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Post Info TOPIC: Need Help On Step 4


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Need Help On Step 4


I don't know how to even start . We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. confuse How did you do it ? Please HELP !

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This is where a sponsor comes riding in to your life or a spiritual guide you can
trust or the like.   An experienced program sponsor can guide you thru how they
did it.   Also Al-Anon has literature namely "Blueprint for Progress" that is a
4th step inventory book that lots of members here have used and like.  Some of
the gals here have had 4th step special meetings and went thru the booklet.

One of the best 4ths I did started on learning the definitions of Searching...
Fearless...and then Moral and then applying those assets to my attempt at
locate and identify my assets and liabilities in character.   I spent time looking
and didn't hold back on what I found...didn't let fear, shame or guilt stop me
from listing the defect and listed what I knew about me that was morally good
and morally bad.

If you're going to face to face meetings ask some of the old timers to help  you
with it.  If  you are not going to face to face meetings...go and look for the
old timers and then follow thru.

(((((hugs))))) smile

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Jerry I do go to FtF meeting. Thanks for that idea.
I'm just afarid to ask someone to be my sponser it just feels weird.
Yeah 47 yrs old and feel insecure to ask.
Thanks Jerry. Your a great inspiration to us all.

-- Edited by peacewithin on Sunday 10th of May 2009 03:27:20 AM

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I have done the steps many times but let me get this out of the way & in the open, in over 20 years, I've never worked with a sponsor.  It is suggested that you have a sponsor (program mentor) to work with so the steps & the process is easier with another guiding you through it.  This stuff isn't easy, we need someone else who has been there.

I was told to do each step carefully, thoughtfully and absolutely thoroughly b4 moving on to the next step.  You should feel like you have exhausted every aspect of each step before proceeding.  I've heard of some taking a year for each step. 
    The first ttime I went through my steps, I could not think of one positive attribute I had, I was so consumed with & focused on negativity.

It is an inventory, an itemized list of all of your traits.  Be specific, be honest.  Take your time in thinking of this.  Be sure to identify your positive traits too.

You say you dont know how to start -- do some prayer & meditation work, ask for guidance from HP to work the step.  Honesty is the most crucial thing & for me simply not rushing but exhasuting the step was key for me.

Each time I have done this step, a lot of things are repeatted but I usually always find sime new traits.  Once you work through all the steps, you will find that you will continue to work them, you can work them all simultaneously.  But that is ahead of you - this is now & this is all you ought to focus on.  One step at a time, literally.

Many years later in the program, I realized that not all negative traits are bad. Sometimes it may really help you, you just never know, it's very interesting.  I'm trying to say, dont feel bad or condemn yourself for negative traits -- there is a purpose & a reason for everything.

My best suggestion, is take your sweet time & be brutally honest.  Fully exhaust the work on the step.

Also, reach out & consider a few people for your sponsor.  Keep an open mind.  In the past a lot of people that truly aggrivated me initially, are some of the ones I've learned the most from.  I would use prayer & ask HP for guidance with this too.  Sometimes the answers are a subtle nudging but hp always helps when we ask.

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Yeah, definately get a sponsor, and start the steps over. Until you have a firm grounding in the first 3 steps you really don't get the full relief of step 4 or the full perspective of it. A sponsor also helps you just all around. Sponsors save lives--they keep us from killing ourselves and making ourselves anything less than loveable

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I too would highly recommend getting a sponsor to work with.

Al-Anon's "Blueprint for Progress" is certainly a great tool.

There are other methods as well.

The one I found worked the best for me, and the one I recommend to those I sponsor actually comes from AA and is a series of questions which cover the different "eras" of a person's life, childhood, adolescence, etc.

Here is a link to one version of that:
http://www.network12.com/four/4thstep.htm

It basically prompts you to write out your life story.  It worked miracles on me.  Some of the questions didn't apply (those dealing with alcohol/drinking) since I don't have that problem, but I found sometimes even those triggered things in me.

Anyway, many different methods out there.  Getting a guide (sponsor) to help is essential. 

Don't be shy.  No safer people to ask for help than program people.  Some might say no, but only because they feel they are not ready to sponsor, or they already are carrying a full load.  But keep searching til you find one. 

Have a great day!

David

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I am like Kitty....NO sponser now...Had one but got abandoned (sickness I think...she never told me but I heard from others she just got tired)

anyway, what I did was get a "worksheet" on step 4 and just go down the list answering the ????S....Like a ledgar sheet.....assets....liabilities......who am i angry at??? why??? what was my part in the disagreement????

who am i resentful at???? why??? what was my part in creating this emotions

fear...what am i scared about??? where does it come from??? now or in the past??? and when "located"....what does the past have to do w/now???

on and on and on the list goes though the 1st the good traits and negative traits...

then..the more difficult part the EMOTIONS.....and ALL the people involved in those emotions and what was my part, IF ANY, in these emotions re: this person and that person, et al......

It sounds bad, but I loved step 4.....It was like being introduced to ME!!!! And ya know??? I found a Lot of GOOD stuff too.....

you can go on line and get worksheets.....David Burney, I think and AA workbooks....They are there...I just typed 12 steps workbooks or something...

also on amazon.com you can get REAL cheap,  12 steps for adult children and 12 steps to self parenting and shoot off from there....Melodie beattie has a 12 steps for codapendents too that is a good start off.......on line i got some awesome worksheets....and also there is a 12 steps - a spiritual journey if you are christian.....they are out there.....and i didn' even have a sponsor at the time, but a good friend and we kinda were "recovery mates"  OR a co-sponsor where you BOTH help each other........doing it alone is not the most recommended, but if you don't have anyone??? HP is there to help....and like I said above, I am sponsorless now and i am OK with the boards, meets and my "homework" re: the steps...

PEACE

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Thanks Rosie, David Kitty Tiger and Jerry. I started in this program with al-akid, Al- ATeen Then Al-anon.  Its been a long time doing the steps again but it feels so good to go through them again. I quit for a while thinking IM DONE BUT YOU ARE NEVER DONE . I need this program forever to stay mentaly healthy.

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If you're ACoA, like I am ~ once I got the book, 12 Steps for Adult Children Al-Anon made a lot more sense & I was able to naviagte through my concoluded feelings using that book.  It also ask questions & prompts for working each step.

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