The material presented
here is not Al-Anon Conference Approved Literature. It is a method
to exchange
information, ideas, feelings, problems and solutions on a personal
level.
I would like to know why the number of men at each alanon meeting has been declining?. When I came in 1987 to the meetings they were two or three men per meeting. Going to assembly usually about 20 men in 1988. In 2009, 22 years laters only 0 or 1 man per meeting and at assembly only 4 or 5 men.
Can anyone explain this phenomenan in Australia alone?
Has Alanon become an exclusive woman group? I actually don't feel veru confortable there with all these women.
I went to about four AA meeting and I was surprised to see a 50/50% ratio of men and women.
As problems in society increase, people have less time for "self help" and spend more time just making ends meet.
Also, men are much less likely to seek any help for any problems, both professionally and in a "self help" format.
I think that general attendance at alanon meetings has declined in general, that has been my observation, with many local meetings actually closing due to non attendance.
Perhaps men have come to the meetings, seen that there are few men, and then did not want to come. They may have felt they were not well understood by the women and did not have the patience to wait to see if other men would come.
I have found that men and women alanoners are very different, since by nature, men and women are so different. Despite any marriage or family problems, most men must continue to work and so have more opportunity to develop social support networks than many women do, who may be trapped at home with young children while married to an alcoholic.
Most men, since they continue to stay employed the majority of the time, are not "trapped" in alcoholic marriage, and have many more options to leave the unhealthy environment. Men have the tendency to live more in the moment, and are not classically very good at self reflection, once they leave the alcoholic relationship, fewer men than women would see the need for continual "support" in alanon. Women feel trapped much more often, and so seek comfort and support in alanon in their uhappy family arrangement.
Alanon originally was designed for women in a time when divorce was not socially acceptable, it helped them learn to cope with being stuck in a marriage to an alcoholic when they had few options, if any. I think that even though Alanon invites all, its philosophy is based in general on the needs of women. For example, "shares", most women feel very comfortable talking about feelings openly, most men don't.
Personally, I can say that I have beneffited IMMENSELY from the men I have known in the program. I had never before heard men speak so eloquantly and fully about their feelings, it was very eye opening.
This post is simply sharing my personal observations based on my background in sociology and psychology. I am not an expert, and don't purport to be, so take what you like and leave the rest .
-- Edited by canadianguy on Wednesday 2nd of September 2009 11:58:13 AM
Here in the East Texas Area, I find the ratio to be almost 50/50 at most of the meetings I attend....sometimes we men even outnumber the woman and there are a few "Men's meetings"! Now at assembly, hmm...well probably 25-30% men.
Maybe those Australian men are all out on walkabout!
I think it is different, in every area.... One of my favourite experiences, that I used to take in when I was travelling to Vancouver, was an "all-men" Al-Anon meeting on Wednesday nights - what an amazing scene it was - to see over twenty men come together, share honest feelings, share tears, hold hands at the end, etc., etc... it helped ME break down some of my own stereotypes and preconceived notions of how "men" do things, etc....
Tom
__________________
"He is either gonna drink, or he won't.... what are YOU gonna do?"
"What you think of me is none of my business"
"If you knew the answer to what you are worrying about, would it REALLY change anything?"
In Missouri Al-anon (Midwestern US) my meetings typically have only 1 or 2 males per meeting. It seems that it has always been that way in the 17 years I have been going. So I don't think it is just an "Australia" thing.
Overcome
__________________
I can Overcome all things through my HP who strengthens me.
Tom, what a great picture you painted about the men's group. I think that's so fantastic - especially how safe everyone felt to even share tears. Even as a woman, I fight tooth and nail to not cry, even when I know I'm in a safe place at an Al-Anon meeting (something I'm slowly working to stop resisting). That's amazing that can happen for men. Gives me warm fuzzies just thinking about that kind of love and friendship. :)
Aloha Mia...Very co-incidental post. Me, men, feelings and co-founding a Men's stag Al-Anon meeting was just a part of my share on tonight's topic on Grief from the C2C 9/2 page. When I first got here it was nothing but women...very few men and it was the women who eventually raised me, LOL. I've got nothing but gratitude for how HP had it come along for me. We gots lots of guys who attend on the East Side of the Big Island now and do all the program stuff as suggested without our mommies pointing and wagging their finger or looking over our shoulders. LOL2 I don't know about Austrailia at all so that's simple. Thanks for how it all worked out for this grateful member of the World-wide fellowship of the Al-Anon Family Groups. ((((((((((hugs))))))))))