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Fear He won't love me now that he's sober...


Can anyone please help me understand why I'm afraid my newly sober (23 days in rehab) AH, who is coming home on Thursday won't love me now that he's sober? I know it's irrational thinking. I know I should live today and not worry about tomorrow. But I realized driving home from visiting him today that he's really serious about living life sober. He has expressed so much love and he has written me many poems already telling me how grateful he is for me. I shouldn't feel this way, but I do.

Any helpful thoughts of how to help myself get beyond this unhealthy fear?

TIA for any help.

CajunsCheri



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I  have to admit that even tho I had been in this program for 3 yrs already , when my husb sobered up that also crossed my mind , my own insecurities , I am so grateful I had been in al anon  , because i was able to dismiss them quickly with the help of my friends in program , drunk or sober I cannot make anyone love me so what was the point in worrying about it .  Please if your not already get in to Al-Anon for me it is the best way to support our husb , meet new people who u nderstand your fears and will  help u come to terms with them . In your own program u will be busy looking at yourself not what your husb is or isn't doing . By changing your atttitude we can make a difference . The alcoholic is not the only one who has to change we both do , we simply cannot do what we have always done it jsut won't work . with both of  you in a program working on yourselves , u have a chance . sobriety isnot the answer toall of lifes problems but it sure helps . goodluck to you both , find Al-Anon for yourself and leave him to God and AA .

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Welcome to this forum.  This is a wonderful place to get support, as along with this active board, we have a chat room (24/7 chat) & 2 daily meetings in there.  It is great to go to the chat room to connect with others who know what you've been through, can understand & relate.

I can tell you how I have worked on my fear.  We have an acronym for FEAR - future events arent real.  As long as I am gazing into the future, imaging the worst, I can not be truly living in/for today.  Expecting, what iffing, it all is made up stuff & not reality.  So I soothed myself with logic, reminding myself of what I just wrote. 
   I also could not just stop doing something - it is by far easier to replace one behavior with another.  When I would wander off into worrying about the future, I would pull my attention back to me, focusing on me & my own issues & being grateful for whatever it is I can be, now. 

Manifest destiny - means we create our experiences.  If I dont want fearful experiences, I can simply shoose to focus on what I want... so instead of being fearful, one day I chose to stop looking at fear & living in it, I got into "now" instead of wasting my energy feeding negativity (fear, anxiety) into the future.  Be grateful & work on experiencing that for a few days, and see if you dont start feeling it more easily & your fears naturally go away.  Find something positive to focus on that can & will empower you.

Get to f2f mtgs & get the pamphlets & try to share.  Sharing is how we begin to heal.  I encourage you to try our program, it is really works, when you apply it to your life.  Focus on YOU,  you cannot help your AH heal but you can change you.

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STOP the negative thoughts!!! ez takes time but we can do it.

When you get that thought say STOP! He loves me!!

we as women tend to put ourselves down in our head.

I am a strong built like a brick potty house lady. few extra pounds,middle aged, not young and beautiful anymore. BUT I stopped the stupid negative thinking and now LOVE the me that HP gave me.

I KNOW my AH loved me and still loves me. YOU know your guy loves you!

It is not him that is making you feel this way, it is you. He chose YOU. Believe me, he will love you MORE when he is sober and "on a program of recovery!"


Hey I love you so there.  debilyn

-- Edited by debilyn on Monday 25th of May 2009 10:39:46 AM

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You are not alone. Many of us have been exactly where you are right now. I remember thinking after my AH got out of rehab--if he doesn't need me to DO for him anymore, will he still love me?? Looking back, I now see that there are so many things wrong with that question, but I didn't see it then--I have come to realize that I was just as sick, if not sicker, than my AH after living with the disease for so many years.

If you haven't already, I would recommend that in addition to Al-Anon literature that you read the chapters in the AA Big Book "To Wives" and "To the Family Afterward." They provide alot of insight into what is going on with you and what is going on with him in these early days of sobriety. There is also a great Al-Anon book that I highly recommend, "Living with Sobriety." That book really saved me after my AH came home after rehab and was stark raving sober.

I can tell you, from my experience, that it took my AH 6 months or so before he started really feeling emotions. Then, he had to work on identifying and dealing with them instead of just numbing them with alcohol. I thought that if he got sober everything would be wonderful--he'd be the husband I had always wanted. That isn't how recovery works. Recovery takes alot of work, it is alot of baby steps, and sometimes it is one step forward and two steps back.
He will have alot to do to recovery from the disease--physically, emotionally, spritually.

I realized early on that if I decided to stay with my sober AH that I would have to be in it for the long haul. He is now 4 years sober and each year I see new behaviors and more empathy, but he will never be the mythical Prince Charming that I read about in romance novels and watched in chick flicks.

Recovery has done a great thing for me--I have been forced to grow up and to learn how to live in reality instead of fantasy and denial. To reexamine my beliefs of what love is, what it looks like...to let go of childlish romantic ideals. That's not to say that sometimes I don't wish he would burst through the door and profess his undying love on one knee, I do. But, I have come to appeciate that the other, more mundane aspects of life and love are really not easy for my AH--they do not come naturally for him, for alot of reasons. So, now I appreciate that he calls me at least once a day to "check in." That he is where he says he will be when he says he will be there. That he follows through with a committment no matter how tired he is. That he usually remembers to ask me how my day was. The little stuff. But as he recovers, there is more and more little stuff and it is a miracle.

And, Al-Anon has enabled me to do all that. The program forces me to take the focus of of my AH and to put the focus squarely on the one person I can control--myself. I urge you to try it. This is the time for you to work on you--you have been affected by the disease just as he has and you need to recover too.

The truth is that he may love you, he may not. YOU may love him, YOU may not. And it may take awhile for you both to figure that out--that's why both AA and Al-Anon encourage newcomers to NOT make any major decisions in the first year of recovery. We are still reacting during those early days, instead of acting and our emotions swing from one end of the spectrum to the other in a nanosecond it seems!!

So, give yourself time and try not to take anything the A says or does personally. A's (even sober sometimes) are rooted in fear, guilt and shame. Try to have compassion. Try to give him the room he needs to deal with the aftermath of his disease, in his own time. You keep the focus on YOU. Do what you need to do for YOU. Get to some face to face Al-Anon meetings, find a sponsor, work the Steps yourself, do some service work. I promise that you won't regret it!!

Hang in there and be gentle with yourself. This is a scary time for you. And, that's okay!!

Yours in Recovery,

SLS

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Welcome!

The most important lesson in my experience, is to recognize that my HP loves me. That is all that matters.

It is codependent thinking to worry what others are thinking of us. Does he love you? Today he does. Will you be okay if tomorrow he doesn't?

This program teaches me to be okay with what is. That is a miracle. Before al-anon, I desperately felt my life depended on my husband and his love for me. In a very real sense, I had made him my HP.

By practicing this program, all of my relationships have improved. This program is more valuable than a gold mine. So glad you are here to share in it.

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Thank you all for some great responses. I have been going to Al Anon. My first meeting was actually an open AA meeting because I hadn't been able to get the coveted list of Al Anon meetings yet. All have been very helpful so far and I'm doing my daily reading in One Day At a Time.

I am also in counseling - have been for 9 months. Working on me. It's harder to look at yourself and your issues, especially when the other person is making such progress. I almost feel like he'll pass me by. But, you are all right. That is okay. I can't control or worry about the what if's.

My AH was already so kind and loving even while drinking, that now it's a bit overwhelming he's sober and even more empathetic. He always asks first about me now. He wants me to come to his 30 day chip AA meeting and occassionally go. I think it's healthy he wants me involved but doesn't want me to take responsibility for him and his recovery.

Being co-dependent, I am still just beginning to start healing and growing. I know it's a long road and patience is not one of my strengths. But I appreciate knowing from you here that I am not alone and that thinking can be changed.

Thank you all for your advice and input.

CajunsCheri

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Your doin all the right things , take care of you .   try going to page on July 14th in the daily reader One day at a time .  for me it's all there laid out like a map my part in disease , what to do what not to do . this works wether drinking or n ot . in fact I believe that page alone has improved all of my relationships when I do what it says to the best of my ability
I read that page every day for 6 months til i was actually working it .every paragraph in that little book has a solution , I just had to find it , then i had to work it .  reading it was just not enough , that took me awhile to understand . thus the saying , am I talkin the talk or am I walkin the walk ?  an old timmer in our g roup always reminds us about-- EASY  DOES IT !! BUT THEN SHE ADDS - BUT DO IT !!

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((((CC))))

In this program they tell us to focus on ourselves and our recovery. It is hard not to ask that question. But it is revealing in that it shows how tied we are to the addiction. Or should I say the disease wants us to feel that insecurity. Can you say the serentiy prayer over and over until it becomes clear?

In support,
Nancy

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glad lee wrote:

Welcome!

The most important lesson in my experience, is to recognize that my HP loves me. That is all that matters.
It is codependent thinking to worry what others are thinking of us. Does he love you? Today he does. Will you be okay if tomorrow he doesn't?
This program teaches me to be okay with what is. That is a miracle. Before al-anon, I desperately felt my life depended on my husband and his love for me. In a very real sense, I had made him my HP.
By practicing this program, all of my relationships have improved. This program is more valuable than a gold mine. So glad you are here to share in it.



Oh man I soo agree with this....yea, others were my HP until I found my REAL HP in this program....I still maybe "over care" how my loved ones feel about me, but if I am truly right in my boundary or decision, I can get over it....my Creator is my HP...and Yea, I have lost folks I dearly loved because of needing to set boundaries they kept breaking....I cried over some of them, but I survived....All I got is ME, God and this program when it all hits the fan.....I am OK with what comes my way...i may not like it but "I shall overcome with HP and the program and ME"......I am way healthier and way better with others thanks to this program...Please keep coming back....This stuff works.....and yes...this program is my saving grace...It had to come from God because its the other one thing I take with me when I die....ME and my program.....

 



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I have had huge abandonment issues most of my life. I can relate. Leaving the ex A was for me very very difficult.  The ex A who I was with knew exactly what to say to hook me back in.

For early sobriety there are often huge expectations. The less expectations you have the better.  Of course it is very very difficult to be around somene in early sobriety.  Many people are on a pink cloud and they do fall off in time.  You are in the right place being here.

Maresie.

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Recovery changes the nature of a relationship - there's no way around that.  But that doesn't necessarily mean the end of it.

I think the classic expectation is that the alcoholic was a wonderful person before his or her disease got the better of them, and that in recovery they'll go back to being that wonderful person and the relationship will return to its honeymoon days.  But that makes a lot of assumptions - starting with the notion that there ever *was* a honeymoon.

When I saw the part in step 2, about "return us to sanity", my thought was how can I return to some place I've never been to?  And if I'm going there for the first time, how will I know when I've arrived?

Alcoholism strains a relationship to the breaking point and beyond.  Recovery is a new process - there is no going back.  For the recovering alcoholic AND alanon, it's all forward progress.  Uncharted territory.  It's just impossible to say what course the relationship will take.

When I got sober, I really thought my then-wife would applaud me and support me 100%.  The shocker for me was that she didn't really think I was an alcoholic, because I hadn't gotten as bad ("yet") as the other A's in her life (previous husband, mother).  Rather than supporting my recovery, she kicked herself for "doing it again", and hated me for saying I was an alcoholic.  Needless to say, I was stunned by this.  It took a long, long time for me to really take to heart that this was all her problem, not mine.  And why I know that often we alanoners are sicker than the alcoholic, and all by ourselves can pass the disease along - even in the absence of an active A.

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Cheri -

Sounds like you are making some healthy moves.   If you can get to 3 or 4 Alanon meetings per week it will be most helpful.

A question:  Is your counselor trained in the issues of Aism and trained to treat the families of Aism?  This is hugely important.  

Sending you blessings and cyber (((hugs)))

Mrs. Grat and her cat


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My counselor is trained in Aism and treating families with it. She actually is the most wonderful counselor. I am so blessed to have found her!

My husband is coming home Wednesday. He is going to another counselor in the same office and is looking forward to having a counselor.

I am at peace now with however things go. I actually had my first breakthrough a few days ago with Al-Anon actually sinking in and meaning enough to make my thoughts and feelings change. That was AMAZING!

Afterward, I was reading my Bible, and scriptures I had read my whole life had taken on a whole new meaning. It was incredible. I have seen so many miracles lately. I am feeling more whole and peaceful than I have in my entire life. I thank God and Al-Anon for that!

CajunsCheri

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I have abandonment issues too...They go WAY back when I was left to my own devices with all the abuse...

Now, with my HP, I realize that I and my HP are there for me 24/7...I cannot really be alone if I am filled with my HP...Love of self...and if I really feel lonely, I go to the animal shelters and visit w/the animals....

but yea, abandonment...."is he/she gonna be my friend tomorrow, next week, next year???"   USELESS thinking....Coz noone knows.....All I know is I have TODAY and yea, people can sober up and change...Usually for the better....

I got emotionally sober and I am better...Better for all around me...So why not your husband???? IF the unlikely should happen and relationship changes and you do split...Its painful, but useless to try and control/fight....It is also not fatal...painful?? Heck yes!!! I have been abandoned many times by folks I really cared for, but if they were *really* "mine"...Wouldn't they still be there....

whats that saying...."if it is meant to be it will be with me...If it is not meant to be, It will flee"....or words to that affect....i just try to go with the flow and do my best with the cards I am dealt

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