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I Have A Question


Guys

As i continue to grow and find a new confidence in myself in ways i never believed possible. Life is what i'm finally allowing it to be for me. I'm not overly confident. I'm very easy going, down to earth and i love to laugh and make others laugh too. People call me the likes of "crazygirl or nutjob" i'm renound for being who i am. Before al-anon i was basically a miserable bugger, sad, lonely and fearfull all the time. So, in finding the real girl inside i'm just happy being myself today.

I wrote a post a few weeks ago with regards to the recovering alcoholic who used to be in my life. I decided to take responsibility for my actions for the way we parted as friends. I made the effort to make amends to him. Anyways we got together for a chat, the first time we were face to face in two years. OMG, how do they manage it or is it just us. Within two seconds i was the girl i used to be again. Quiet, feeling like a child and once again i allowed his words to intimidate me. He talked and looked at me with this smirk on his face only i could describe as an "altered ego". We discussed the past two years and things that had been happening in our lives. I told him i had met someone and discovered what it felt like to be in love, that it didn't work out and he was with someone else now but we still remained close friends. {he informed me the guy was only using me for sex, he doesn't know him or anything about our friendship}. I told him i had been single and celibate since then  for the past year, allowing myself time just for me, to try and work out my emotions.

He then told me he had had been sleeping with other people and it had been briliant {with a smirk on his face of course} personally i didn't believe him. I told him i received offers of dates but continue to refused them as i known they are only about sex. He said to me "so were we, whats different", again with a smirk on his face. I said to him "the difference is i trusted you". Yes, at the time i "thought" i was in love with him and he did tell me he didn't want a relationship. In the end up that's why it ended, he admitted he was going to hurt me, he felt guilty and why he stopped it.

Omg, i try and build a bridge and i end up being made to feel exactly like he always made me feel. He wanted sex with me there and then and yes i had some old feelings for him too. But we never. He then went on to tell me it's all just a game. You text a girl and wait to see what comes back. This part has me confused. I know some people only want casual sex, and yes they do play these mind games. This is not what i do. He was making advances and once again he probably knew what buttons to push on me for the correct response to his game.

I feel anger over this, all i wanted was to say i was sorry, and i did tell him that i had ignored him and it hadn't been about him. He said to me "i didn't care that you ignored me".

Guys, am i missing something vital here. Is he still playing a game with me, can anyone see any signs of anyone in their own lives like this. I was an easy target the first time around he used to tell me he could snap his fingers and i would run, i didn't know how to be any different. And yes maybe there was just a small part of me this time that felt for him and that maybe we could build on something we once had together. I really am struggling on how to work this. As you all know, it's not easy.

So far i have walked away, but what or how do i act after the next text... I no longer go near men, as i have no trust whatsover in them. Only two men have i ever trusted. One is with a new partner and i've never interferred with that. The other one, oh lord i have no idea what he's doing.

Help....

Ally xx

Once again i turn to this board as the people in my life are so lucky never to have lived in this environment and don't understand my concerns.



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Ok so please don't take offense to this but WOW, your ex seems like a real JERK!!! If I were in that situation, I wouldn't ever want to be around someone like that. Seriously, if you have made the break, why go back to being belittled again? In my opinion, I would just ignore him. Block his phone numbers so I would never be tempted by a text or phone call ever again. Sounds to me like you are getting along wonderfully without him in your life. So keep up the excellent work and keep moving forward. But hey, that's just me.

Good Luck.

Sincerely,
QOD

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I'm thinking this guy is telling u the truth about who he really is and your not listening , how many times have u been there done that with this man ? 


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Ally,
My nutjob. I love you girlie.

It seems to me that you are having some doubts.

I remember a long time ago. My parents were looking at having a house built. They were going to need to borrow money from my grandparents for the down payment or something like that. I remember my grandfather saying something that if you have doubts about a big decission then maybe to do a pro and con list and see what is in the con list. If it is major stuff then maybe it isn't the right choice.

I can tell you that for ME (and I can only speak for me) I have had a lot of revelations since my spilt with my hub. I can tell you that there are now things on my con list when it comes to my relatonship with him that I know I will never go back there. I may want to, I may remember the good times, but I can't ignore the cons.

You make your choice girlie. You are a smart woman who knows what is best for her. I am just going to love you no matter what.

Your crazygirl,
Mandy

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QOD thank you.


Abbyl, i've not been there for two years because i stayed away because i listened. I know what he doesn't want. He also knows what i want in my life so why does he continue to bait me back for something i don't want. Maybe it's not me who needs to listen.

Mandy

Love you too kiddo, and i am really trying, some days i feel like i'm stuck on crossroads and no matter what i do i can't find the right way.

Ally xx



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Aloha Ally...That share sounded to me like me finding a tool I miss placed a while back
and picking it up again wondering if it would still work for me.  You still wondering if you
can get something you couldn't get to work for you to work for you?...What the heck did
I just say?   Are you relapsing in your thinking?  Maybe it didn't get sooo bad and you
still have some room left for more?  For me if I really don't wanna play the game
anymore I don't go to where the players are.   Treat yourself better. (((((hugs))))) smile

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Ally I am confused.

I read at the end you had some thought about maybe you guys could have what you once had.

BUT you just told us the last time, you thought you loved him, but he told you he was not in love, just wanted sex, and knew he would hurt you.

So in adding this together, you guys never had anything ever.

Hon  you can be the most beautiful lady in and out, love purly, have trust for the object of your affection. But the guy honestly does not care about anything but HIS satisfaction.

They KNOW when they are using people. But if the person allows it, they feel it is ok.

Reading again, maybe you are the same. Nothing wrong with that. And he is too, still the cold B he always was.

I guess I would ask myself what is going on with me to even want any contact with someone like this?

You are doing great weighing things and looking at them! To me that is progress.

love,debilyn



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Deb

I've spent the whole night crying my eyes out in frustration and fear of why i'm feeling things with regards to this person. Even when i think back to the cruel words he used on me i could never see he was indeed using me. I didn't want to see it, i wanted to feel i was loved and i'm so not alone in thinking that in al-anon.

My gut was telling me to make amends to this person, i don't know maybe i never had closure, maybe i needed to see him for the person he really is. I've saw that now. He keeps up to date with my life from others he knows i'm a much stronger person than i was two years ago. Yet he can still play, in his words "the game" of getting me back into bed. At the end of the day should i fall for that, he walks away and i'm back at a place i never wish to be again. It didn't work this time, i stayed out of his bed.

 

I'm beating my confusion a bit at a time and i know i won't ever be normal as far as my emotions are concerned. But i have managed to differentiate between someone caring for me and someone using me. I don't use people, far from it, and yes i allowed him to use me because i didn't know any better at the time. TODAY i do, no i wont allow him to use me again. I don't deserve it, i would rather remain on my own and happy, than be with a user and miserable...



I'm thirty eight years old and every day is a new day for me and i look forward to it, the challenges it may bring me, and how i will overcome them. Alcoholism is an absolute curse to both the addict and the families. I may not live with an active alcoholic today and i'm blessed not to do so. But i do know i'm still suffering the effects of being raised in it. People may read my posts and feel confused, its even more confusing trying to write them, but i do, because i know that someone will always identify with me and i can find the wisdom that i need to keep me on my journey.


Thank you

Ally xx



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Sometimes this is a blessing in disguise.  Thank goodness he didn't hide his jerkiness and fool you and get you sucked in, and then reveal who he really is.  It's hard to face that someone we have some fond memories of isn't the person we had hoped, but that's how we protect ourselves.  The truth is that there are both healthy people and unhealthy people in the world.  But we have the power to notice our reactions and protect ourselves from the unhealthy people.  The more I started learning about emotional health, the more I'd think, "How can that person be like that?  Doesn't he notice how negative/manipulative/abrasive/etc. he is?"  But of course it's harder to notice one's own problems, so he doesn't; and when you don't even know what it's like to be a healthier person, you go on living your life in the same old unhealthy way.  And most people are very sure of the rightness of their actions.  So they are where they are.  But my new healthy practice is to resist merging with them and being drawn into the same old games.  I keep remembering the saying, "Recovery isn't winning; it's not playing."  It's harder when the person is someone you've known in the olden days.  That's why a good distance -- emotional and geographical -- is a help.  I think you've made great strides in noticing how he makes you feel.  That's something that took me years to start paying attention to, and I still fail all too often.

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