
I am unwilling to give in, give up my life and hopes and dreams, and stay home with him when there are so many things I want to do, and places I want to see.
All of this tirade does have a point: I understand how you feel. I believe they are all the same Jozie. They just come in different packages.
I send you bet wishes,
Diva
Oh I nearly forgot the biggest insult of all...In April we had planned a wonderful trip for two weeks. Had all arrangements made here at home, flights, autos, and hotels booked. He decided to binge a few days before our departure. He left the house drunk, and did not return home until the afternoon of the day we were to leave. He said he thought I'd be gone. Looking back, I should have gone. Somewhere. ugh!
-- Edited by Diva on Saturday 26th of June 2010 09:26:19 AM
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"Speak your truth quietly and clearly..." Desiderata
Consider it your friend and your journey. If he backs out, consider going for you! This is something you really want to do. If, God forbid, this man wasn't here, would you do it? If so, then go for it. Leaving him behind won't change anything that you can control. I know these are only words but, it is your life as well, and you are valuable.