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last night was the worst.


this is my first thread on this site, and i decided to join this site for all the reasons you did, i suppose.
last month i married a brilliant man. he is funny, smart, tender and caring. he is also an alcoholic.
a year ago, i battled my own addiction of perscription drugs. i didnt join NA but i did go to a group that engaged behavioral therapy. DBT. even in that group i was using. so i decided to go as far away as i could from every supplier i had and i stayed with family who thought i was suffering from the worst flu ever. i became sober and still am today. it was hard. but i am proud to say i did it.

i then met my husband shortly after that. we were smitten from the start. i knew about his drinking, and in the beginning i even enjoyed the occasional drink. this past month though, he hasnt been able to get work, and it makes him feel powerless. so he drinks a few times a week and each time he drinks to black out and pass out. its not a fun thing for him anymore, its an escape. he signs out and i am left in this reality by myself until he wakes up. it makes me feel abandoned in those hours, like its ok for him to escape, but i have to stay here and deal with everything until he comes back, and even then when he awakens, his wanting of his next escape is always on his mind.

he stopped breathing one night due to vomiting in his sleep. i have never been so scared in my life. luckily i stay awake for a few hours to watch him and make sure that doesnt happen, but it did. i hit him in the chest, slapped his face, yelled at him to wake up and he did and he got his airway clear and began breathing again and passed out again. i stayed up all night just watching him breath.

last week he went out of town to do business, he promised not to buy beer. he was only supposed to be gone for 4-5 hours. he came home at around 10 pm, the smell of beer heavy on him. he said he drank with a friend and then waited to sober up before coming home. one thing i am thankful for is he never drives under the influence, but the smell stays for hours whether he is drunk or not, and if he got pulled over for anything that would have been it. it hurt me that he lied to me.

last night he had a few beers, and then decided, in his drunken stuper, to steal tequila from my parents cabinet. they've had that same bottle in there for 15 years, they dont drink, it was a gift and they kept it around for medicinal purposes...whatever that would be...he stole the bottle, drank alot of it and stuffed it in the back of my car. he promised me he wouldnt get into their cabinet and he broke that promise. then he lied to me about drinking it at all.

this was the first time he ever betrayed me in this manner and i was livid. i calmly let him pass out, watched over him as he slept, and this morning i told him i couldnt do it anymore. i told him that if he wanted help, i would fight along side him every step of the way. but if he decided that his drinking was something he didnt want to conquer, then i would have to leave because i was suffering beyond anything i ever could have imagined. after a huge fight full of excuses and angry hurtful words from his end, i told him that i loved him. i married him for the person he is. not the addiction. he claimed i didnt love him if i wanted him to change, that i knew he drank when i married him. i said, yes, i knew he drank. but i didnt fall in loe with his drinking, i fell in love with him. i told him i didnt want him to change his personality, his mind, or his soul, i wanted him to get better because he was sick and slowly killing himself. after all this, i sat on the bed with him and held him. we cried and finally he agreed that i was right. we needed to fight this so we can grow as a loving couple. i told him i will go to every meeting if he wanted me to. i even mentioned it could help me, even though i havent used, i could learn skills to make sure i will never use again.

he is scared and so am i. he may mess up and drink again, but that wont be a reason for me leaving him, as long as he never stops trying. this is alot for a newly wed couple to go through right off the bat. but if we can get through this, we can get through anything. and right now, at this very second, we are on the same page. and...it feels wonderful!  just to have that hope. its..great. and even though this will be one hell of a fight, we are doing it for us. for him. what better reason than for love, right?

so i would like to know how everyones experience was in the very beginning. what obsticles did you face at first, and what blessings. i want to get a good idea of what kind of stress triggers may befall us, so we can attack them head on.

im thankful for this site. while my husband has AA, i need this. i need a support system to help me through MY struggle. i never want to make his recovery all about me, so thats why i think seperating our types of support groups will be good.

anyway...yeah thats me. my name is dawna, im 27 years old and i am the luckiest woman alive to have this man as my husband. i do not judge him by his illness. we all get sick some way or another. and i will be his warrior and his comforter. thats a wifes job after all. =)

thanks for any advice and your stories. i love you guys, even though i dont know you, because we are all going through it together.

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May I kindly suggest a meeting, and get your hands on a conference approved booklet: 'Alcoholism: the Merry Go Round"

peace :)

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I feel for you Dawna, I am exactly your age, married 3 years, and am going through the same thing with my husband. The lies are hardest for me, but now when I find him in a lie, I have to tell myself over and over It's the disease, It's the disease, It's the disease. It's not him. Also the broken promises are heartbreaking. When I used to try reasoning with him, he'd seem to hear reason, apologize for everything, admit he was out of control and promise to stop or cut down, or not drink on a certain day. I'd be elated, thinking I was finally getting through and I'd always believe what he promised. But he'd do the opposite of what he promised, and I started to see the pattern. Now I don't take his promises seriously. It's like the conversations never happened, his actions do not ever match his words. He has not found AA yet, and I don't know if he ever will. We are in marriage counselling right now, trying to work on the myriad of other problems, but his drinking is a battle I cannot fight. So I do not talk to him about it anymore, and I have to detach from it and focus on me.

I wish you luck. Alanon meetings have helped me immensely - if you can get to one I would really recommend it. {{hugs}}

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Hi Dawn,

Thanks for sharing your experience and welcome to alanon and MIP.  Here is where you will find help for yourself.
 
Alcoholism is a disease over which we are powerless. When we  come to realize and accept that :

We did not cause this disease, we cannot control this disease, and we cannot cure it,  we then know the very best we can do is find help for ourselves.  


  Help with finding local meetings near where you live may be found at the following web site:            http://www.al-anon.alateen.org/meetings/meeting.html            Or call: 1-888-4alanon

Online meetings are held in the Al-Anon chat room associated with this site.

From the board click on Al-Anon Group Meeting/Chat Room in the yellow box in upper left of the page.  After clicking on the link please be patient, sometimes it takes a while for the window to open.

Please keep coming back



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My experience is that once awoken, the craving for alcohol has a life of its own.  Anything can be a trigger, from the death of a friend to the newspaper not being delivered.  I think this is because the real trigger comes from inside the drinker, and external things just reinforce it.

I know that feeling of finally being relieved that the drinker and I were on the same page.  I don't want to be discouraging, but the motivation for me was much stronger than the motivation for him.  All I got from his drinking was lies and abandonment.  He got escape, pleasure, relief, and a way to disguise what a wreck his life was becoming.  The number of times he went back to drinking without telling me, I cannot describe.  Of course he didn't tell me, because I would have been upset and disappointed, and because alcoholism and lying go hand-in-hand.

As I've said before, when I finally found out that the rate of recovery from alcoholics who go to AA is something like 15%, I realized that I couldn't stand life going on like that, and I got out.  The rate of recovery from people who don't join a program is worse. 

The only one we can change is ourselves.  Please get to some meetings.  It sounds as if NA might be useful for you too.  Your recovery is going to be challenged by the chaos that is heading your way.  Please take care of yourself.  You deserve a peaceful, joyous life.

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Dawna - I know e-x-a-c-t-l-y what you are going through! I am also new here and reading these messages makes me realize that everyone else knows what you are going through too - the acceptance and support here is so overwhelming! I think both you and I might find it helpful to remember that living without hope is hopeless but we have to see ourselves as the ultimate hope for living. Take care

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I would really really recommend you get the book Getting them Sober.  I believe thqat is a very valuable resource.

Maresie.

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thank you so much everyone for your uplifting words and helpful references. i will join the group tonight on chat because one thing has me puzzled.

i am hearing alot about how POWERLESS we are. although i understand that we have no control over the A we have control over us, and how we react emotionally. our power resides in ourselves...at least thats what NA taught me. i can be supportive and i can help where and when i can, of course that doesnt mean that things are going to go the way i want them to go, but it is in my power to realize the common harmful thinking patterns that are involved in being a loved one of an A, and in realizing those thought patterns, i have the power to not be defeated.

i dunno. perhaps i am off base with saying this, and it may not hold true to anyone else, but it holds true to me. i cant control the people around me, nor do i want to. but i can control my emotional patterns and be forgiving and loving and firm and strong, whether it makes a difference in the As life or not, its my way of not feeling powerless.

lol oh dear, i fear i am going on and on. ill just bring this up in group and see exactly how off base i am.

i am so thankful for you guys! stay strong and remember, its a great life if you dont weaken! =D

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dawna81 wrote:

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i dunno. perhaps i am off base with saying this, and it may not hold true to anyone else, but it holds true to me. i cant control the people around me, nor do i want to. but i can control my emotional patterns and be forgiving and loving and firm and strong, whether it makes a difference in the As life or not, its my way of not feeling powerless.

Hi Dawn

I agree, you do have a firm grasp on the principles of recovery. 
We are not powerless over ourselves and our emotional responses.
Living with alcoholism many of us developed survival tools that seemed to work for a time.  The tools I developed were like the ones you described above. 

I too thought that  being loving and forgiving and firm and strong and "controlling" my feeling was the way to go. 

The problem for me was that my "real" feelings were not acknowledged by me and dealt with. They remained within to poison all my future interactions. 

Alanon was the only place that gave me the tools to find  and  deal honestly with with my anger, sadness, guilt and fear.   I did not have to cover it up or deny it.  I could own it and respond with healthy tools and not destructive tools.  I truly believe this is one of the greatest gifts of the alanon program

Thanks for sharing



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thanks for letting me know that. i am pretty honest with my feelings and i do believe that my emotions are valid, no matter what the emotion because i am feeling them. there is a reason that i feel them and its the reason that i concentrate on. then i go from there. is there anything i can do about the reason?  what changes can i make within my self to create proper thinking patterns the next time the reason occures? its just nice to know im not totally alone in thinking this way. =)

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I would highly recommend reading everything you can on detachment. Detachment will give you the best control over your emotions if you are living around an alcoholic.

Maresie.

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maresie wrote:

I would highly recommend reading everything you can on detachment. Detachment will give you the best control over your emotions if you are living around an alcoholic.

Maresie.




yeah, ive done all that, it was actually a relief when i got all that down. i find it pretty easy to separate the husband from the alcoholic, and the emotions each one gives me. my brain is like a filing cabinet, all the A stuff goes on one side, all the husband stuff goes on another. i dont find much difficulty in this, personally, but i do understand how some can. i have a disorder that files logic in a different way than most people, and the detachment part comes easy because of it. the hard part actually, is feeling something strongly. lol but thats a different story entirely.

 



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