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This program really works!


So hubby is now into week 4 of trying to live a new life without alcohol.  He started off really great after detox (going to AA 2 times a week, repeating the slogans etc..).  I was encouraged, but kept in the back of my mind "Hope for the best, plan for the worst".  So this weekend he decides to do to a friends cottage to help them with some work, which is a MAJOR trigger for him...  cottage=beer.  I detached and told him to have a good time.  Old me would have lectured him about not drinking, not going and tried to control the situation.   He came home on Saturday and I just asked if he had a good time.  Old me would have asked if he drank at all.  New me dropped the subject, knowing that there would have been no right answer.  If he said no, I probably wouldn't have believed him and if he said yes, I would be angry.  Working the program, I felt great, no drama, no fights...just calm serene me!

Well on Sunday, by accident, I found a receipt on the floor by the door and glanced at it to make sure it was nothing important on it before I threw it out.  Of course, there were 2 6 packs on it, confirmation of my suspicions.  Damn...  there goes my serenity..  I'm dissapointed (but only a bit, because I had low expectations to start with)..   Old me would have marched right up to him and shown him the evidence and started a fight.  New me said to myself " so he's drinking, what am I going to do for me?"  I hunkered down and made sure I enjoyed my Mother's day with my kids.  I didn't bring it up.  What would it change?  It would only start a fight and ruin my day.  Serenity regained!

Quick question on supporting his recovery...  So he has had a slip..  So far from what I can tell, he's still mostly on track..  How can I encourage him to keep it up and hop off that slippery slope?  Or can I at all?  I know he has to want this for himself, but is there anything I can do to help him along so that one slip doesn't turn into a full blown derailment?  He seemed a bit down yesterday, I think the guilt was getting to him.. Or do I just detach and leave him to his HP?  Any wisdom much appreciated!

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As a double winner the fact that he was going to AA meetings 2x a week was a red flag to begin with. I haven't met any alcholic who is successful with their program who only goes 2x a week.
I also don't believe in the idea of triggers. The book of alcholics anonymous states over and over again that protecting the alcholic from themselvs creates a sense that everyone else is responsible for the alcholic but them. Your husband chose to go to the cottage after all.
As for your question, technically speaking, it isn't your business how he behaves. That doesn't mean it doesn't effect your life and doesn't influence your well being. Absolutely it does. His actions toward you also effect how your well being will come about and its stability. Having said that, depending on his sobriety to determine your serenity is a ticking time bomb: one of my first ACOA friends was famous for her saying "Pigeons do what pigeons do, sit under their tree and they'll shit on you." Alcholics drink, and expecting them not to is insane. Working your program allows you to control elements of your life that you actually can, since so much of it isn't in your control. I would really suggest that you get a sponsor, get a home group and work the steps.
Your husband may believe that you believe that he isn't drinking again. At a certain time, he will find himself in a position that he can no longer run from his lies, and he will crash and burn (hopefully). In the mean time, I would recommend that you give pause to the reality that as long as you're waiting on him, you're going to be waiting for a very long time.

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Hi Missy,
Good for you-using your program and regaining your serenity.  In answer to your question about supporting his recovery- I would suggest keep taking care of yourself.  Continue to go to meetings, Focus on yourself, Live One Day At a time and pray.  I know how very difficult this road is but with alanon tools you will be able to maintain your serenity and learn how to Respond to his actions in a constructive way.

You are doing good.

Keep comimng back

-- Edited by hotrod on Monday 11th of May 2009 10:39:29 AM

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Hello Missy , how can u support him ?  I believe u just did by simply minding your own business and not confronting him with the reciept u found. In our program we keep the focus on our selves not what he is or is not doing. well done.
You are not respnsible for keeping him sober any more than u were responsible for his drinking as for the guilt he seemed to be feeing , leave it with him where it belongs he will either drink or not the choice is his . We learn here to stay off thier back and outta thier face .  I  hope u are attending Al-Anon meetings f2f for yourself that for me is the best way to support our A efforts at sobreity , u need support from people who understand , this board is great but in my opinion no substitute for real meetings .your missing so much by not attending f2f meetings , so if your not all ready attending please find meetings for yourself .  Louise



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Good for you, it sounds like you are doing a great job working the program. Unfortunately I can't give you any advice, since I'm new to this myself. I just want to say that I admire what you have done so far - you are an inspiration to me.

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(((((Missy)))))


Good For You clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif Minding your Own Business

I know that took some much strength... That is one that I struggle with as well... I do great taking care of them and slack off on ME... Al-anon has been slowly teaching me a better way of life, and it is a great feeling when you can look at yourself in the mirror, and know that YOU are just as Important as them, and it is high time You care for yourself :)

As for his Needs... Well... I see Your Needs, to me would be to like above... Get to a F2F meeting, meet people who are going thru the same thing you are, face to face is were its at... It is one hour of you time, and it can bring such love to your heart...

Hang in there girl... Your Doing Great...
Keep Coming Back...It Works If You Work it :)

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Oh wow I would REREAD "tiger's" post...

I totally concur...I would get into meets (You) as much as I can...12 steps workbooks/books as many as I can find....Glom onto a sponsor OR a trusted recovery pal and WORK IT FOR YOU....

Let HIM crash and burn if he must OR get into recovery SERIOUS not 2x per week and work it....If he messes himself up?? Let him wallow in it....

I would keep my hands OFF him and ON me........whats that saying??? "Focus on YOU..I lose ME"....So keeping the focus on ME by default keeps me OFF other's business....Yea, it impacts your life and that is part of the "package" of staying with an Alkie...However you can make it work ONLY if you stay OFF him and ON you.......You did good here...You just "let the crap go".....Thats what you gotta do....AND   ****NO EXPECTATIONS***   NONE!!!!

Good job


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Good for you for not reacting.  I find it better, with my daughter, if I do not react or respond to her behavior.

However, I do agree that he may not be giving as much effort as he should.  He should be going to his meetings more than twice a week.  Are you going to face to fact meetings of Al-Anon?

Remember; you did not cause it; you cannot control it and mostly you cannot cure it. 


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Aloha MPoo...

For me Abbyal said it all.  That is what I was told when I first got "into" program;
along with the best way to help your alcoholic wife is "not try to" help your
alcoholic wife.   I didn't know what I was doing.  I didn't know anything really
about alcoholism or how to help an alcoholic even if I could recognize one if I
did see one.   "Keep yourself out of her program or recovery or no recovery is
what made all the sense in the world later on."  Get into your own.

Al-Anon face to face meetings as many as I could get to in the first 90 days
before I accepted if Al-Anon would work for me or if I was interested in doing
it myself.  Literature...lots of it and read it all.  Memorize the steps, Traditions,
slogans and the Serenity Prayer and look for an old timer to help me.   Some of
those old timers are really scarey....right Abby?  LOL

(((((hugs))))) smile

-- Edited by Jerry F on Tuesday 12th of May 2009 12:19:59 AM

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